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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Deathbybunnies said:
I do want to buy some under-armour for Mathilde, now that it's available. It's mostly redundant with our Aethyric Armour, but we've seen our magic be disabled once in the quest, and there's any number of magical effects for turning off magic. Branalhune has one, even!
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Under-armor is a good short-term option, yes, but what I really want to do with the silk is make a new set of robes. Every time I reread and see how shoddy our second set of battle-robes are I wince.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
I do want to buy some under-armour for Mathilde, now that it's available. It's mostly redundant with our Aethyric Armour, but we've seen our magic be disabled once in the quest, and there's any number of magical effects for turning off magic. Branalhune has one, even!
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I wouldn't call it redundant, even if Boney decides not to factor it in mechanics-wise. It's something that is largely stab and slash proof, while also being very fire-resistant. While it won't do anything for blunt impact force, it's another layer of serious protection against slashing and stabbing damage, meaning you could turn an axe biting into your flesh into some broken bones and getting the wind knocked out of you (and knocked over). Against the big blows that would otherwise be lethal or seriously maim Mathilde, silk-armor being worn underneath the normal robes could reduce the damage to something less lethal.

Likewise, it's also really handy against projectiles like bullets and bolts. It's not a ceramic plate carrier equivalent, but it is something that could turn a puncture wound with the projectile stuck inside you into a nasty blunt force impact with the projectile falling away.

We ought to get a set for Eike, too--unlike us, she doesn't have a power-stone-boosted set of enchanted battle robes to protect her. She has the Aethyric Armor spell, granted, but that's not fire resistant and it's not active all the time (nor are you supposed to always have it up when, say, infiltrating somewhere dangerous).
 
The crazy thing is that with We silk Mathilde might be in the best position a human magic user has ever been when it comes to creating caster armor.
Earning some fitted Ithilmar pieces during her Ulthuan trip and combining them with spider silk would give her the best materials I can think of in the setting.
After that it's all up to how good of an enchantment she can create.
 
Things do feel too easy sometimes. It's good to see the narrative show unexpected problems with the Waystone project, and it's good to see the experts work together to help resolve them.
 
infinityDivided said:
Under-armor is a good short-term option, yes, but what I really want to do with the silk is make a new set of robes. Every time I reread and see how shoddy our second set of battle-robes are I wince.
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That's the other kind of silk, though, Not that I disagree - though I think people were vaguely planning to swap out the next time our Magic stat increased, and we'd have to enchant a new set of robes with our stronger Aethyric Armour. There was also talk of trying to Windherd something else on there too - I was rather partial to perpetual cleaning.

SaltyWaffles said:
I wouldn't call it redundant, even if Boney decides not to factor it in mechanics-wise. It's something that is largely stab and slash proof, while also being very fire-resistant. While it won't do anything for blunt impact force, it's another layer of serious protection against slashing and stabbing damage, meaning you could turn an axe biting into your flesh into some broken bones and getting the wind knocked out of you (and knocked over). Against the big blows that would otherwise be lethal or seriously maim Mathilde, silk-armor being worn underneath the normal robes could reduce the damage to something less lethal.

Likewise, it's also really handy against projectiles like bullets and bolts. It's not a ceramic plate carrier equivalent, but it is something that could turn a puncture wound with the projectile stuck inside you into a nasty blunt force impact with the projectile falling away.
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That'd be relevant to regular armour, but I think Aethyric Armour doesn't have to consider impact force going through it in the same way? I could be wrong though.
 
Eike can now enchant Lesser and Petty spells. Aethyric Armour is a Lesser Spell, and she knows the mastery as well.

We could totally do a Master/Apprentice enchanting lesson next turn where we make a set of matching robes together. Her windsense with our knowledge and runecraft could be a potent combo.
 
My god those new social actions are genuinely horrifying, GG Boney, thank you for the Christmas gifts.

I do wonder, between the canal warfare, silk market crashing, everything with the Waystones project and Aetheric Vitae, is there a point when people ask Mathilde to chill for a bit? Just take a break so they can stabilise things before something else breaks. Maybe some people will be relieved when we get around to Elfcation lmao.

Mathilde is pretty removed from a lot of the results of her actions so probably not, but the image of Algard sweat dropping as one of the only people who could plausibly put all that together is pretty amusing haha.

Parabola said:
I'll be frank, if Silk, Orb Reveal and Karak Vlag books somehow don't win, I'll be shocked. Shocked I say. Pan-Pan's treehouse and Lord Seilph also have a really high chance of success, honestly. The former because treehouse (possibly with silk sheets), the latter because it's a Grey Lord.

IIRC Boney previously said we couldn't have a social action with Lord Hatalath because we weren't seen as his peer. But it seems that Lord Seilph venturing out on his own means we can skip over that problem, because it is our business to snoop in on Sylvania every so often.

:V And maybe we can prove that we are his peer, in a sense.
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Honestly I think PanPan beats out the Vlag books, because PanPan is PanPan and the books are probably the least time dependent new addition (and I say this as a guy who seriously nerded out when we got the Elementalism books).

Still gonna bet on all five new options winning lol. Maybe Seilph gets beaten out.
 
SITB said:
Wait silk sheets? It's a Christmas miracle!!!
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Imagine if we only had one choice: ORB or SHEET?
masterofmadness said:
We will reveal our orbs on silk sheets! We are doing it man! We're making it happen!
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I unironically want this. As long as we get to take our silk sheets back with us.
Zero Gravitas said:
>Mathilde rolls up with the Orbs on a silken blanket in front of all the LMs from all the Colleges.

>LMs get excited

>Mathilde starts talking about the giant spider silk
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The Bursar chooses to retroactively be part of that meeting.

Mathilde, having now already been stress-sweating: "And all that money will be of tremendous use supporting various grey order activites, as directed by the appropriate administrators."
 
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Finally Silk!!
I wonder if remaking our armor with the most protective silk is now possible? or if we must wait even more?

Perhaps it will appear in our purchase options...
Too bad we couldn't do it in the same turn we present the orbs.
but I can't wait for the orbs; we have already waited too much
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
To summarise the last six months: we started three large scale waystone infrastructure projects, revealed AV and the Morbs, resolved a major dispute within the Runesmith's guild, found an ancient holy site, built a trade route into Laurelorn, unleashed the Jade college upon the Eonir, unleashed a Grey Lord upon Sylvania, broke the economy with We-Silk, and somehow found the time to make a musical instrument that detects dark magic as a side project.

Did I forget anything?

"Unseen but not unfelt" continues to only be half true.
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The trade route into Laurelorn was a years-long project mostly conducted by the Eonir; we provided the method/spell and taught their mages how to perform it. The trade route being complete is a huge deal, though: it's a pretty perfect encapsulation of the Queen's hopes for not being so isolationist while still retaining the defenses Laurelorn needs, and the best part is that the idea and spell came from the Empire but is fully under Laurelorn's control.

The one thing that does concern me, though, is that with the Rite of Way road completed, the obvious solution to Nordland's economic pains from Laurelorn asserting its borders and sovereignty (Nordland will no longer get that gold and silver from logging the leyline trees, gutting their gold and silver working industries) might no longer be viable: being the trade route for goods to and from Laurelorn. I guess there's still the appeal of the entire market that is Nordland (and presumably Ostland) incentivizing a trade route to Nordland regardless of one existing to Middenland already. And there is bound to be some variety of good that Nordland can provide that Laurelorn would happily buy up.

We-silk has been a long, involved effort by a lot of people in K8P. We did help out a bunch by providing a bunch of books on silk-working from Laurelorn, but the bulk of the work has been the weavers and leaders at K8P.

And let's give Totcher credit where it's due: she did a fantastic job of creating the opportunity in the first place for the Jade College by providing an ideal solution for Laurelorn and selling them on how rapidly the Jade College could teach the methodology if given the go-ahead.

As for the Portentiv, let's also not downplay the contributions by Egrimm and our hired Light College magister expert. Still, I do wonder if the invention will hold some appeal to the Karaz Ankor as well. A reliable magic-free way to detect specific Winds of magic and dhar in particular that comes in the form of a very portable musical instrument could probably save some time for runesmiths. Oh, wait, Kislev. No doubt there's demand for musical instruments that can detect and differentiate flares of magical energy there, dhar especially.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
The one thing that does concern me, though, is that with the Rite of Way road completed, the obvious solution to Nordland's economic pains from Laurelorn asserting its borders and sovereignty (Nordland will no longer get that gold and silver from logging the leyline trees, gutting their gold and silver working industries) might no longer be viable: being the trade route for goods to and from Laurelorn. I guess there's still the appeal of the entire market that is Nordland (and presumably Ostland) incentivizing a trade route to Nordland regardless of one existing to Middenland already. And there is bound to be some variety of good that Nordland can provide that Laurelorn would happily buy up.
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I'm not sure it's much in the cards.

It's been expressed before that Laurelorn and Middenland would rather go without than see Nordland also prosper.
 
With reading being neither time-sensitive nor actually social, I'm against the book actions for this turn. Holiday time with the wife takes precedence!

Also, while I have a definite feeling elfcation will not be happening next turn either, I will reiterate wanting to touch base socially with the ambassador before we're actually hopping on a boat.

@Boney Could there be a social write-in to present the current waystone work to (presumably still Daroir?) and find out Nagarythe sees any potential for it in the Shadowlands? I'm not sure if the Eonir would demand to be part of any such discussions, which might make it more complex than one social action
 
Aethyric Vitae, new orbs, spider silk, new waystones.

I think we are reaching a point where an increasing portion of historians will be compelled to call this a new era for the Empire. When exactly this era starts is a question of a lot of debate, but that it is a new era is not in question.
 
Mopman43 said:
I'm not sure it's much in the cards.

It's been expressed before that Laurelorn and Middenland would rather go without than see Nordland also prosper.
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Eh? I don't recall any such sentiment. More like "Nordland should just accept it was wrong and be grateful the consequences weren't worse", which is a far cry from "we'd rather turn down appealing opportunities than let Nordland also benefit from them".

Laurelorn has been wary of Nordland the whole time. Wary in the sense that "these guys could cost us a lot of lives if they go to war with us, even if they'd lose" and "we really don't want Nordland to go to war with us because of the chance that the rest of the Empire joins in". If Nordland calms down and Nordland and Laurelorn start talking to each other again, I can't see them willfully refusing lucrative trade opportunities out of spite.
 
We-Silk is/will be specifically not woven by Dwarves given that the established Dwarven Guilds for doing that decreed against it. Any silk products will have to either be done by non Dwarven Guilds or by a Radical new Local Guild.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
The trade route into Laurelorn was a years-long project mostly conducted by the Eonir; we provided the method/spell and taught their mages how to perform it. The trade route being complete is a huge deal, though: it's a pretty perfect encapsulation of the Queen's hopes for not being so isolationist while still retaining the defenses Laurelorn needs, and the best part is that the idea and spell came from the Empire but is fully under Laurelorn's control.

The one thing that does concern me, though, is that with the Rite of Way road completed, the obvious solution to Nordland's economic pains from Laurelorn asserting its borders and sovereignty (Nordland will no longer get that gold and silver from logging the leyline trees, gutting their gold and silver working industries) might no longer be viable: being the trade route for goods to and from Laurelorn. I guess there's still the appeal of the entire market that is Nordland (and presumably Ostland) incentivizing a trade route to Nordland regardless of one existing to Middenland already. And there is bound to be some variety of good that Nordland can provide that Laurelorn would happily buy up.

We-silk has been a long, involved effort by a lot of people in K8P. We did help out a bunch by providing a bunch of books on silk-working from Laurelorn, but the bulk of the work has been the weavers and leaders at K8P.

And let's give Totcher credit where it's due: she did a fantastic job of creating the opportunity in the first place for the Jade College by providing an ideal solution for Laurelorn and selling them on how rapidly the Jade College could teach the methodology if given the go-ahead.

As for the Portentiv, let's also not downplay the contributions by Egrimm and our hired Light College magister expert. Still, I do wonder if the invention will hold some appeal to the Karaz Ankor as well. A reliable magic-free way to detect specific Winds of magic and dhar in particular that comes in the form of a very portable musical instrument could probably save some time for runesmiths. Oh, wait, Kislev. No doubt there's demand for musical instruments that can detect and differentiate flares of magical energy there, dhar especially.
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Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to claim we did it all singlehandedly, it's just that all of those events have Mathilde involved in one way or another.

As for the Nordland trade thing, yeah that's a concern. Most of Nordland's income came from taxing merchants taking the land route between Altdorf and Erengrad, (the alternative was sailing via Marienburg) but merchants can now skip Nordland entirely by taking a short boat trip from Laurelorn.
 
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