Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Judging from Boney doing the rolls for Mandred, at least one if not both of his.
If Mathilde ever does something a lot of assassins keep getting sent against her a mobile flying base may be a good idea.
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- USA
I was informed that it's still too early in the timeline for an airship to show up.
Russian myths have at least one major male wizard - Koschei the deathless. More recently Rasputin comes to mind.
I remember there being shocking amounts of males with magic in Russian fairytales, although admittedly most of them are more superhuman style dudes who can hear anything, or drink oceans or are so fast they have to keep one leg tied to their ear and hop around on the other foot because otherwise they'll be over the horizon before you can blink.
Excited to see the social scenes.
I remember there being shocking amounts of males with magic in Russian fairytales, although admittedly most of them are more superhuman style dudes who can hear anything, or drink oceans or are so fast they have to keep one leg tied to their ear and hop around on the other foot because otherwise they'll be over the horizon before you can blink.
Excited to see the social scenes.
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You know, I do believe this is a milestone for us. Nowhere else have we gotten to tap into a collection of writing that has survived unscathed since before the time of woes, much less since the dawn of recorded history.
Mathilde's romance shelf will be unlike any other on malum, after this.
Parabola
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Given how Koshchei the deathless and Rasputin are portrayed, I wouldn't be surprised if that influenced how the Ice Witches very much do not want to teach magic to their men.
It's definitely gonna make not just the Nuln Bookboon but also Mathilde's initial book-buying spree at the start of the Reclamation look like peanuts.
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To be fair, I expect that the empire will have a broader corpus just by dint of being so much bigger. We're getting that corpus at a slower pace however, and via the colleges we already have a fairly sizeable portion of its magical subjects. (Perhaps with this haul we'll be able to negotiate for the rest? Maybe wait for the Vlag book haul for that, make those sharing agreement negotiations even more hilariously one-sided)
But then you get into the prestigious tomes and yeah, there's not going to be any comparison there at all lmao. Every time I think about it I come up with new shit that could plausibly be in there - .ike, fuck, do you think it'll have any records of specific dawi/elf collaboration projects?
So excited to finally break this pinata open.
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Your average imperial Noble does not inherently value their education, the thing that makes them noble is 1 their bloodline and 2 their 'hands on experience'. The feudal nobility are the original believers in the 'School of Hard Knocks', that is had as little truth then as it has now is of little import. Completing one's education was for third sons who want to get into the priesthood.
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Parabola
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At this rate we're gonna get a Cult of Verena social interrupt.To be fair, I expect that the empire will have a broader corpus just by dint of being so much bigger. We're getting that corpus at a slower pace however, and via the colleges we already have a fairly sizeable portion of its magical subjects. (Perhaps with this haul we'll be able to negotiate for the rest? Maybe wait for the Vlag book haul for that, make those sharing agreement negotiations even more hilariously one-sided)
But then you get into the prestigious tomes and yeah, there's not going to be any comparison there at all lmao. Every time I think about it I come up with new shit that could plausibly be in there - .ike, fuck, do you think it'll have any records of specific dawi/elf collaboration projects?
So excited to finally break this pinata open.
...We should prooobably negotiate with them at some point soon. We know the Library of Mournings is actually relatively public and you can just copy its non-restricted texts by having elves do it, but the Verenans won't know.
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You can copy it by having elves do it if you have diplomatic connections with said elves and the only humans with those connections would be those involved in the Waystone Project and a few Middenlanders. The Verenans don't have the connections to step foot inside Tor Lithanel let alone get a glimpse of the contents of the Library of Mournings and hire someone to start copying it.
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True. And I suppose even if they did have those connections, they wouldn't be able to copy restricted texts, so an agreement with us would still be one of the only ways to get access to them.
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- being near locations is my passion.
I'd love to find some way of leveraging what we got here to remove that institutional rivalry with the Verenans.
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Even if Mandred is the weakest wizard in the world I expect him to be promoted on nepotism eventually.
Not if he is too weak to manage the bare minimum spells, that would be too obvious, but if he makes it to Journeyman there is enough slack in the system that practically anything by way of Mastery project can get him to Magister.
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One advantage Mandred is going to have is that nobody will expect him to wander into dangerous situations on his own, or hurry up.
He will be given every advantage possible, and all the time he needs, to get to at least bare minimum of magisterhood.
But he will need to get there, because, as already pointed out, everyone wants this to work, and allowing someone without the needed skills to graduate to magister is just asking for things to go wrong.
And, while not exactly demanded of him, i suspect there will be every attempt made to make him excell, instead of merely manage.
He will be given every advantage possible, and all the time he needs, to get to at least bare minimum of magisterhood.
But he will need to get there, because, as already pointed out, everyone wants this to work, and allowing someone without the needed skills to graduate to magister is just asking for things to go wrong.
And, while not exactly demanded of him, i suspect there will be every attempt made to make him excell, instead of merely manage.
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In my severely uncharitable opinion, if the Verenans want our books they can come and take them if they think they're hard enough. If Verena had a problem with Mathilde, we'd know, and so I'm entirely unsympathetic to the cult being mad they didn't get consulted. Mathilde doesn't owe them anywhere near An Entire Library Of Elf Books.
Like, a couple sections and a reference at most.
Like, a couple sections and a reference at most.
I mean they are entirely welcome to spend their AP to come hat in hand and negotiate with us. I would be willing to give them an generous exchange, we have no reason to dislike them really... but we also have no reason to like them. If they want our books they will have to hand over copying rights to some of theirs.
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- being near locations is my passion.
I'm not much motivated by 'fair' or 'deserve' or the like.
What I want is "this to not be a problem in the future". I dunno what the upper limit is on what i'd prepare to give in order to receive that, but it is much greater than "Verenan cult can die mad".
On this topic I fear we are irreconcilably opposed.
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Verenans are as free as anyone else to come by and pay to get a book copied as anyone else.
Some books are not available for copying, but that's basicly true of most libraries at this age.
If they want a sharing deal, i'm all for it, they have other libraries we will want to copy as well.
Some books are not available for copying, but that's basicly true of most libraries at this age.
If they want a sharing deal, i'm all for it, they have other libraries we will want to copy as well.
I get where you are coming from, but the problem with just giving them stuff so 'they will not be a problem' is incentivizing them to be even more of a problem to get more stuff until they have all our books for free... and then other people will take note. This will not just mean we are unable to get books from them, it will also mean that any potential partners who would be willing to give things to Mathilde, but not to anyone who might be inclined to bully Mathilde will think the better of it.
Also philosophy aside the ability of the Cult of Verena to actually be a problem to us is very limited. KAU is located in a dwarf hold at the edge of the civilized world where the cult does not have much of a presence and what presence they do have is likely to be among the scribes we are... already paying. I do not think they are going to choose a priest in far off Nuln over their paycheck and cushy job anytime soon.
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There's a pretty vast gulf between "come and take them if your though enough" and "hand them out for free".
I seriously doubt even the most angry at us Verenan just expects free books out of us (they might "demand" it, no harm in trying, but they won't expect it).
We can just deal with them like we do with any other major institution with huge libraries.
I seriously doubt even the most angry at us Verenan just expects free books out of us (they might "demand" it, no harm in trying, but they won't expect it).
We can just deal with them like we do with any other major institution with huge libraries.