I mean, the webmat mission statement apparently calls out trying to work with runesmiths in particular, so having something to bribe them with to come join our research projects once we're done with the waystones would be nice, but I imagine that's far enough out that we'll be able to build a reserve back up.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Just hers. The thread was so very insistent on all the actual material research being done before Thorek got a whiff of it. Mathilde isn't going to be publishing the Rune recharge instructions as part of the book because that's Runesmith Secrets and they get rather intense about that, so Thorek's contribution to the research won't be a part of the book.
It's mostly regional. In Altdorf, Dragomas. In Wissenland, Elspeth. In Middenheim, Stanisława Skłodowicz. In Ostland, Anraheir. In Nordland, Arburg. In Stirland, Mathilde Weber.
I wonder what the folks back in her home village think about the Dammerlichtreiter.
Edit: On second thought, who cares what they think.
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I was going to say that undead mages can't use hysh (bar rare necrarch supernerds) but then I remembered liche priests. Godspeed then.
We should probably remove our belt then. It might overreact a tad.
Fortunately, Wolf knows exactly what to do with squirrels.
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Strictly speaking, liche priests, despite their appearance, aren't actually undead! They genuinely just live forever but keep aging and slowly falling apart because that eternal life very much does not come with any sort of eternal youth.
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Anyone know who they?
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Idk about the rest, but we briefly met Stanisława Skłodowicz before we dealt with the Ar-Ulric:
She's a reference to Marie Curie!
EDIT: As pointed out by @reignonyrparade we saw Arburg in the latest Patriarchbowl, and she was a canditate for recruitment to the waystone project:
And of course thanks to @Codex for her amazing informational posts, as always.
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Stanislawa seems to be the High Wizard of Middenheim. Mathilde's met them a couple times.
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Stanisława Skłodowicz, I believe the alchemist who Mathilde met once, Anraheir I personally have no idea, and Arburg is a jade I believe promoted battle wizard who canonically would precede Tochter Grunfeld as Jade Matriarch.
Edit: Specifically I'm pretty sure arburg was the newly promoted former battlewizard who went "yeah I can take him" when the LMs had the chance to challenge dragomas.
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Someone forgot to tell that to Hysh
. It still hits them harder. Actually hold on. It also hits Elspeth harder. Could it be for a similar underlying reason?As I've said before when this came up, I don't think that the goodwill of the Shadow Warriors will necessarily help with the Tower of Hoeth, as the Shadow Warriors aren't super influential in Asur politics. Maybe it'll help, but if you're going for a longshot you shouldn't turn the coin to the protector, but rather to ThE fAtHeR.
"What's this, mathymancer? Are you perhaps very stupid?" well yes, but not as stupid as Matt Ward, who wrote Uniforms & Heraldry of the High Elves. After all, which God or Gods should the mages of Saphery revere, being a group of studious magic users who study in the Tower of Hoeth and prize wisdom and knowledge above all other things? Well, they're called Loremasters of Hoeth, they work in the tower of Hoeth, and according to Markus Fischer they carry swords because of a myth that Hoeth stole a sword from a daemon or something. So obviously they all bear crescent tokens of Lileath, Goddess of fortune and prophecy - it just makes sense, you see. So most of their banners have moons or crescent moons, and also swords but specifically Lileath's swords because as we all know Lileath carries two swords, and of course also a bit of Morai-Heg imagery because yeah why not.
Now surely you see where I'm going with this. Assuming that Boney is going to incorporate this bit of lore - and why wouldn't he, it's so brilliant - and assuming that Lileath is the Lady and the Lady is the second daughter - again, clearly a sure thing - then turning the coin to the Father will get us the trust and faith of the Tower of Hoeth right away, no protecting required! A foolproof plan if there ever was one.
("Are you possibly inebriated, mathymancer? I'm pretty sure you already made this post before" no, Matt Ward's writing can certainly drive one to drink, but I am tragically sober. If I had a penny for every time Matt Ward decided the heraldry of an Asur kingdom should have a lot of Lileath symbols and a few Morai-Heg symbols instead of having the symbolism of their obvious patron God I would have two pennies, which isn't much but fuck Matt Ward am I right or am I right folks)
Huh. Is this another Gehenna situation where a wizard named themselves after an ancient elven wizard?
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Elspeth's is because she is simply that immersed in Shyish. In fact, Elspeth was the original impetus for Boney confirming that if you get enough into your Wind you kinda become immortal.Someone forgot to tell that to Hysh
Asides from 'literally every Arcane Mark', I think it's possible an Ulgu-immortal might suffer the same problem as Elspeth and become extra vulnerable to Hysh.
Edit: But anyway, I guess the liche-priests have that same problem because trapping their souls within their own bodies is unnatural enough as far as Hysh is concerned.
Could be a Gehenna situation where someone took on the name because they were real good at the spell/Battle Magic in general.Found Anraheir. Warhammer 8th Edition, page 165, the Lore of Beasts
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I'm fine with getting every Arcane Mark, so long as it includes Regimand's smoke beard.
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I think this is the guy who made the spell in Divided Loyalties. The dude's apparently famous in Ostland, so it's the perfect place to develop a spell based on unleashing malevolent forest spirits on someone.
And that, folks, is what you call "damning with faint praise".
Isn't that nearly the opposite of faint praise? Saying that you're an idiot but not nearly as absurdly braindead as someone else. That's just straight up damning with no praise to be had, with some sarcasm thrown in as well.And that, folks, is what you call "damning with faint praise".
In my experience generally damning with faint praise has the author talk around how terrible their subject is.
"He has an excellent command of english and attends all the classes."
-A teacher talking about a student in their math class.
edit: nevermind just realised you meant specifically about what he says about himself.
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Clearly our friends the Hekarti-worshippers learnt from the masters of getting-other-people-to-slap-your-God-on-their-stuff, and this is the result of the Cult of Lileath aggressively making deals with this being their payment.
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"Who's the Grey Patriarch again?"
"Pretty sure Algard's dead, that other guy's definitely retired.... Mathilde Weber?"
"Oh yeah, that makes sense."
On why the Loremasters would have Lileath's iconography, it's worth remembering that elves happily worship multiple gods at once. And Lileath gives blessings to the elven archmages that make them better at using High Magic. That's a reason to carry her symbol. I suspect Hoeth may be the god archmages mantle when studying magic but Lileath the one they do when casting a spell.
On future turn plans I suspect we'll need a third action to develop a spell to manifest an Apparition. It's a three step process. Capture, Bind, and then make Manifest. I'd of course advocate for my Knights in the Mist spell, which uses a fog bank as the medium from which the Apparitions condense and can then dematerialise and materialise elsewhere within. We've had that spell confirmed as possible; and I think that it would count for Warrior of Fog and the staff of Mistery, which is important.
On future turn plans I suspect we'll need a third action to develop a spell to manifest an Apparition. It's a three step process. Capture, Bind, and then make Manifest. I'd of course advocate for my Knights in the Mist spell, which uses a fog bank as the medium from which the Apparitions condense and can then dematerialise and materialise elsewhere within. We've had that spell confirmed as possible; and I think that it would count for Warrior of Fog and the staff of Mistery, which is important.
Increasingly sure the gospodar gods are the rebels of cd. It explains both their location usually in the east to start with, and ranalds killing of them. Possibly, the rygg widow theory is true, and there were once six or seven, before ranald killed a few.
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xamaplak
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On the one hand, that makes a lot of sense. On the other hand, I'm hesitant to give Matt Ward any kind of benefit of the doubt.
At that moment Lady Magister Dame Mathilde Weber felt something she has not felt for a long, long time. A feeling she hoped she had left in the distant past. A cold touch of dread.
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Much like James Bond waters down his martinis, a major faux pas to those who have opinions on how others enjoy their drinks; Mathilde boils her beer.
I want to make a second set asap and offer to trade the Hysh one to Cython in return for bedtime stories. Dragons have the best bedtime stories, and give/trade the rest to the colleges. (If asked we can just explain why we traded the hysh orb, since last time we got a story from a dragon the refrence to 'clever beings on silver ships' proved useful to Tochter)
After that maybe a few turns of output goes to making liminals realm or made available/traded for other peoples expirments?
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Long term, after Mathilde's death, I'd like to leave the box in the care of Belegar/K8P as I trust them more to keep to Mathilde's will than I do the Colleges, and split the output to the Karak Ankor and the colleges by some proportion for each to use as they see fit, with the rune charging and orb creating setups being at K8P probably, to reduce transportation.
That way each can trade or use to make liminal realms or expirment with their share of the output as they wish.
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