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Taal,, or Ulric if you ask his cultists, is king of the gods. Sigmar, to my recollection, has never been described as head of the pantheon, just as the having the most temporally powerful cult.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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I don't believe so. They have a vortex of soul force inside their soul that converts the Winds of Magic into Dhar if they either haven't been fed or choose to do it to produce Dhar to cast spells with, but that's different.
Being warped by using magic is specifically a human problem. It's not an issue for elves or vampires, that have stronger minds.
There is even a strong divide between the Northen gods, Taal, Rhya, Manann, Ulric and sort of Sigmar and the
Southern Gods: Morr, Verena, Myrmidia, Shallya, Ranald.
it could be argued that Sigmar and Ranald are not even in the same pantheon, let along have Sigmar as Ranalds boss.
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If this is true, Ranald suckered his divinity away from vampires... possibly weakening Nagash, their actual god! I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite crack theory in the Warhammer fandom.
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Technically, he sucked his divinity away from the god whose cult was engineered into existence by vampires.
But was in fact being held up by humans as well.
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Just saw this. And. I. Just. U wat m8?
Where the hel are you getting that idea?
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I have no idea, but it keeps showing up on this forum so I assume a popular quest.
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HUMANITY IS WEAAAAAAK!
SHED YOUR PATHETIC MORTAL FLESH AND ASCENNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDD!
PUMP YOUR SOUL FULL OF MAGICAL WARP STUFF TO EXPAND YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS AND TRANSCEND BEYOND WHAT IS REAL!
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I mean, I'm all for transhumanism. If I ended up in the Warhammer World I would try to become a vampire myself. I just don't see any textual evidence that the Lahmian's created the cult of Shallya directly. Take advantage of it certainly but even then most Lahmian vampires that we actually meet in the novels are noble women, merchants or madames. I can't think of a single case of a Shallyan actually being a Lahmian, or any other vampire for that matter, in the rpg, wargame or novels just rumurs. It is more likely a reference by the authors to the rumurs about nuns and priestesses that misogynists have been making since forever.
Yeah... aside from Ranald most of the Southern Dieties are pansy elf divinies with a different name! (Joke)
But yeah their is a bit of a North/South divide... though I will note that as Ulric demonstraights their are gradients within those areas.
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I dont know why the first time i read this i imagined some luxurious smoke curls hanging from his face instead of mere wisps.
Poor Regimand, i hope he managed to grow a proper smoke beard since then.
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Its primarilly from the liber necris, a journal by manfred von carstein but theres supporting dribs and drabs throughout the lore of whfb. Only the liber necris makes the claim outright though. Which is hardly surprising given the nature of the claim and the fact that few to none others would be in a position to know one way or another.
Lahmians hiding behind shallyan cults is a pretty common theme/occurance in wf.
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Isn't the south where all the elven ruins are at?
IF remember right a lot of them were their.
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I was doing some re-reading and I wanted to make a pitch-
Willhelme was the underappreciated hero of the Purge and to a lesser extent the Drakenholf campaign. Consider:
This is her, running the logistics train for an army of tens of thousands across terrain like the haunted hills for years now. She made the Hunter Count a reality- and was substantially more useful than Mathilde with the exception of the smackdown on the singing King. And she paid in stress, hard.
And her she is establishing Ableheim's legacy by carrying his diplomatic olive branch to the moot. He is clever enough to bring the halflings in by implicitly setting a victory for silvania here against eventual renewed attempts at annexation in the event of a defeat. But it still needs to be sold- although it it's helped by the ask for food over other assistance.
And she knocks it out of the park! Not only did but twice as many bodies as even Anton brought back!
In short Willhelme deserves way more credit as a hero and a patriot than she gets in thread. I think she has been unfairly tainted by the discourse around the EIC...
Sidenote- we were still in the mood of trying to reach out and establish better relationships with the sigmarites here, having just advocated in council to bring in the Grand Theoganist, and he turned us down flat. So as a follow-up, we tried again, even against the advice of our mentor:
Other old business!
I guess I don't understand how, in an art associated with long rituals of extreme precision and exactly replicated creation processes you could switch the same rune from one style of charging to another? It would almost have to be a different rune somehow.
(It would also mean that creating a power flow to the runes would require altering the matrix in K-a-K each time something new was created, which means that it has been tinkered with most recently when the younger holds were founded?
And it would mean no hold gets founded without K-a-K say so, because without approval their shelter rune wouldn't work...)
Unless scale IS the only variable and larger runes get larger effects, but have to be charged from external sources. In which case, either every rune can be oversized and we could get some awesome use out of putting, say, armor runes on ironclads fed by vitae, OR it is only the runes of the dwarf gods and goddesses that can benefit from being oversized.
In support the second case, we've seen Vallaya's and Gahzul's runes built at scale; are there any other runes in canon that are oversized?
Thank you for the appreciation of it! And I'm sure they would understand, they were young once too.
Willhelme was the underappreciated hero of the Purge and to a lesser extent the Drakenholf campaign. Consider:
This is her, running the logistics train for an army of tens of thousands across terrain like the haunted hills for years now. She made the Hunter Count a reality- and was substantially more useful than Mathilde with the exception of the smackdown on the singing King. And she paid in stress, hard.
And her she is establishing Ableheim's legacy by carrying his diplomatic olive branch to the moot. He is clever enough to bring the halflings in by implicitly setting a victory for silvania here against eventual renewed attempts at annexation in the event of a defeat. But it still needs to be sold- although it it's helped by the ask for food over other assistance.
And she knocks it out of the park! Not only did but twice as many bodies as even Anton brought back!
In short Willhelme deserves way more credit as a hero and a patriot than she gets in thread. I think she has been unfairly tainted by the discourse around the EIC...
Sidenote- we were still in the mood of trying to reach out and establish better relationships with the sigmarites here, having just advocated in council to bring in the Grand Theoganist, and he turned us down flat. So as a follow-up, we tried again, even against the advice of our mentor:
Other old business!
I guess I don't understand how, in an art associated with long rituals of extreme precision and exactly replicated creation processes you could switch the same rune from one style of charging to another? It would almost have to be a different rune somehow.
(It would also mean that creating a power flow to the runes would require altering the matrix in K-a-K each time something new was created, which means that it has been tinkered with most recently when the younger holds were founded?
And it would mean no hold gets founded without K-a-K say so, because without approval their shelter rune wouldn't work...)
Unless scale IS the only variable and larger runes get larger effects, but have to be charged from external sources. In which case, either every rune can be oversized and we could get some awesome use out of putting, say, armor runes on ironclads fed by vitae, OR it is only the runes of the dwarf gods and goddesses that can benefit from being oversized.
In support the second case, we've seen Vallaya's and Gahzul's runes built at scale; are there any other runes in canon that are oversized?
Thank you for the appreciation of it! And I'm sure they would understand, they were young once too.
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One can be a hero and a greedy git simultaneously.
The problem with Wilhelmina is that her loyalty was exclusively tied to Abelhelm Van Hal. His daughter might have been able to earn that loyalty but blew it. So all Wilhelmina has left is self-interest and distant friends.
Ruthless economic leveraging on behalf of a nation is far more easily accepted than on behalf of a privet corporation. Were she still a Steward we would be egging her on, not dangling a noose between her and exploitative profits.
The Celestial College? No they weren't. They foresaw old age and decided to get a head-start on it.
Omegahugger
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Just because you are the king doesn't mean you're the one who actually holds the power. I thought Ranald would've told you that?
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Again, we don't actually know what she did. What little we're given is so unclear and ambiguous that it's honestly impossible to argue whether or not she did anything wrong.
The first step towards moral judgment is knowing the circumstances, actions, and results of those involved. We know so little about the second, and virtually nothing about the third.
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Do we have an plans to do any enchanting? We have some skill in it, but it feels like any time we might try enchanting it makes more sense to spend favor to get someone better at item creation to do it. Because even if we are good at enchanting we are better at getting favor and everything we might enchant an item to do we can just cast the spell for.
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We are very quickly getting to the point where our enchantments would better fit us if we made them our self. A great example of this would be a staff. Sure we could get a completely run of the mill staff if we found someone willing to do it. But I don't want a run of the mill staff I want a staff that exceeds most matrixs. To do that we need skill in enchantment. There is also people that want to continue the idea of mega projects like the Eye of Gazul. Sure we could fork over huge huge amounts of favor for those but it would be favor cheaper and we would better control over the project if we did it our self.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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How is a staff we make ourself better?
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Magically and universally speaking no, but personally all Homura did was stage an intervention, she believed Madoka was unhappy with divinity and forced her on a vacation
Admittedly, mind controlling everyone may not have been the best idea, and it may have other consequences, but those may be innate to the Law of Cycles moving handlers rather than maliciousness.
Anyway, is there some Madoka discussion forum this could be moved to? This isn't the place, but I can't find anything at least on my phone.
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To my recollection to have someone make a staff we need a turner. Something that the grey order lacks right now. So we can get it faster right now if we make it our self. Then because it is more attuned to our magic than a tuner would be able to do we can add more bells and whistles. At least that is what I remember from the previous conversations about making a staff.
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What is a turner, and why would the Grey College have only one at a time, let alone leave the possibility of having none at all because the last guy retired or died? Especially when it's for something that is very useful for the entire College?