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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Ganurath said:
Rorkak Hunkisson hadn't actually read the scroll he'd given to the zhufokruli, although he understood the general contents of it. The Loremaster had an obligation to the human equivalent of a Guild for zhufokral, the Colleges of Magic, to lecture on how to use human magic to best disrupt the magic of the grobzhufi. A respectable task, at least as far as matters involving magic were concerned. Unfortunately, with the Red Fang refusing to relent in their siege of the West Gate, Thane Weber couldn't be spared from manning the Sword of Gazul as a contingency against the West Gate being breached. So, after discussing the matter with King Belegar, Rorkak and his crew had been sent with a handwritten letter from the Loremaster to explain the situation, and work out a way to balance her conflicting obligations.

More than once on the flight over, Rorkak tried and failed to imagine the umgi with the bright orange mohawk traditional of Slayers.

Thankfully, the zhufokruli who seemed to be in charge of the College that the Loremaster herself was tied to seemed a reasonable sort. He'd taken the time to read over the letter, which was rather extensive, then folded it shut and looked out toward the nearby animal cage in thought. Rorkak, despite being more impulsive than the average dwarf (as was typical among gyrocopter pilots,) was still dwarf enough at heart that he could wait for the manling to process the weight of the Loremaster's dilemma. Hopefully-

"Yours was the only gyrocopter to come on this trip, right?"

Rorkak blinked, momentarily baffled at the question, but he simply nodded. Why would he expect more than one to come?

"Magister Weber didn't fully appreciate how popular the lecture would be, then." At those words, Rorkak couldn't help but worry for the future of Thane Weber. The zhufokruli either didn't notice or didn't care, though. "Must assume more of us are hunting vampires than actually are. That, or she never appreciated the sheer size of all eight Colleges. You've been tasked with returning with my reply?"

"That I have. Would this lecture involving Colleges other than your own mean you need to talk to others, first?" Rorkak disliked lingering in a place so thick with magic, especially when there were so many greenskins back at Karak Eight Peaks that needed to be killed.

"Yes, but I think I already have a solution in mind to run by them. From what I've seen of some of Weber's previous writing, she may not have intended for the invitation to be taken literally, but I've always preferred hands-on demonstrations to lectures. There's only so much information that can be gained without personal experience, after all. I'm pretty sure there's at least one Choirmaster among those who'd wanted to attend who'd be able to fit a mobile pocket on your airship..."

Rorkak blinked, but before he could ask the zhufokrali to clarify he'd already vanished from sight, taking Thane Weber's letter with him.
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Oh, yes please. Give us the chance to demonstrate all our nonsense up front!
 
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Cap'nSmurfy said:
Mathilde is never going to be able to convince anyone she had nothing to do with all their enemies spontaneously deciding to kill each other, is she? :lol:
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She didn't intend to set it all in motion... but she very much was working on having the situation be one where all of K8P's enemies were fighting each other, rather than the Dwarves. Sure, it wasn't her first priority, but it was on the list when considering issues. So the actual initiator of things going hot was unintentional, but the situation that led to that... that was very much so, as far as the Skaven were concerned. Granted, the trolls heading into Karag Rhyn and eating the greenskins was pretty much purely luck.

This whole seven-way FFA? About 2/3 luck, but knowing how to take advantage of it was a big thing, too. Fortunately, Belegar is likely to believe Mathilde when she says "I really didn't mean for this to happen, especially not now..."

Heh. Panoramia and the Halflings will be happy with all the new fertilizer.
IronFist said:
And suddenly k8p becomes the second venue of the Stirland battle wizard soirees
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Well, the Battle Wizards are probably still busy in Sylvania, but if they decided to take a junket to K8P... Oh dear. They would drive the dwarves insane with their weirdness.
 
Ganurath said:
"Magister Weber didn't fully appreciate how popular the lecture would be, then."
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I'm fully expecting it to be something like this. That Waaghbane trait we put to paper was a +9, 3 of those from Tactically Groundbreaking.
That lecture is going to have enough wizards shoulder to shoulder to level Sylvania several times over.
 
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Asheram said:
I'm fully expecting it to be something like this. That Waaghbane trait we put to paper was a +9, 3 of those from Tactically Groundbreaking.
That lecture is going to have more wizards shoulder to shoulder to level Sylvania several times over.
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"The lecture hall is entirely full," said Magister Brown, ironically a Gold, but dressed to suit his name. "We've had to bring in some additional seating. Don't mind the Ambers leaning on the walls, they disagree with the idea of chairs."

"Is that... safe?" you ask, glancing through the door. Yep, wizards packed in from wall to wall. The butterflies in your stomach redouble their flapping. And this was only the first lecture scheduled?

"Oh, the room is well grounded," he added airily. "Well equipped for even the most enthusiastic lecturer. The only larger space available is the Amber college, which is mostly open field, and we could hardly..."

But you've already tuned him out.

"That's it!" you exclaim, starting to feel better already. "FIELD TRIP! Which way to the nearest Waaagh?"
 
So I've decided to come up with a rough estimate of favor we will get for the battle. I don't know how much each item is worth, but here is a rough list of what we have done so far:

Personally lead battles:
Under-Citadel, Under-Caldera, Trench

Commanded/oversaw:
Defense of Karagril and Citadel.
Taking of Kvinn-Wyr and Rhyn
Taking of Under-Karagril
Partial taking of Zilfin

Other:
Negotiations with Ice Dragon
 
Abhorsen said:
So I've decided to come up with a rough estimate of favor we will get for the battle. I don't know how much each item is worth, but here is a rough list of what we have done so far:

Personally lead battles:
Under-Citadel, Under-Caldera, Trench

Commanded/oversaw:
Defense of Karagril and Citadel.
Taking of Kvinn-Wyr and Rhyn
Taking of Under-Karagril
Partial taking of Zilfin

Other:
Negotiations with Ice Dragon
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It is a possibility to add recovery of Golden Age runecraft to the list, since it was mentioned some time back by the QM Mathilde would get favor for the golem.
 
Reliable_2IC said:
I'd add recovery of Golden Age runecraft to list, since it was mentioned some time back by the QM Mathilde would get favor for the golem.
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I'm pretty sure they said the opposite:
BoneyM said:
It was on the Karak's radar already as the Mhonar mystery and it didn't really take any effort or ability on Mathilde's part to find, since it follows anyone it believes to be a civilian around like a lost puppy. She didn't really recover it directly, she 'just' lead the military efforts that allowed it to be found, and will 'only' receive the rep for that.
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Abhorsen said:
So I've decided to come up with a rough estimate of favor we will get for the battle. I don't know how much each item is worth, but here is a rough list of what we have done so far:

Personally lead battles:
Under-Citadel, Under-Caldera, Trench

Commanded/oversaw:
Defense of Karagril and Citadel.
Taking of Kvinn-Wyr and Rhyn
Taking of Under-Karagril
Partial taking of Zilfin

Other:
Negotiations with Ice Dragon
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See, I don't think so. Mat didn't do all that as Mat. She did it as Loremaster of K8Ps, and Thane of K8P. IE it was both expected and a duty for her. Some favor might be generated, but this is one of those "Are you doing it as Mathilde Weber, Magister of the Grey Colledge, or as Mathilde Weber, Lormaster of Karag Eight Peaks?"

I think what we will get is reputation with the dwarves (like already spent favor), far more than favor.

After all, the main reason multiple dwarven armies, inculding a damn dwarven king, took orders from us, is because we are Loremaster. So don't expect too much favor. Do expect lots of "Huh. Guess she earned that Thane title" as well as respect and reputation.

It's like having a job. You're already being paid to deal with it. If something comes up, extraordinary, you'll get a bonus, but it won't be as much as they'd pay a freelancer to solve the problem.
 
primemountain said:
See, I don't think so. Mat didn't do all that as Mat. She did it as Loremaster of K8Ps, and Thane of K8P. IE it was both expected and a duty for her. Some favor might be generated, but this is one of those "Are you doing it as Mathilde Weber, Magister of the Grey Colledge, or as Mathilde Weber, Lormaster of Karag Eight Peaks?"

I think what we will get is reputation with the dwarves (like already spent favor), far more than favor.

After all, the main reason multiple dwarven armies, inculding a damn dwarven king, took orders from us, is because we are Loremaster. So don't expect too much favor. Do expect lots of "Huh. Guess she earned that Thane title" as well as respect and reputation.

It's like having a job. You're already being paid to deal with it. If something comes up, extraordinary, you'll get a bonus, but it won't be as much as they'd pay a freelancer to solve the problem.
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This is a really good point. I like the idea of getting paid in reputation only when one does ones job, and I BoneyM adopts this policy. I could still see us getting some favor though, because it is so huge. It also serves as a counterpoint to how we can exchange one favor for another by acting as a middleman. That action clearly doesn't result in rep, but does result in favor. I would also posit that there are probably factions that allow for gold to turn into favor in some method, but maybe not rep.
 
primemountain said:
See, I don't think so. Mat didn't do all that as Mat. She did it as Loremaster of K8Ps, and Thane of K8P. IE it was both expected and a duty for her. Some favor might be generated, but this is one of those "Are you doing it as Mathilde Weber, Magister of the Grey Colledge, or as Mathilde Weber, Lormaster of Karag Eight Peaks?"

I think what we will get is reputation with the dwarves (like already spent favor), far more than favor.

After all, the main reason multiple dwarven armies, inculding a damn dwarven king, took orders from us, is because we are Loremaster. So don't expect too much favor. Do expect lots of "Huh. Guess she earned that Thane title" as well as respect and reputation.

It's like having a job. You're already being paid to deal with it. If something comes up, extraordinary, you'll get a bonus, but it won't be as much as they'd pay a freelancer to solve the problem.
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Mathilde got 4 favour (and reputation) from Karagil - so she ought to get a lot more from reconquering Karak Eight Peaks.

Whilst decent performance in the course of duties is expected going way above and beyond any reasonable expectations and doing the sort of stuff that'll be written down in history books will always raise a few eyebrows and gain significant amount of political and social capital.
 
Zero Gravitas said:
Mathilde got 4 favour (and reputation) from Karagil - so she ought to get a lot more from reconquering Karak Eight Peaks.

Whilst decent performance in the course of duties is expected going way above and beyond any reasonable expectations and doing the sort of stuff that'll be written down in history books will always raise a few eyebrows and gain significant amount of political and social capital.
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BoneyM said:
The original campaign will have a chapter in the history books, these battles will be a paragraph each. If you want favour, play to your audience. I don't know how much clearer I can be about what Dwarves in general approve and disapprove of.
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A chapter for the original Campaign, a paragraph for Karagril and ??? for today :V
 
Abhorsen said:
This is a really good point. I like the idea of getting paid in reputation only when one does ones job, and I BoneyM adopts this policy. I could still see us getting some favor though, because it is so huge. It also serves as a counterpoint to how we can exchange one favor for another by acting as a middleman. That action clearly doesn't result in rep, but does result in favor. I would also posit that there are probably factions that allow for gold to turn into favor in some method, but maybe not rep.
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Zero Gravitas said:
Mathilde got 4 favour (and reputation) from Karagil - so she ought to get a lot more from reconquering Karak Eight Peaks.

Whilst decent performance in the course of duties is expected going way above and beyond any reasonable expectations and doing the sort of stuff that'll be written down in history books will always raise a few eyebrows and gain significant amount of political and social capital.
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There, she was acting somewhat outside her role as Loremaster - essentially as Ranger+. Here, she's acting within her role as Loremaster, given its emergency-expanded duties. So, possible decrease in favor because "well, it's her job", but also possible increase in favor because "she did her job".
LightLan said:
A chapter for the original Campaign, a paragraph for Karagril and ??? for today :V
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Heh. Someone sneakily edits Mathilde's copy of the book, so that the page(s) describing these events are replaced by "NOBODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. CONFUSION. PANIC. SHENANIGANS." and then it picks up with the aftermath.
Geebee said:
All this talk about us getting all the credit is making me think this again
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He's the one who hired Mathilde, he gets credit too.
 
Geebee said:
All this talk about us getting all the credit is making me think this again
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Surprise attacks happen. While I'm sure some people who already have a problem with him will raise an eyebrow, they'll be drowned out by the fact that k8p is back. If anything, I think the general opinion would be that the fact that Belegar had the foresight to bring on board a person capable of doing this reflects well upon his leadership skills.
 
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