Although I agree that the Asrai are capable of extraordinary cruelty on fae-like motivations, I was under the impression that their political leadership agreed that a strong Bretonnia was generally good for them provided they didn't get Ideas. Why would the Glade Lords seek to enrage them, and what are they doing actually entertaining Brettonian envoys in the first place instead of just disappearing anyone who spends too long too deep in the woods?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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The Asrai are no more united than any of the other major polities are. Different Glade Lords will have different opinions on Bretonnia and how deep and friendly they want relations to be with them. Ariel and Orion aren't absolute monarchs, I believe.
A Glade Lord could well see the necessity to work with them but personally despise them as lesser beings that need reminding of their place so take every opportunity for petty cruelty, or see it as a pragmatic way to put Bretonnian diplomats off their game, or simply seen how pages are used in Bretonnian courts and are having lesser fey imitate them, as there aren't enough young elves to do it and you wouldn't have what look like elves act as servants in front of humans anyway.
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Fair enough.
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Fun fact: Chaos Dwarves are not the only ones with submarines:
We just haven't had the occasion to actually see a Nautilus in action. Piloting those things is one of the riskiest jobs in the Karaz Ankor, and they don't get the accolades that Gyrocopter pilots do because they're not nearly as visible.
And to build context on how careful they are about maintaining Neutrality, even for there most hated enemies the Karaz Ankor Dwarves, who as a reminder they despise, they will maintain and extend Neutrality so long as they are within Uzkulak.
Of all the things I expected in Warhammer, sub warfare wasn't one of them.
It does, however, sound Very Cool.
Additionally, Nautilus crews, along with Gyrocopter pilots, are pretty... Intense.
We had to recruit Adela to be our pilot because the dwarf pilots we were using were on the verge of a mental breakdown because they hadn't been able to bomb a single orc.
Now take that attitude, and put it underwater.
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I mean, not quite. They were perfectly fine with using us for training hours.
But we wouldn't be able to get a pilot permanently attached for that reason.
Is it really training if you don't get to test the weapons systems on live targets?
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Hmph! Presumptuous Beardling thinking this is umgak and he'll be flying missions without the required 10,000 hours of pre-combat flight training!Is it really training if you don't get to test the weapons systems on live targets?
And the reason for why Dawi pilots are like that in the first place was explained in the first place as the training towards being a pilot along with the structure of the organization encouraging these trends for one particular goal as noted in the post below. Which is also likely why Nautilus crews are likely selected for a similar purpose.
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They aren't a secret
Sure the average Imperial citizen doesn't know about them, owing to distance more than anything, but they aren't a conspiracy
To anyone to whom knowing about Chaos Dwarves is important, they know about them
Every caravan travelling the Silk Road has to scoot past the Chaos Dwarves
Qrech is literally writing entire books on the subject of Chaos Dwarves under his pen name Quirin, and having those books published in libraries all around the Empire
The Dwarves, for their part, really dislike ever talking about the Chaos Dwarves with others, but they acknowledge that it isn't reasonable to demand that humans kindly pretend they don't exist when they're literally supplying Daemon Canons to Chaos hordes
Incorrect
Sorceress's have access to spells from all 8 Winds of Magic
Not just their unique Dark Magic lore
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Okay, this probably going to get me yelled at by several people, but I just had a thought—could we do Druchii diplomacy actions as WEB-MAT action with Egrimm.
He's the same rank as us, has similar intrigue and diplomacy to us, is fairly flexible in his morals—especially if we frame it as exploiting and stealing from the Druchii—and it would be an interesting show of force to send two high ranked mages, one light, one grey, to these negotiations.
Combine it with the Deceiver coin, and trick the Druchii into giving up more than they intended too, only to swing over to the Asur and demand a counteroffer (preferably one that includes Teclis and the ability to persist with the Waystone project).
Best of all, as a WEB-MAT action, it's AP efficient.
also we get to scare Egrimm quest with our spooky grey wizard back room deals
He's the same rank as us, has similar intrigue and diplomacy to us, is fairly flexible in his morals—especially if we frame it as exploiting and stealing from the Druchii—and it would be an interesting show of force to send two high ranked mages, one light, one grey, to these negotiations.
Combine it with the Deceiver coin, and trick the Druchii into giving up more than they intended too, only to swing over to the Asur and demand a counteroffer (preferably one that includes Teclis and the ability to persist with the Waystone project).
Best of all, as a WEB-MAT action, it's AP efficient.
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There is a path that generally bypasses the Chaos Dwarves, but that involves going through the Plain of Bones, so most travellers will likely pass through either the Desolation of Azgorh, Howling Wastes, around the Plains of Zharr or across the Zorn Uzkul. All of which have a Chorf presence.
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Doesn't that one still have you going by the Black Fortress?
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Not if you go through the Haunted Forest from Pigbarter
I wonder what the chaos dawi think about the resurgence Karak Ankor. On one hand there enemy is getting more powerful, on the other hand there is a increase in trade making the chaos Dawi richer.
Speaking of trade designing a bridge using rite of way will be fun. I personally think we should codify it so we can get the college to help build it. Maybe trade for a teacher or first see what they offer. Also building the bridge/road will prove the current elf government right. The money will also help maybe pulling elves out of elf poverty.
Speaking of trade designing a bridge using rite of way will be fun. I personally think we should codify it so we can get the college to help build it. Maybe trade for a teacher or first see what they offer. Also building the bridge/road will prove the current elf government right. The money will also help maybe pulling elves out of elf poverty.
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Somehow, I don't think Egrimm will be particularly amused to have his time as our employee be laundered to do something that is more general and politically sensitive. It's even less justifiable than him learning Nehekharan because it's not research or Waystone related.
Like, on top of concerns of how doable this is, ethical concerns, and what he would contribute to it. We don't actually know what his Intrigue score is, only his diplomacy.
Most of the time, they'll likely just roll with it, but it's not any enemy- it's the Everpeak *specifically*.
Ergo, most likely, *furious*.
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I still think we should learn Anoqeyån if we're planning on doing spell collaboration with elf wizards. Sure, we might be able to clunkily pull things together with only Eltharin and bits of Lingua Praestantia, but things would probably be significantly smoother if both parties could share a technical language. Boney purposefully left the methods for getting an Anoqeyån teacher open-ended, but maybe we could ask Sarvoi as a start (to see if he or someone he knows would be willing to accept a favor or something in exchange for teaching us)?
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I don't think we have AP to actually use anything Druch gives us. They will just go to our backlog to be examined and well...
Like we are already behind in our back log. Getting acces to even more backlog from Druchi won't make things better for anybody.
Like we are already behind in our back log. Getting acces to even more backlog from Druchi won't make things better for anybody.
That could be step zero of collaborating to codify Rite of Way if the Queen agrees to the proposal to build the towers.
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We can just give what we get to the grey college and if they get something out of it, it would make things better for everyone.
Hey now, it's not like it was my idea.
It was Queen Marrisith's idea. Blame her if you want to blame anyone.