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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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If I'd started out with my current level of ability at running a quest I probably would have made the conspiracy more active, more morally grey, and more generous. I spent most of the early quest getting a handle on both the mechanics and the social aspects of running a quest, and had vague ideas that they'd get more involved when Stirland started having to rule over lands within Sylvania, but Abelhelm's fate and the torch passing to someone unwilling to continue Mathilde's employment made that impossible.

But as disruptive as all that was, my decision to stick to the dice no matter what, even as it completely uprooted the quest, has been for the better, not least of which because the things the dice have done since would be a lot less fun if I was rolling the dice somewhere where I could put my thumb on the scales. I honestly wouldn't have been able to blame anyone for having doubts on both Eike and Mandred being Wizards if I hadn't rolled those dice in the open.
 
I am absolutely certain that we can come up with something interesting for Eike to do while in Lothern, and I expect there to ultimately be knife-fights in the thread about which thing in Lothern would be most interesting.

It's one of the biggest trading ports in the world, and Eike has an interest in trading and in ships. Task her with cataloguing the overall material inflows and outflows of Lothern and writing up a report on where the shipments are coming from and going to. Side objective: how many separate smuggling operations can she identify?
 
Redshirt Army said:
I am absolutely certain that we can come up with something interesting for Eike to do while in Lothern, and I expect there to ultimately be knife-fights in the thread about which thing in Lothern would be most interesting.

It's one of the biggest trading ports in the world, and Eike has an interest in trading and in ships. Task her with cataloguing the overall material inflows and outflows of Lothern and writing up a report on where the shipments are coming from and going to. Side objective: how many separate smuggling operations can she identify?
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[✖] [Eike] Locate the milk smuggling operation and fix it so dad can come home
 
Maybe task her to find some trade contacts for the EIC in Lothern? Even if the Elves aren't interested there might be some human merchants who are.
 
Redshirt Army said:
I am absolutely certain that we can come up with something interesting for Eike to do while in Lothern, and I expect there to ultimately be knife-fights in the thread about which thing in Lothern would be most interesting.
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[z] Eike: have her find what she thinks Mathilde would consider the most interesting task to do in Lothern and work on it until either completion or something suitably dramatic happens.
 
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Eisenhelm said:
[x] Eike: have her find what she thinks Mathilde would consider the most interesting task to do in Lothern and work on it until either completion or something suitably dramatic happens.
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You should replace the x with something else if you've already voted in the current vote, new votes override older votes in the vote counter's logic so any previous vote would be ignored.
 
DocMatoi said:
my friend Lemon (@lesnickerdoodle on twitter) was taking requests, and i got us a mathilde!
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infinityDivided said:
Just letting you know (in case you haven't been informed already) but this pic is dead.
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A quick trick you can do: While discord doesn't allow linking its images on other websites anymore, you can still copy the link and post it in discord itself to see or download the image. You can rehost it after that.

Original link:
Temp rehost (DocMatoi, you should get this up on an account you control when you have the time):

(Also I think postimg downscaled it, so either pull the original from your harddrive or get the discord copy I guess lmao)
 
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pucflek said:
I know Eike has been groomed to take over EIC, but i am still kind of weirded out that this is the lesson you want to teach to someone sworn to poverty.

Do note that Mathilde never grew wealth this way. (That i can recall, anyway)
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It's not a perfect 1-to-1, but I recall we did finagle that discretionary budget off Abelheim initially; I consider the gongfarming, EIC, harmless information selling more or less a proximate or second-order result of all that, which would eventually balloon into our current fortune.

I wouldn't be at all opposed to giving our Apprentice some spending money and telling her to quote 'impress us' unquote. Tell her to find us some interesting rumor that we don't already know, or find and resolve some problem. She should probably be given some direction so that we don't come off like we're pawning her away, but giving her some minor adventuring room would do wonders for her sense of independence.
 
Redshirt Army said:
I am absolutely certain that we can come up with something interesting for Eike to do while in Lothern, and I expect there to ultimately be knife-fights in the thread about which thing in Lothern would be most interesting.

It's one of the biggest trading ports in the world, and Eike has an interest in trading and in ships. Task her with cataloguing the overall material inflows and outflows of Lothern and writing up a report on where the shipments are coming from and going to. Side objective: how many separate smuggling operations can she identify?
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Oh I like the smuggling spotting. I like it a lot.
 
I am for just sending Eike back to the empire with what ever Mathilde buys and doing some nice espionage on the Eonir. She be far less likely to die or to be murdered by the sea elves.
 
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Personally, I really think we should just leave her in the Old World and have her study or learn something mostly on her own - for instance, getting more familiar with Shallya, or continuing her education with Wilhelmina. I really really wouldn't see it as a bad thing for her to spend more time with others or obtaining some independence.
 
Parabola said:
Personally, I really think we should just leave her in the Old World and have her study or learn something mostly on her own - for instance, getting more familiar with Shallya, or continuing her education with Wilhelmina. I really really wouldn't see it as a bad thing for her to spend more time with others or obtaining some independence.
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Oh oh, maybe when we return we could get her to report on all activities of Apprentice Eike Hochschild during this unsupervised time, and write us an assessment of her motivations and reasoning behind these actions. :V
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You stare down at the sheet of paper; you scan the questions on it, you double-check the name at the top to make sure that you've got the right page, and yes, you're being asked to report on your own loyalties. That strikes you as somehow deeply unfair, and it's just the start.

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To the best of your knowledge, assess Journeywoman Mathilde Weber's level of dedication to a) the Grey College; b) the Empire; and c) humanity, factoring in her beliefs and motivations as well as any ties that bind her to the well-being of the above.
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Alliterate said:
Oh oh, maybe when we return we could get her to report on all activities of Apprentice Eike Hochschild during this unsupervised time, and write us an assessment of her motivations and reasoning behind these actions. :V
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I don't think she has had enough time out of the colleges to build up worryingly levels of loyalty to other stuff. So we'd get "is loyal to the grey college and her master especially, is loyal to the empire, is loyal to humanity."
Or some such.
That test was difficult for us because we actually had experienced lots of different cultures.
 
pucflek said:
I know Eike has been groomed to take over EIC, but i am still kind of weirded out that this is the lesson you want to teach to someone sworn to poverty.

Do note that Mathilde never grew wealth this way. (That i can recall, anyway)
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Eike is not sworn to poverty in a way anyone who is or ever was poor would recognize, she is sworn not to use Ulgu to steal and scam from imperial citizens with a catchier name. Source: The action we just took to get an inconceivable economy-unbalancing amount of money beaten out not because of any vow, but because we ended up valuing books or company growth more.

There is nothing really stopping her from making it her life's work to make the EIC as wealthy and as powerful as she can as long as she does so in a way that is not disruptive to Imperial interests as far as her peers are concerned. And Grey wizards have a lot of leeway if they are trusted.

That said I do not think she would particularly enjoy doing that. I am reminded of the vote to take her on and the rolls for what she would like to be best at. It came out 'learning.' Two years later and she now has an alchemy trait and a start on two major esoteric skills Waaghbane and Windherder. If I were to guess what she would rather do in the magical elf port when left alone it would probably be 'try to find someone willing to teach her elf alchemy'
 
Eike is a pretty decent swordswoman. I'd be confident bringing her to fight Goblins, Humans, most basic undead, maybe Skaven if we could avoid any of their wackier things

But Drucchi? No.
 
Tobtorp said:
I don't think she has had enough time out of the colleges to build up worryingly levels of loyalty to other stuff. So we'd get "is loyal to the grey college and her master especially, is loyal to the empire, is loyal to humanity."
Or some such.
That test was difficult for us because we actually had experienced lots of different cultures.
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Well, hopefully anyway, but I didn't half-jokingly propose she evaluate her loyalties, just to report on and analyse how she Eike chose to spend the time while we were away.

Plus, the full thing would be giving away the Magisterhood test.
 
I just had a thought about next turn, assuming we do go to Lothern... we could use the Father. There was already some talk of using it next turn so we can poke the Lady which is looking more and more like the Other Daughter, but what if we used it on elf gods as well? Lothern is a cosmopolitan port city, just the kind of place one would expect to find priests of Elven gods one can approach and speak to as a random human and see if they exhibit an unexpected degree of trust. On the other hand I expect that if we can do this it will come at the cost of some or all of our shopping so I'm not sure if it is worth it, especially since using the Protector for killing Druchi has obvious advantages.
 
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