chocolote12
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Any surgeon with an anatomical interest, for one.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Only if they rob graves, donating the body is fine since that is what the deal person wanted. And well a surgeon who robs graves should be stopped.
Of course the physicians don't rob graves. ...They have people for that.
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OK then those people need to be stopped. If you are in the business of robbing graves in WHF you are just as likely to sell to a necromancer as a surgeon, since the former do not wear flashing neon signs saying 'evil wizard'.
Ganurath
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"Of course, one would think the Zonokral would be all too eager to cleanse Sylvania of undead. They'd been a menace to the Empire for longer than the Colleges have existed, although I'll admit it hasn't been long. Apparently that wasn't good enough for them, though. All I'd been able to get was one looking for a fun vacation. Exacting justice against the bitterest enemy of my home province was fun for him, was it? We would've been better off without him. He didn't provide any healing to the man I... the man I'd been serving at the time. Great man, dead too soon. No, the Zonzhufi's lone contribution to the campaign was accidentally blowing himself up, and taking scores of innocent civilians, victims of the necromancers, with him. The reason they're so arrogant is because of zonzhuf's association with purity, but as far as I've seen they're only as pure as an elgi's chin. Make a big fuss about Teclis favoring their founder, Volans, but that was just because his zhufdok was keen enough to see that which the elves of Ulthuan alone wield, a way to blend all eight without getting any kolzhuf. Not sure what the word would that would be, probably involving one of the words for a strong alloy. Anyway, I'm sure it was the inability of Volans that convinced Teclis that humans could never use their alloyed zhuf, but I think it's actually because Volans was a Zonokri that he couldn't do it, since trying to cleanly alloy the zhuf together is where the zonzhufi fixation on purity ruins their efforts before they begin. I've had plenty of time to harvest zhufzan, though, and I'm beginning to suspect that Teclis gave up on us to make sure that Ulthuan would always have the best zhuf all to themselves."
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No, but you would have to befriend him. And yes, it would be possible to pay a little more than usual to get an expert to travel to you, and this will be among the options.
My main pushback is... WHHHHHHYYYYYY?
It's not the oaths, it's the bizarre fixation from learning the secrets of this one rando religious order that isn't even of Mathilde's god. If we do end up in a situation where some of Garzul's secrets could help a problem, I have great news for you... Gunnar is a colleague and he can just share his knowledge on that particular topic at the appropriate time. We don't need to learn what he knows because he already knows it.
It's just so weird. It makes no more sense to me than a sudden urge to learn horticulture from Master Baker Hluodwica Stoutheart, and about equally as useful.
If we want to seek out religious instruction, I have a suggestion. Let's take some actions to track down a professional priest of Ranald and learn the religious practices and priestly secrets of a god we actually worship.
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You're fixating on the "Dwarven religion" part and not on the "soul teaching" and "Gazul-priest tier sword" and "overlapping fields of authority and work" parts. Just because he can "share his knowledge" on one of those things at any time doesn't mean it's gonna be as useful for us to personally know it.
If you're looking for IC narrative reasons besides the sheer utilization purposes, there's the incident with the gods that led to her meeting Gunnar which has led to her skills, there's the fact he did her a solid, even if only because it was his job, there's the fact that again, our fields will overlap here, there's the fact we've been very personally involved in dealing with the undead, just like his and his...
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She too would bind Mathilde to a Holy Oath, but it would mostly be about proper appreciation of pies.
Because it's the soul-lore of an elder race that was plumbing the secrets of magic and the soul before humans had figured out fire. That is the sort of thing that has value, now wether it has enough value to be worth the investment I'm not sure, but it's definitely not worthless given how entwined magic and the soul are in WHF.
TheOmnimercurial
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I'd like to see Mathilda get a Dragon.
Maybe Elf Merc as Husbando?
Maybe Elf Merc as Husbando?
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Exactly, there's no point making the commitment to it yet.
Omegahugger
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Necrophiliacs, I presume. I mean yes, we would oppose them, but they are rather low on the totem-pole of enemies.
Let's say a witch hunter (or an elector count of stirland) enters into a burial mounds because they think there's a necromancer (or some paperwork) in there, and they're wrong, does that mean we need to go beat up the dastardly defiler of the dead?
Like, 'defiling' the dead can mean a hell of a lot of things (up to and including cutting apart volunteer bodies).
I think there's far too much risk of being caught in a situation with no good answer (maybe we spot a grey wizard using an intact tomb as a hideaway) for swearing oaths of this sort to be good in basically any but the most dire circumstances.
Like, 'defiling' the dead can mean a hell of a lot of things (up to and including cutting apart volunteer bodies).
I think there's far too much risk of being caught in a situation with no good answer (maybe we spot a grey wizard using an intact tomb as a hideaway) for swearing oaths of this sort to be good in basically any but the most dire circumstances.
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First, if its not sealed its not blessed by their standards and thus that doesn't matter. if its still sealed/blessed, then it ain't got necromancers
2nd bit is something I asked Boney about this above.
3rd it is plausible, but not very damn likely as they won't come up very often, not with the clarifications Boney's given above.
Eh... I'd say let's wait see what necromancy offers first.
Sure we probably shouldn't but I don't want to close a door before prematurely.
I imagine most necromancers are more of the dark, hooded robes type.
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no. thats not how it* works.
*dragons, Dragon bonding, warhammer race relations, warhammer interracial relationships, advancement in this quest. insert as needed.
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Ganurath
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Mathilde didn't use Dhar to save Abelhelm. Why would she use it for anything less?
Mutation, contamination of our soul with Dhar, every single Order-aligned person in the world hating our guts if they ever see us practicing dark arts, inability to use Ulgu.
Just stick with learning universally applicable stuff and how to dismantle necromancers. Everything else has a price that is just too much.
Also, this.
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DarkLight140
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I believe that we can get to Profit! in much less than seven steps. We don't have enough action slots to put up with this kind of inefficiency.
I'm pretty sure a vampire would be fine wearying Kragg's belt other than perhaps not being able to passively feed on Dhar when blood is scarce