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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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BurnNote said:
Why different languages? It's enough trouble to understand your own code six months later, much less some else's. And I imagine copypasting works, until it suddenly doesn't anymore (so no great change there either).

If we instituted corporal punishment every time an error is produced, people would be a lot more careful in their code review.
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The shame of angrily looking for a dumb unforced asinine error only to realize you yourself caused it a year ago by `git commit -m "Quick fix, will improve later"` is more than enough of a punishment. :V
 
veekie said:
It means that the dwarf experts who could make it happen won't make it. Kragg is going to want at least a generational study before he considers it sensible to do outside an emergency
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So a lifetime study on a wizard would be an essential part of the testing process. We should immediately jump on that opportunity and-
BoneyM said:
As a rule of thumb, physical effects are fine, mental effects are not. There's some evidence that mental runes might be able to apply to non-Dwarves, but that has a sample size of a single event and there's a huge amount of variables that would need locking down before you should feel at all comfortable entrusting Mathlide's brainmeats to it.
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-Find a Perpetual to volunteer for that, and maybe apply for v3.21 in thirty or forty years or so.
 
ctulhuslp said:
And right now, Mathilde is making a documentation for that language. Torwalds have mercy on our souls.
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Nah, she's not trying to figure out Skaven magic, just their language, so it's ok.

Johann, however, was trying to understand one of their applications (the ratling gun), and now it's clear why it took so long.

Really, the analogy is pretty good. It's based around an "ingenious hack", which does show the creator had a deep knowledge and a certain type of smarts to solve the issue, but it also means something went very very wrong to even get to that point and it's inevitably going to fail at the most inconvenient moment. And several other moments, to keep you on your toes.

It reminds me of that one adventure game puzzle where you're trying to disguise yourself as someone so you use duct tape to create a mustache from cat hairs, glue it to your face with maple sirup, and then scribble a mustache in the ID, because the target doesn't have a mustache. I'm not sure if that's more Skaven Cunning or Ork Kunning, but it's something.
 
MooseHowl said:
Trig wasn't really something Mathilde was expected to learn, either. They should have Magisters who know it or could learn it with ease; the Matrix was probably just too inflexible to adapt to other Winds.
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fictionfan said:
Which is a real crying shame. If it worked for the bright college they would be able to create choir out of any crowd of people given some time.
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Maybe make it a collaborative project with some other wizards once we are using windeherder more.
It was originally Dhar, and maybe the problem is that the other wizards haven't seen the original. So we should look at Ghyran, Ghur, and Hysh translations of the spell?
 
guyfromtheplace1 said:
Maybe make it a collaborative project with some other wizards once we are using windeherder more.
It was originally Dhar, and maybe the problem is that the other wizards haven't seen the original. So we should look at Ghyran, Ghur, and Hysh translations of the spell?
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Ghyran, Ghur and Hysh have the best utility (as they have the best buffs and can heal), but of those three, we only have access to one, with Panoramia, and I doubt she's interested, given her current project.
This is something that will probably have to wait until we have a proper research institute (providing that happens).
What would benefit the Empire the most is Healing of Hysh (which is probably less restricted than Earth blood, being moderately complex). Having commanders get a second chance during battles would be very useful.
With Amber magic, form of the soaring raven would be very interesting to play around with. In theory, it could be used for infiltrators as an exit strategy. Unfortunately i think it's unlikely to happen, due to the temperament of the Amber college. It's unlikely that we can get someone to willingly support infiltrators full time :(.
 
*cries over the neglect for OS/2*

More seriously, I don't think the We = Linux analogy works completely, since the QM says that if the K8P We hivemind meets a different We hivemind, there's no way they can exchange knowledge.
 
@Exmorri

" Slann write in Assembler: the raw power of the universe at your fingertips, but it takes ages to read through it trying to understand the Great Plan, and a typo can easily mess up everything instead of just being a syntax error."

So... do the Old Ones write in binary or do they arrange atoms in such a way that the program is the physical structure itself? Atomic scale mechanical computers?
 
Preparing myself for the theoretical situation where like we've set up THE GRAND LIBRARY, purchased Head Librarian Goodboy an entire network of Move tokens so he can fetch books from anywhere in the place, and then we forgot we didn't teach him how to read. :V

Just gonna get a social action that's like

[ ] Wolf is having a nervous breakdown under the pressure of his recent promotion, maybe go see what the hell is up with that.
 
Flex actions upcoming- I'd like to support our local wizards, I think. Panoramia needs help polishing for magister, we promised Adel that we'd write a paper on skaven lighting with her, and honestly Gretel might be a really good choice to take up to Sylvania some time to see the dead and the battle magic.
 
Johann should be the top of the list for supporting, considering he's blind.

The others are fully capable of looking after themselves. They don't need their hand holding. Johann may literally do.

Talking of Johann, we know that Rune smiths can push the Winds out of a material, so maybe we can get one of Thorek's apprentices to do that to his eyes. I also think the dwarven regeneration runes exist, and that runecraft doesn't seem to conflict with Wind magic that badly, so after extracting the excess Chamon, he may be able to borrow one.

Of course, there's also the option of trying to help him hone his Magesight while he's blinded.

I also suggested some potential ways of improving the ritual if he wants to try it again soon.

In terms of other actions, we should really try to make a start on managing Mathilde's arcane marks. I'd quite like to get Gazul's Lore as well, but I know that's controversial.
 
Alratan said:
Talking of Johann, we know that Rune smiths can push the Winds out of a material, so maybe we can get one of Thorek's apprentices to do that to his eyes. I also think the dwarven regeneration runes exist, and that runecraft doesn't seem to conflict with Wind magic that badly, so after extracting the excess Chamon, he may be able to borrow one.
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Johann already has a known and high odds way to heal himself:
Do the same ritual again!

There is no need for us to muck about.
 
Alratan said:
Talking of Johann, we know that Rune smiths can push the Winds out of a material, so maybe we can get one of Thorek's apprentices to do that to his eyes. I also think the dwarven regeneration runes exist, and that runecraft doesn't seem to conflict with Wind magic that badly, so after extracting the excess Chamon, he may be able to borrow one.
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Johann is currently planning on repeating the ritual to fix his sight, and doing that sort of thing would mess that up.
 
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