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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Codex said:
I like how this entire blurb completely sidesteps Eike's existence. In a story dedicated to Magda Wessen's romantic adventures, an apprentice would only hamper the story's progression.
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She'll be mentioned once she's a journeyman getting into her own issues so Magda can show up sometimes and be mysterious at her while solving her problems. It'll be entirely unclear as to whether Eila was a secret apprentice or if Magda's decided to just adopt a random journeyman and gaslight them into thinking she's their master.

And then Eila's employer turns out to be the newest distraction for Magda.
 
BurnNote said:
I imagine the trees help to shield you from the weather? If you're not at the very edge of the forest.
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The Sea of Claws gets some hardcore weather. An ocean view sounds nice until the point the sea spray freezes in midair and gets picked up by gusts and blown hard enough to punch through a tree trunk.

BurnNote said:
Gribblies is fair, that border probably gets the most gribblies, but it also seems like sea gribblies are the least likely to try to move in?
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Plenty of sea critters can make their way onto land if there's prey to make it worth it. Sea Trolls, Fimir, Prometheans, Lindwurms, Dragon Turtles, Sirens, Bog Octopi, Sea Serpents...
 
I thought Bog Octopuses lived in bogs. Also, there are goddamn sea trolls? Do they like, live underwater?
 
So, as something of an open question to other voters, can somebody put in words why so many people want the Max option? I am unlikely to change my votes, but I don't quite get the interest here and would like to get it.
 
Murazor said:
So, as something of an open question to other voters, can somebody put in words why so many people want the Max option? I am unlikely to change my votes, but I don't quite get the interest here and would like to get it.
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Well for one we have not talked to him about his project for three years. It would be nice to see how he is going, but also he did just go above and beyond narrativly by dealing with the (Not So) Wicked Witch of the North this turn and dragging himself through brambles across half of Reikland. I think he deserves some attention.
 
Did someone mention... the Bog Octopus?
Codex said:
"The Bog Octopus has fascinated scholars for many centuries. Grimblinnder believed it was created by a now lost civilisation. In The First Great War, he claimed to have found the following quotation carved into a fallen menhir in the Wasteland: "And the mighty eight-armed one was raised from the sea and made to guard our waste." This origin for the Bog Octopus is contradicted, though, by Liathalissen's epic treatise Aethyric Dominion, Falling Stars, Geomantic Construction and other Remnants of the Old Ones. Here, Liathalissen suggests that the Old Ones themselves were responsible, claiming that " Tepok waved his [hand] and [the Bog Octopus] was made. It was charged with patrolling the [under passages/tunnels], as it had been [gifted/designed with] a [body/shape] for the purpose." Whatever the truth of the matter, the Bog Octopus is an anomaly sure to confound scholars for many centuries to come." —Sigo Bentele, Magister of the Light Order (Warhammer Fantasy 2nd Edition Companion PG 119).
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The deep lore behind this creature fascinates me.
 
Boney said:
Similarly, Elves seem to lack the 'cinnamon roll' instinct. Every one of the Elf-beast relationships - Ulthuan in general with Great Eagles and Griffins, Caledorians and Dragons, Ellyrians and horses, Chracians and lions, and so on - are relationships of mutual respect because those critters are extremely deadly or powerful or magical or cunning or wise or whatever. Every time it's framed as something that is earned. They just don't seem to have that 'they are adorable, and I would kill for them' urge that humanity is prone to. So it would seem that you cannot build a relationship with Elves just by endearing yourself to them, you need to be able to earn their respect in some way first.
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I mean, would we get an idea of more normal elf-beast relationships from army books? I feel like there'd be a natural bias towards war beasts in that kind of book. Do we even get that kind of cinnamon roll urge feel from the Empire or Bretonnia books?
 
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Murazor said:
So, as something of an open question to other voters, can somebody put in words why so many people want the Max option? I am unlikely to change my votes, but I don't quite get the interest here and would like to get it.
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Max is a good lad who has done amazing work for us over the years; much of our best work would not have happened, or been nearly as good, without him (Queekish, obviously, but let me remind you all that the only reason Waaagh and Peace critted and became an amazing paper that spawned a lecture series and catapulted Mathilde to international fame is because of a Max interrupt). Furthermore, he's a good lad who is often quietly in the background, now that his more drama-causing tendencies have calmed down. The last time we spend a social turn on him was Turn 27, 6.5 in-quest years ago and nearly three real-life years ago. We introduced him to the Cult of Vaul here in Laurelorn, and it would be neat to see what came of that.

Is there any rush to see what's up with him? No. There never is. But it makes me happy to spend time on Max even when he isn't busting out mad CF for us or otherwise supporting our career with his quiet diligence. He deserves Mathilde's, and the thread's, appreciation every once in a while.
 
@Boney, if were were to learn Tilean, would we be able to get Tilean books from the Barak Varr booksellers/Back-fill options?
 
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The more we talk about it, the more I want to go to Ulthuan soon, if only open up options on the dark elves deals.

Not necessarily take the deals, but just so our options remain open.
 
Codex said:
Did someone mention... the Bog Octopus?

The deep lore behind this creature fascinates me.
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Interestingly, I think that the 'First Great War' referred to here is the pre-Vortex conflict between the elder races and the daemons. That suggests that Grimblinnder is an elf, given the combination of the location and the terminology.

Liathalissen also sounds like a very elven name. It's also a pretty fascinating title, strongly suggesting that falling stars (which are the source of gromril and warpstone) are also remnants of Old One engineering. If the Library of Mourning has a copy of 'Aethyric Dominion, Falling Stars, Geomantic Construction and other Remnants of the Old Ones' then it might be interesting for Mathilde to read if she has access.

Interestingly, if leylines are liminal paths, the word speculatively translated as [under passages/tunnels] may actually refer to those liminal paths, and the Bog Octopus' 'natural habitat' might be the inside of the Waystone network.

Notably, despite what the quote says, the two passages don't conflict, if the Old Ones disposed of waste through the Geomantic Network.
 
Murazor said:
So, as something of an open question to other voters, can somebody put in words why so many people want the Max option? I am unlikely to change my votes, but I don't quite get the interest here and would like to get it.
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Personally, I have been voting for Max social for ages. He's one of my favorite characters of this quest.
I find him both likable and interesting, and would like to hear more from him, especially about his quest for combining Chamon and dwarf skills, which sounds utterly fascinating.
 
NobodyImportant said:
I recognize most of these, but does anyone know where lindwurms appear in Warhammer?
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Far as I know, nothing is specifically referred to as a Lindwurm aside from it being used in German descriptions of Warhammer to refer to Wyverns, but I imagine there's plenty of creatures that you could classify as such. Far as I know it's just a serpentine wyvern and/or dragon.
 
Tomcost said:
I can't remember. Is there "Old Ones" as a topic to buy books on?
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Andres said:
@Boney, from whom can we acquire books on the Old Ones? The queen and Deathfang mentioned them so Mathilde knows they exist now and giving her some knowledge about them is something I'm interested in, if only to contextualise other stuff.
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Boney said:
Slann, Southlands Slann, Ulthuan, Naggaroth, Athel Loren, Laurelorn, Albion, Cathay, Khuresh, Dragons, Dragon Ogres, Fimir, Prometheans. Though actually getting the books out of them would require varying amounts of effort.
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In theory we could buy books on them from Laurelorn (unless they fall into military relevance), but we are no longer made of money, Old Ones books are unlikely to be directly useful for anything we have going on, and if they are directly useful for Waystones things we can access them from the Library of Mourning even without copying them to KAU.

EDIT: I always love pulling citations for a question about book mechanics, because at that point I am serving as a reference librarian for the thread and also for the in-fiction library.
 
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picklepikkl said:
In theory we could buy books on them from Laurelorn (unless they fall into military relevance), but we are no longer made of money, Old Ones books are unlikely to be directly useful for anything we have going on, and if they are directly useful for Waystones things we can access them from the Library of Mourning even without copying them to KAU.
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Right. Thank you. They are kinda in the background of many things we do, but are not important enough to get books on I think.
 
Codex said:
I like how this entire blurb completely sidesteps Eike's existence. In a story dedicated to Magda Wessen's romantic adventures, an apprentice would only hamper the story's progression.
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I'll be honest, her existence completely skipped my mind, partly because I was working under the impression that the previous 'arc' wouldn't let Magda leave Lorelim for purposes of a consistent, set-in-one-place arc. So Eike didn't have any opportunity to show up on top of not fitting the genre at all.

Maybe we can continue the running joke that she's the one writing this series, far in the future?

Sidenote, I think it's funny I couldn't find Max having an equivalent Magda character. I guess he just doesn't register as very attractive.

Andres said:
I mean, would we get an idea of more normal elf-beast relationships from army books? I feel like there'd be a natural bias towards war beasts in that kind of book. Do we even get that kind of cinnamon roll urge feel from the Empire or Bretonnia books?
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I feel like Kislev at least has a healthy mutual respect with their bears, but I wouldn't put it past Boris & co to engage in silly moments in their private time like hugging their bears and playing in the snow.

picklepikkl said:
Max is a good lad who has done amazing work for us over the years; much of our best work would not have happened, or been nearly as good, without him (Queekish, obviously, but let me remind you all that the only reason Waaagh and Peace critted and became an amazing paper that spawned a lecture series and catapulted Mathilde to international fame is because of a Max interrupt). Furthermore, he's a good lad who is often quietly in the background, now that his more drama-causing tendencies have calmed down. The last time we spend a social turn on him was Turn 27, 6.5 in-quest years ago and nearly three real-life years ago. We introduced him to the Cult of Vaul here in Laurelorn, and it would be neat to see what came of that.

Is there any rush to see what's up with him? No. There never is. But it makes me happy to spend time on Max even when he isn't busting out mad CF for us or otherwise supporting our career with his quiet diligence. He deserves Mathilde's, and the thread's, appreciation every once in a while.
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This reminds me, did Max get a Great Deed from Queekish too?
 
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