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We are immune to dhar exposure.

And goal is to find a way to do it without producing dhar.

if we can manage that, then we can just teach people the correct method instead of all the trials and error bits.
just conquer new lands with your immortal undead legions.

Once you run out of planet its time to head out into space.

Now you aren't even being subtle about the "Using tongs to get multi-wind" thing being just a front for getting us to use Dhar manipulation
 
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Ninjafish is what I would tentatively classify as a variant of an Omega-Type voter, in case you were wondering. Different specifics, but they argue based on certain assumptions about setting details that are not held by the majority of the thread (e.g vampires are the next step in human evolution and other things of that nature, as an example, if I recall correctly).
Hags, Arabyans, possibly Hedge Wizards: "That would imply it hasn't been done."
Hedge Lore does have a casting cost of literally zero, if I remember that time somebody posted the details correctly (it must have been thousands of pages ago).
 
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Ninjafish is what I would tentatively classify as a variant of an Omega-Type voter, in case you were wondering. Different specifics, but they argue based on certain assumptions about setting details that are not held by the majority of the thread (e.g vampires are the next step in human evolution, and other things of that nature, if I recall correctly).

Hedge Lore does have a casting cost of literally zero, if I remember that time somebody posted the details correctly (it must have been thousands of pages ago).

I mean... vampires are a further step in human evolution.

Not necessarily the only possible route though.

Too bad no one is bothering to try and find any alternatives.
 
We are immune to dhar exposure.

And goal is to find a way to do it without producing dhar.

if we can manage that, then we can just teach people the correct method instead of all the trials and error bits.
At this point, you are deliberately misinterpreting the actual lore for the sake of pushing what is not just a minority agenda, but one that is completely opposed to everything the rest of the player base wants. You are an outright troll, and have gone beyond mere disruption to outright sabotage.

Why haven't you been thread banned yet?
 
We are immune to dhar exposure.

And goal is to find a way to do it without producing dhar.

if we can manage that, then we can just teach people the correct method instead of all the trials and error bits.
Which doesn't change the fact necromancy turns everyone who uses it into crazed lunatics who do bad things. It's not bad because of immortality, it's not bad because the gods of Nehekhara don't like humanity, it's bad because using Dhar screws up your mind.
 
On the topic of "thread has reached stage 8", one of the intermediate stages to producing a Power Stone is obtaining it in a liquid form; comparisons have been made with this stage and Snakejuice. Now, I assume that drinking an incomplete ulgu-stone would be almost immediately fatal. However: One of the possible Arcane Marks that we could get involves the symbol of Ulgu appearing somewhere on our body,
We know that getting a tattoo of mundane ink would not grant the benefits of this mark.

...but what if we used Snake Juice or an incomplete Power Stone to make the tattoo?
 
Anyway, on the topic of Major Traits, I would consider Collegiate to be a very high priority option, as that lets us bring Gretel and Adela in full time--the former to have another ninja wizard, and the latter to get a wizard who specializes in engineering and has already shown off some enchantment potential.

But if we can upgrade Warrior of Fog or Windsage further? (Or quite possibly fuse the two), that would also be very, very valuable.

I do think this campaign will likely warrant a Super Trait however. It seems like we're getting in a position to end the War for Eight Peaks.
I'm fairly certain a Warrior of Fog evolution would be in line here, its perfectly resonant with the entire war turn so far, was the centerpiece of our full strategy from start to end, and factored into the multi-turn setup before that. Might well be automatic.

That said given how much looting we've been doing a Treasure Eye trait to rapidly identify whats the most useful thing to take if you only had a few minutes and no context to decide wouldn't be wrong either.

Or a Hail Dread Arengee trait...
 
I thought Cathay is the replacement of 'nippon' because GW correctly deduced using a real nation name (however obsolete it may be) for a fantasy place is dumb and culturally idiotic.

They then apparently missed the point because 'Cathay' is a invented Victorianism about china when they were fetishizing the 'mystic east'. Using a real name or a fake name given by dead and buried foreigner otakus of another completely real nation that didn't like the previous and vice-versa for a fantasy product...

Cure worse than the disease? Meh it's not like they don't do the same with 'Tilea' and such, but that's pretty tone deaf example if i have the sequence right.

resuming i thought GW was tending to 'nippon and cathay are one and the same in different editions', which is probably one more example of terrible decisions on worldbuilding and unnecessary friction if true.
 
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I thought Cathay is the replacement of 'nippon' because GW correctly deduced using a real nation name (however obsolete it may be) for a fantasy place is dumb and culturally idiotic.

They then apparently missed the point because 'Cathay' is a invented Victorianism about china when they were fetishizing the 'mystic east'. Using a real name or a fake name given by dead and buried foreigner otakus of a real nation for a fantasy product...
No, those are straight up the names GW decided to go with

Note that Cathay has a lot of details that are actually Japanese and not at all Chinese
 
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We are immune to dhar exposure.

And goal is to find a way to do it without producing dhar.

if we can manage that, then we can just teach people the correct method instead of all the trials and error bits.
This is remarkably foolish, considering:
If the Rune of Gazul gets enough of Gazul's attention to serve as a guard against unauthorized access, doe that mean Vallaya's getting pinged whenever we burn off Dhar with her Rune? I suspect our appearance of great competence amongst the Dawi is somewhat dented in her eyes, given how many times she's bailed us out...
Speculation would imply so. Perhaps that's why Kragg didn't see a problem with giving an artefact of free Necromancy to a manling wizard?
Your purported tool for doing so is, in fact, quite likely intended to keep track of attempting to do so.
 
I thought Cathay is the replacement of 'nippon' because GW correctly deduced using a real nation name (however obsolete it may be) for a fantasy place is dumb and culturally idiotic.

They then apparently missed the point because 'Cathay' is a invented Victorianism about china when they were fetishizing the 'mystic east'. Using a real name or a fake name given by dead and buried foreigner otakus of a real nation for a fantasy product...
No, Cathay is Fantasy China and Nippon is Fantasy Japan.
 
At this point, you are deliberately misinterpreting the actual lore for the sake of pushing what is not just a minority agenda, but one that is completely opposed to everything the rest of the player base wants. You are an outright troll, and have gone beyond mere disruption to outright sabotage.

Why haven't you been thread banned yet?

Not really?

The lore is up for interpretation.

And I kinda resent being called a troll and being accused of trying to sabotage you all?

I haven't made any sockpuppet accounts to try and rig the voting, or bribed anyone, or purposefully tried to post shit that could get the thread locked.

I have just tried to argue for the course of action i want, if it doesn't work... well i'll keep trying, but i aint gonna get salty about it.
 
I mean... vampires are a further step in human evolution.

Not necessarily the only possible route though.

Too bad no one is bothering to try and find any alternatives.
Khatep of Nehekara, the Liche Lord, Grand Hierophant of Nehekara is working on it.

Several millenia of research to make perfect, immortal, living bodies for Settra and all Settra might want to share that honor with.

So be assured, a mage with power and experience far beyond our current means is doing his best to achieve your goals, maybe we will get a chance to hear what he got so far eventually.
 
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I thought Cathay is the replacement of 'nippon' because GW correctly deduced using a real nation name (however obsolete it may be) for a fantasy place is dumb and culturally idiotic.

They then apparently missed the point because 'Cathay' is a invented Victorianism about china when they were fetishizing the 'mystic east'. Using a real name or a fake name given by dead and buried foreigner otakus of another completely real nation that didn't like the previous and vice-versa for a fantasy product...

Cure worse than the disease?
The Empire is basically the Holy Roman Empire. Bretonnia is an actual region of France. Albion is England. Nippon and Cathay are entirely par the course.
 
I thought Cathay is the replacement of 'nippon' because GW correctly deduced using a real nation name (however obsolete it may be) for a fantasy place is dumb and culturally idiotic.

They then apparently missed the point because 'Cathay' is a invented Victorianism about china when they were fetishizing the 'mystic east'. Using a real name or a fake name given by dead and buried foreigner otakus of another completely real nation that didn't like the previous and vice-versa for a fantasy product...
No, Cathay is the China equivalent, and it's Nippon which is the Japan equivalent.
Your purported tool for doing so is, in fact, quite likely intended to keep track of attempting to do so.
It'd be a massive reinterpretation of the effects and narrative value of the belt. 'Speculation would imply so' is kind of meaningless when it was speculation implying it that caused people to ask Boney about it. Like when Boney confirmed that Mathilde was secretly a vampire all along.
 
Not really?

The lore is up for interpretation.

And I kinda resent being called a troll and being accused of trying to sabotage you all?

I haven't made any sockpuppet accounts to try and rig the voting, or bribed anyone, or purposefully tried to post shit that could get the thread locked.

I have just tried to argue for the course of action i want, if it doesn't work... well i'll keep trying, but i aint gonna get salty about it.
You advocate for Dhar. You are a troll.
 
Anyway, on the topic of Major Traits, I would consider Collegiate to be a very high priority option, as that lets us bring Gretel and Adela in full time--the former to have another ninja wizard, and the latter to get a wizard who specializes in engineering and has already shown off some enchantment potential.
I don't think that's true.
[ ] Collegiate: They say managing Wizards is like herding cats. Herding cats isn't actually that difficult. Can manage three other wizards per action spent.
For us to be able to hire two more Wizards, it would have to drop the AP cost of the two organizations we manage to 1/3 instead of 1/2. I think we only get 1 more for free if we pick up Collegiate.
if we can manage that, then we can just teach people the correct method instead of all the trials and error bits.
The problem with this is that magic is famously difficult to teach to other people directly, because everyone's means of manipulating magic is so individual to them, and unlike the process of learning a normal spell where you can fuck up a bit without danger, every time they fuck up they will be exposed to ambient Dhar.
 
You advocate for Dhar. You are a troll.

That's not trollish at all.

It's perfectly legitimate path to want to explore in a quest.

And I'm not advocating for dhar anyway (Well not right now anyways), merely a process that may result in dhar until we perfect it. Kinda like how nuclear reactors results in radiation if not handled properly.

Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me a troll my dude.
 
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On the topic of "thread has reached stage 8", one of the intermediate stages to producing a Power Stone is obtaining it in a liquid form; comparisons have been made with this stage and Snakejuice. Now, I assume that drinking an incomplete ulgu-stone would be almost immediately fatal. However: One of the possible Arcane Marks that we could get involves the symbol of Ulgu appearing somewhere on our body,
We know that getting a tattoo of mundane ink would not grant the benefits of this mark.

...but what if we used Snake Juice or an incomplete Power Stone to make the tattoo?
Thinking along that line, one of the Skaven weapons, the Warpforged Blade, is basically a steel sword alloyed with warpstone powder. If one considers warpstone as a Dhar powerstone, it stands to reason that one could potentially alloy powdered powerstones into metal as well. I mean, there's no way that an Ulgu-alloyed blade will hold a candle to Kragg's work, but a proof of concept would put a substantial tool at the disposal of the Colleges for making magically enhanced weapons, armor, jewelry...
 
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