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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.
[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.
[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
really, if we could get across the idea, Dragons would make the best investors/enterprisers.

Dragon: So if I give a little bit of my horde to this human, he will pay me enough tribute to get my horde back in as little a time as 20 years, a blink really, and will continue to pay me tribute for 10 to 20 years or even longer if his pup continues whenever it was they were doing... and if they disrespect me by not paying not only will no one will get mad if a get just revenge, but the men in metal will do it for me if I tell them?... why have I only heard about this now!
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The only problem I see with this, is that dragons aren't known for respecting the concept of limited-liability companies. But then, if possible immolation is at stake, maybe this would make CEOs act more cautios and longsighted?

Clearly there need to be more dragons in the financial industry
 
[X] YAR: Fortify and garrison all entrances to the mountain.
-[X] Specify who: Karak Izor immigrants
-[X] Specify leader: Mathilde
[X] Write in: Secure Karag Mhonar
-[X] Clan Angrund
[X] ZIFLIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
[X]RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.
 
I think the thread is giving Belegar too little credit. Sure he'll probably be a little disappointed he wasn't here for the big event, but he literally declared that for all that the big fight earlier in the expedition would be sung about, the easy, practical victory of Karag Lhune was better in his eyes. It was a character defining moment. He's going to see this as a huge win, be disappointed he wasn't here for it, and see the next day as better than the last.
 
[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.
[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.
[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
 
Alectai said:
There's overwhelming support in favor of scouting first, I'm just hoping that we're not pissing away victory at the brink because we're scared of the Dragon bloodlusting on us from being in the vague neighbourhood.
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It's more the other actions, for me. I want to be sure those actions have enough power behind them so that we aren't spread thin.
 
I hope the Mhonar mystery decided to follow the Draconic skavenmurder extravaganza and we finally figure out what it is during our recon.
I am convinced it's either a golem or ghost hammerers, and I want to see that possibilities that opens up.
 
Mopman43 said:
The Eshin Sorceror would have the Lore of Stealth. As far as I'm aware, summoning Verminlords is only something a Grey Seer could do?

(Don't you need a Screaming Bell?)
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Stupid question: Where's the Lore of Stealth? I can't find it in 7th Skaven book, and it was the last one. Where do you find the Skaven Eshin Sorcerer?
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It's in roleplay, under Children of the Horned Rat.
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Huh. You know, the sorcerer? It might just have what it takes to kill a dragon. Conjured Warpstars hit like a truck and can't miss.

But no, it doesn't seem to have "Summon Verminlord" the spell. But it might be a generic/every sorc gets one kind of thing. Summoning deamons is a thing chaos sorc do, a lot.
 
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Sinsystems said:
One thing I will admit is that if we manage this it will be interesting to see how things go when we don't have a bunch of enemies at our doorstep.
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Maybe Gotri will actually get around to doing that "outwards focused Martial Advisor" thing. :V

That said, while Karak Drazh is the big prize, other possible lucrative targets in our area would be Karag Dron and Iron Rock.

Omegahugger said:
... You know, bringing back Belegar's dad might just be the thing to reduce his stress levels.

Who wouldn't be happy to get a hug from your parent after decades of separation!?
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Well, Mathilde probably. She had no desire to go see her parents when she hit up her hometown that one time, and left with no plans of ever going back a second time.
 
picklepikkl said:
The border prince mercs are shit against trolls, because sending non-elite standard infantry up against trolls is insane. The Besiegers are great because one approved way of dealing with trolls is "fill them with steel from a hundred meters away."
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This seems like the worst matchup imaginable.
Fighting trolls in heavy armour is suicide. They projectile vomit acid. It soaks in, burns you underneath, and is impossible to get off because armor doesn't come with a quick release. You leave a half melted corpse and worthless corroded metal for you descendants to inherit.
Even Dwarves know to avoid wearing armor around trolls, never stand still, and chop away at them with axes instead of pestering them with crossbows.
 
primemountain said:
Also, the fear is the Skaven Sorcerer when faced with a Dragon might do what Sorcerers do when they panic/last gamble/bring out the nukes and push his big red "Summon Greater Deamon" button, which would in this case be a Verminlord.

Try reading the post you quoted one more time. I feel like this is a case of failing reading comprehension, because otherwise I have no idea where this post came from in response to that post.

EDIT: I think I see it. The Besiegers and the Border Prince are both mercs. I meant the latter, with the "Those two" pertaining to mercs. One is a named unit, IE, the Besigers, while the other is just mercs. I meant the Border Prince mercs and the miners can clear Skyre, if that wins. But I can see how that could cause confusion.
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I just went from ambivalent to the fates of the Skaven in the mountain to 110% interested in being there to "Nevertheless, Hammer" a Verminlord.
 
MooseHowl said:
This seems like the worst matchup imaginable.
Fighting trolls in heavy armour is suicide. They projectile vomit acid. It soaks in, burns you underneath, and is impossible to get off because armor doesn't come with a quick release. You leave a half melted corpse and worthless corroded metal for you descendants to inherit.
Even Dwarves know to avoid wearing armor around trolls, never stand still, and chop away at them with axes instead of pestering them with crossbows.
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A thousand crossbows murder trolls without them ever getting close.
 
The Verminlord, if it does come, is up against the worst possible matchup: an Emperor Dragon that uses the magic of anti-demon (Hysh).
 
MooseHowl said:
Only outdoors, where you can fit one thousand crossbows and see the trolls coming from across a full sized battlefield.
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I'm sure that if there were any legitimately substantial force of trolls left in either mountain that would be a real issue, but the rangers know where the trolls are, and there's maybe a couple dozen of them in an area the size of a city. They're wild animals, it's not going to matter.
 
ichypa said:
That said, while Karak Drazh is the big prize, other possible lucrative targets in our area would be Karag Dron and Iron Rock.
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Not going to happen,
A) we don't have enough dwarves to fill K8P for several life times, Dwarf lifetimes. Let alone another hold

B) that's not King-Bro's hold, as long as there is someone who can claim ownership of it and there is no grudge. He has no right to take it. Only help take it if their is a campaign.
 
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