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Also this. This sounds like it would be more useful.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Could you elaborate on why ? Because I still fail to see what would make dwarven soul lore specialy unique or useful. Is just not the kind of thing they are famous for.
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Well, I believe I shall retire until the update.
And I admit that the fluff attached to our Piety level is heartwarming.
And I admit that the fluff attached to our Piety level is heartwarming.
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If a man looks at us with aqshy in his eyes, does he want to kiss us or punch us? Let's find out.
Yes, but in general it will almost always be easier and faster to learn from someone else.
To expand on this, one of the issues with actually using knowledge from the LM is explaining where we got it and why we aren't sharing it with the Grey College. Learning the secrets of Gazul provides us with a ready explanation for any insights we might glean, along with a cover for why we can't share them. Additionally, soul lore and the Divine in general are the kind of thing that might aid in pursuing Ulgu Sorcery.
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I'm wondering if it applies to more than languages though, as BoneyM seemed to imply that on the job training isn't as useful as you have to reinvent the wheel instead of just learning about it. I was wondering about some of the skills (like sneaking) that we use a lot, but aren't listed. Or is sneaking just folded into Intrigue?
We can learn both?
Imperial institutions don't know much about souls I think?
Only the tomb kings, vampires, dwarves and elves do
That falls under the base stat instead of being a skill of its own, but you could learn specific situational sneaking subskills. Things like mountaineering, tunnel tactics, woods lore, or target-specific like 'Greenskin Infiltration' to represent you learning their field of view, what light levels they can see in, how to tell their alertness by body language, and so forth.
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I don't buy this. Maybe, maybe there are things in there that cannot be explained. But I rather doubt that, short of actually starting to use Ulgu to manipulate dhar, and it won't help there.
Hell, the Windsage already is a wonderful reason why we know stuff, and "Grey Wizard"+"Can't find the words" is enough for why we don't talk about it.
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Well, off the top of my head, one set of knowledge doesn't require on-your-life, not-just-don't-tell, but never-ever-break Oaths, lets we pull the entire dwarven kingdom down on our heads.
Still love this.
On the flip side... very very depressing to see the fear warring with distrust in the hearts of virtually every human she encounters...
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I certainly cannot see any problems with studying THE necromancy textbook after making an oath to kill any necromancers, among other things.
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One, unless we go to the colege, them we can learn up to 4 with an action.
Why dwarves ? That is the thing I am not getting, all the others make sense but why would the race incapable of perceiving souls would have tons of soul lore that no one else have ? We are asuming to much about what they know.
So I was checking the character sheet and spell list, and I was wondering...
Can Mathilde's Mystical Matrix be used on dwarves? Because we could "prep" spells for dwarven rangers. Let's see, the limit of "only spells normally cast on others" is tough, but they could still use:
Shadowsteed (for when speed is the key)
Substance of Shadow
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Huh, I think that's it. Well, even the two of those would be useful. Giving each Ranger the ability to pop a "Subtance of Shadow" once at will might save a lot of lives.
Can Mathilde's Mystical Matrix be used on dwarves? Because we could "prep" spells for dwarven rangers. Let's see, the limit of "only spells normally cast on others" is tough, but they could still use:
Shadowsteed (for when speed is the key)
Substance of Shadow
....
Huh, I think that's it. Well, even the two of those would be useful. Giving each Ranger the ability to pop a "Subtance of Shadow" once at will might save a lot of lives.
There's still all sorts of reasons not to let on that you have The Book, but Dwarven opinion isn't one of them. For them, 'forbidden knowledge' would mean Guild Secrets, and as any 'Guild of Necromancers' would not be recognized by Dwarven society as anything but an enemy to be destroyed, their secrets are fair game.
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You know, this:
Tears, sweat and blood indeed.
Just tells a hell of a story on its own.
Tears, sweat and blood indeed.
@BoneyM has characterized the oaths as not very onerous and pretty easy to keep to, though, so I'm not sure why this is such a big concern.
Dwarves and magic don't mix. Normally that would just mean it's harder to cast even friendly spells on them, but the best case scenario is that the Matrix would quickly erode from their magic-resistant nature. Worst case, they begin to turn to stone.
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The dead are one and all their ancestors. And ancestors are one of the most important facets of Dawi culture. Preserving the sanctity of the honored ancestors is thus important. That there is a god dedicated to the souls of the ancestors heightens that.
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Why should they care? No one besides @Omegahugger actually wants to use necromany; studying the tools of you enemy so you can destroy them better or turn them to good ends doesn't seem like something they'd object to?
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I...actually, you know what guys, just don't talk about it please.
There is still a moratorium on the topic.
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I cannot grasp this interest in the tenets of this Dwarven priest of the underworld.
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- Everywhere
Because the one priest of Gazul we met could take one look at us and figure out exactly what happened to our soul. Imagine that knowledge in the hands of someone who can actually perceive souls.
Omegahugger
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I mean, the scenario presented involves Roswita tearfully apologizing for saving Mathilde from an amorous God, which has obvious problems.
Maybe some people just care about my feelings on the matter ;_;