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In this metaphor we would've of course be europe.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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In this metaphor we would've of course be europe.
Well that's a rather insulting accusation, but whatever
I just don't believe that forcing one wind to forcefully interact with another is a good way to dedicate our time or get anything that interest me at all
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
In this example then theugry is finding a route around the horn of Africa to India. We know the approximate end result and we are discovering a new way to get there.
You want us to spend effort on something where the only known example of using the tech is nercomancy. That doesn't fill me with confidence that the brand new lore you hope to be lurking in America won't be an abomination like nercomancy.
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I know, europe DID all of that. I'd rather AVOID it by not doing it.
Actually hang on, a question -- I know that it says Cathayan on the char sheet and all, but... How do we know it won't end up being Nipponese? Or Indan, for that matter? Because Clan Eshin traveled to, and learned from, all three of those places. So we can't 100% be sure it'll be Cathayan specifically that it'll end up being. =/
Anyway. I guess we just make sure we grab a person who can recognize all of those languages.
... Hey, do you think we can use College Favor to hire Language Teachers? I mean... Favor can be used to get trainers... And foreign languages are certainly a school topic. We can also buy a Translator instead but, well... I like knowing more languages I guess. Plus if we're willing to shell out 5 Favor for a Boon of Hysh suddenly, I think we can spare a bit for Languages. (Ah, right, speaking of languages... people also wanted to learn Anoyeqan at some point, right.)
Anyway. I guess we just make sure we grab a person who can recognize all of those languages.
... Hey, do you think we can use College Favor to hire Language Teachers? I mean... Favor can be used to get trainers... And foreign languages are certainly a school topic. We can also buy a Translator instead but, well... I like knowing more languages I guess. Plus if we're willing to shell out 5 Favor for a Boon of Hysh suddenly, I think we can spare a bit for Languages. (Ah, right, speaking of languages... people also wanted to learn Anoyeqan at some point, right.)
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Necromancy is only bad because everyone arbitrarily decided that messing with corpses is icky, and gods got all thier followers riled up over it, so that they could still have their favorite snack food of human souls.
If no one ever dies, what need does one have for gods?
If nagash was less of a dick and necromancy had a better PR campaign everyone would be immortal by now and remember Nagash as the greatest hero of human history.
Accept the gods... they would all be dead.
Basically if we get another thing that bends the natural order over and makes it Humanities bitch like necromancy does, i would consider that an absolute win and a great success.
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Nix's Warden
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Yes, the Colleges of Aldorf and The Colleges have a deal set up that makes our Favors good for the former in regards to lessons on atleast languages. BoneyM made a post about it before.
As for Anoyeqan, that was mostly SuperSonicSound as far as I remember, because he thought it would let us use magic better, only for BoneyM to say it wouldn't. No one has really brought it up since then as far as I know?
Edit: Found it.
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Daecl
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Something something you DARE imply that Cathayan script looks anything like that of Indan scribbles or those twisted Nippon characters something something.
More seriously, Dragomas probably has that jade treaty of non violence with Cathay or whatever in his office and we likely recognized the characters from there.
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Use money. See if you can hire a tutor from the University of Altdorf first, before hitting the College.
After all, Cathayan and even Nipponese are not restricted languages, and if the current Supreme Patriarch came back with a diplomatic treaty, someone other than a wizard has to be able to read it.
Even if it's only secondhand via books imported by Elven sailors.
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Luminous
God Save The Queen
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I'm not sure if I can describe in human language the amount of apathy I hold for American Football, and team sports in general.
It's very obviously trying to get out of a difficult and morally complex option by trying to find a hidden third option to cercumvent all that moral complexity, at least on the surface. WoG has no impact on that.
That's the fucking point. There are no good options, there is no happy end to this. There's only a tough decision and two options. That's a key facet of this type of dramatic story telling. And trying to simply bypass it, speaking as an author in the interest of dramaticstory telling, it always, always greatly vexes, hell it almost offends me when either people try to persue some third "easy way out" or an author/QM can't have their audience decide on/read through a choice like that.
There's no good choice, and that's by design. So pick whatever you think is the least worst.
On the general question of agency vs being true to the setting, and effecting the world versus fixing the world: Mathilde's achievements have and will continue to be earned, rather than granted. Increases in power levels might allow her to set her sights on larger targets, but that doesn't mean she'll have to work any less hard to achieve them. I strongly believe in the concept of 'earned awesome', where a character being able to do incredible things is a whole lot more meaningful if it was a long and difficult on-screen process to achieve that ability, rather than them coming out of the box with it. Rest assured I'm keeping a careful eye on it.
Mathilde gets a bonus to messing with Orc magic. Orcs get a malus to messing with Mathilde magic. If an Orc is trying to dispel an already cast and ongoing spell and Mathilde is actively trying to stop them from doing so, or vice versa, that is the only scenario where Waaaghbane can be double-dipped.
It's related to Reikspiel, so two to three actions without it, one with. Polyglot also means if you spend a few action points somewhere another language dominates, you can pick up the language for free instead of it basically requiring full long-term immersion like with Khazalid.
It would certainly go badly. A lot of what the magic would consider 'wounds' are surgeries, and it would purge their systems of the 'poisons' that absolutely are poisons but are also keeping them alive.
Mathilde gets a bonus to messing with Orc magic. Orcs get a malus to messing with Mathilde magic. If an Orc is trying to dispel an already cast and ongoing spell and Mathilde is actively trying to stop them from doing so, or vice versa, that is the only scenario where Waaaghbane can be double-dipped.
It's related to Reikspiel, so two to three actions without it, one with. Polyglot also means if you spend a few action points somewhere another language dominates, you can pick up the language for free instead of it basically requiring full long-term immersion like with Khazalid.
It would certainly go badly. A lot of what the magic would consider 'wounds' are surgeries, and it would purge their systems of the 'poisons' that absolutely are poisons but are also keeping them alive.
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That's pretty much explicitly what happened, the nehekharan gods threw a hissy over someone actually succeeding at the mortuary cults goal of immortality.
They had been using it as a carrot that they could eternally dangle just outside of humanities reach, while lording over all the dead souls that once worshipped them.
Then nagash actually figured it out, and suddenly "Resurrecting the dead and living forever is eeeeeevilllllll REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
The nehekharan gods are just like the horned rat really, just slightly more subtle about it.
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So remember what Vlad said about even the best mortal becomes corrupt using Nagashs art? Guess who was a mortal when they started creating it? Nagash. That makes nercomancy the creation of a madman that turns everyone, even the one who invented it, even madder.
If it makes everyone that uses it madder than you can sort of see why it has such a bad rap.
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We are immune to dhar exposure.
And goal is to find a way to do it without producing dhar.
if we can manage that, then we can just teach people the correct method instead of all the trials and error bits.
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Tzeentch is that you? Are you trolling us again just for the lols?
You might be able to starve some of the gods with lack of souls, but most of the Chaos gods have sufficiently diverse portfolios where it wouldn't bother them much. And then there is that over crowding problem. well until all the rotting corpses walking around made the rest of the living either turn to nurgle or die from a multitude of illnesses.
Why not find out how to use magic without involving the Warp? Necromancy needs Dhar to work.
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just conquer new lands with your immortal undead legions.
Once you run out of planet its time to head out into space.
Alectai
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Anyway, on the topic of Major Traits, I would consider Collegiate to be a very high priority option, as that lets us bring Gretel and Adela in full time--the former to have another ninja wizard, and the latter to get a wizard who specializes in engineering and has already shown off some enchantment potential.
But if we can upgrade Warrior of Fog or Windsage further? (Or quite possibly fuse the two), that would also be very, very valuable.
I do think this campaign will likely warrant a Super Trait however. It seems like we're getting in a position to end the War for Eight Peaks.
But if we can upgrade Warrior of Fog or Windsage further? (Or quite possibly fuse the two), that would also be very, very valuable.
I do think this campaign will likely warrant a Super Trait however. It seems like we're getting in a position to end the War for Eight Peaks.
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moar spell creation traits!
Ganurath
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Hags, Arabyans, possibly Hedge Wizards: "That would imply it hasn't been done."
Nix's Warden
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