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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
The current level of revelation means that readers are equally free to imagine a Mathilde that blushes her way out of the room, and one that takes a moment to compose herself, reopens the cabinet, and starts filling a sack with esoteric plunder. Coming right out and saying that she's taking it all home with her would only be worthwhile if I'm going to follow through on describing how she uses it, and that would be rather a tonal shift from what's already established here. And though I think SV's rules would allow it if tagged and spoilered appropriately (having a smutty interlude between the protagonist and her long-term partner 880k words into a story would certainly seem to count as 'part of a larger body of work') I don't think a lot of SV posters are actually aware that that's within the rules, and I don't fancy the drama of being seen as a major precedent setter.
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I don't know if it was this thread or another one where I've said it before, but in case it was another one I'll say it here.

I appreciate the fact that you don't actually put smutty stuff in. References and implications to things happening "off screen" like what has been the case so far I don't care about, but were it to come "on screen" I'd probably just stop reading. I don't come to SV to read that sort of thing, and I always appreciate it when authors choose to leave those sorts of details up to the reader.
 
Pi In The Sky said:
I don't know if it was this thread or another one where I've said it before, but in case it was another one I'll say it here.

I appreciate the fact that you don't actually put smutty stuff in. References and implications to things happening "off screen" like what has been the case so far I don't care about, but were it to come "on screen" I'd probably just stop reading. I don't come to SV to read that sort of thing, and I always appreciate it when authors choose to leave those sorts of details up to the reader.
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You realise that unless it's plot relevant, SV is the type of site where if the story isn't set as mature, it would have to be tagged and spoilered and probably placed somewhere other than the main threadmark? It's perfectly possible to skip smut if it's not central to the story.
 
Boney said:
No, you'd basically need to controlled demolition the entire mountain into rubble to achieve that, and the miners don't have that much explosives. It's possible Zhufbar doesn't have that much explosives.
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What if as a future action Mathilde hires Zhufbar, K8P, Vlag, to quarry the whole mountain, top to bottom! No need for demolition of perfectly serviceable roadblocks.

It would also be quite a monument to her victory, and perhaps a few paintings could be Commissioned showing her overseeing dwarves labouring too.
 
Fehu said:
What if as a future action Mathilde hires Zhufbar, K8P, Vlag, to quarry the whole mountain, top to bottom! No need for demolition of perfectly serviceable roadblocks.

It would also be quite a monument to her victory, and perhaps a few paintings could be Commissioned showing her overseeing dwarves labouring too.
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Dwarves don't like destroying an entire mountain unless it has a Grudge against it. Mountains are their natural territory, the wasteland left by quarrying one into oblivion is the natural territory of gribblies.
 
Fehu said:
What if as a future action Mathilde hires Zhufbar, K8P, Vlag, to quarry the whole mountain, top to bottom! No need for demolition of perfectly serviceable roadblocks.

It would also be quite a monument to her victory, and perhaps a few paintings could be Commissioned showing her overseeing dwarves labouring too.
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A) we definitely don't have enough gold to "hire" them all. B) their still gearing up for mount silverspear so i doubt they would do anything that big until that's done and sorted... And even then i think they would not do it. Just too much effort for too little reward.
 
I was so sure there were mountains in the Mountains of Mourne that ate other mountains, but perhaps I was just confusing the Mount Thug lore, the Ogres eating a "mountain's heart" lore, and the Age of Sigmar lore where mountains and even continents in Ghur are sentient and eat each other.
 
Tobtorp said:
... Is there a mountain with a grudge on it? And if yes, what that mountain do?
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Mount Thug in the Mountains of Mourne does this:

"The infamous Mount Thug is enormous in scale, a huge and forbidding peak that stretches far above the clouds. It is widely regarded by the Ogres as a living thing, because those foolish or brave enough to attempt to scale its glacial sides are usually buried under hundreds of tonnes of boulders and wet snow before they leave the lower slopes. To the denizens of the Ogre Kingdoms, this is how the mountain feeds on its victims - jaws of jagged rock closing on those that dare to rouse it from its sleep. Even the sounds of a pick impacting on the vertical face of a glacier is enough to send an aspiring climber to an icy tomb, so any Ogre who dares challenge the mountain is forced to do so with his bare hands. It is seen as a feat of great prowess to reach the upper slopes of Thug, and any who do so inevitably go on to become Tyrant of their tribe.

A more learned observer might comment upon how the usual shape of Thug could lead to a greater number of avelanches than usual, and how this could lead to its daunting reputation in a primitive society. But the Ogres know the truth - Mount Thug is as malevolent as it is vast."

I imagine if the Dwarves inherited the Book of Grudges of the MoM Karaks, they'll find some on the occasional mountain.
 
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Boney said:
IIRC there's lore somewhere of a mountain getting a Grudge against it because there was a landslide that killed a princess or something and the Dwarves had no other way of processing that tragedy, so they quarried it to death.
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This was mentioned a while ago in a thread conversation, though I couldn't find anyone providing a source (tbf I didn't search very hard):
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As I recall the story, there was a rockslide during a battle with orcs that turned a sure thing into a near thing. The dwarfs, sensibly, decided the mountain needed to pay for its transgressions and turned a peak into a gravel pit.
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You can follow the quote chain to see some other posters talking about it.

The idea that the grudge was a way to process the tragedy is, I believe, original to the thread:
Garlak said:
Although I suppose it could be true. That it's an example that if Dwarfs suffer tragedy or are hurt badly, then those emotions need to be addressed or worked out someway. And so in one situation, the elders decided to take out all the aggression and sorrow on the mountain, as it made for a harmless outlet that wouldn't hurt anybody.
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Boney said:
It does sound like a useful cultural pressure valve. No need for anyone to blame themselves or each other after the battle almost went so badly, it's the mountain's fault for intruding on their battle. And there might be genuine strategic benefits to it if the battle took place close to their Hold and there was a reasonable chance of having to fight there again in the future, removing unsure ground and replacing it with nice clear firing lines.
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mathymancer said:
This was mentioned a while ago in a thread conversation, though I couldn't find anyone providing a source (tbf I didn't search very hard):

You can follow the quote chain to see some other posters talking about it.

The idea that the grudge was a way to process the tragedy is, I believe, original to the thread:
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It's probably a better interpretation than what the initial intent behind the story likely was, which was to make us look at the Dwarves and go "how silly of them". That was the rationale behind a great deal of a lot of the older lore.
 
Where is [] [DODGY SEX TOYS]? They would do nicely for the Manharok cult - if you want an in with the establishment then dodgy sex toy that they can pretend are just prestigious historical curios are just the thing.
 
noliar said:
Where is [] [DODGY SEX TOYS]? They would do nicely for the Manharok cult - if you want an in with the establishment then dodgy sex toy that they can pretend are just prestigious historical curios are just the thing.
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I regret to inform you that we live in a society. A Sigmarite Society to be specific (they encourage abstinence and dislike premarital sex). Parading around Isabella's closet is likely to reduce their legitimacy rather than enhance it.
 
mathymancer said:
This was mentioned a while ago in a thread conversation, though I couldn't find anyone providing a source (tbf I didn't search very hard):

You can follow the quote chain to see some other posters talking about it.

The idea that the grudge was a way to process the tragedy is, I believe, original to the thread:
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It's also worth noting, the text of the grudge is something like "until the rocks of the pass are dust".

It's not actually about leveling the mountain or anything, just clearing the pass. Which they were probably going to do anyway.
 
noliar said:
Where is [] [DODGY SEX TOYS]? They would do nicely for the Manharok cult - if you want an in with the establishment then dodgy sex toy that they can pretend are just prestigious historical curios are just the thing.
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We're going to come back in 10 years time looking for some very specific and very embarrassing ritual components, mark my words.
 
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Codex said:
I regret to inform you that we live in a society. A Sigmarite Society to be specific (they encourage abstinence and dislike premarital sex). Parading around Isabella's closet is likely to reduce their legitimacy rather than enhance it.
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"Historical curios I say! Evidence that those antiquated pagan rotters were morally inferior to modern, clean minded, orthodox society. Nobody here would dream of making working copies for their own use - how dare you!" ;)
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
I wonder if the bedsheets are valuable as enchanting materials.
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I was thinking we could do with a Banner.

As far as the Ring goes, if ever we want to buckle down and pull a way to permakill or even just passively suppress Vampire recovery out of our hats, studying the way the foremost tool that does the opposite of our intended result would seem to be a useful line of research.
 
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Relics of the Von Carsteins
  • Apocrypha
    • "Tragedy!

    The whole of Altdorf stand shocked today after an unprecedented attack on the grand cathedral of Sigmar. The vile undead had dared strike at the heart of Sigmar's empire!. the devastation among the ranks of the church has stalled any official commentary as of yet, but rumors speak of a pale woman seen leaving the Cathedral in the company of a skeleton servants carrying an ornate sarcophagus.

    Some of the doomsayers that plague the city even dare claim that this is Isabella von carstein herself, come to rescue her loathsome beloved. preposterous I say, all know that the the pair had been struck down, never to rise again, by the grace of Sigmar and his grand theologist."

    -the Altdorf daily

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    "Join the Stirland Army today!

    Your Countess call on all able bodied souls of Stirland to enlist today and drive the scourge of the Von Carstein from eastern Stirland.

    Thanks to the foresight of Roswita Van Hal, the resugent vampire threat had been stalled after only taking Castle Darkenhof and the city of the same name, gone are the days where the vampire can claim ruleship on the territory rightfully belonging to the Province of Stirland.

    Even as our army hold the undead plague at bay, the armies of the empire muster once more, unlike the last vampire wars, Sigmar's empire stand united! we will crush the vile progenitors of the this accursed vampiric line.

    Scattered reports from refugee of the fall of Drakenhof report that Vlad Von Carstein himself, the accursed Count of former Sylvania, had been scouring the city in search of what is believed to be a powerful artifact that had been stolen from his castle. Rejoice, for no more will he cheat death so easily as he did before. Now is the time to strike before he can regain his unholy might, now is the time to carry once more the torch of the late Hunter Count, led by his own daughter.

    Enlist now! Stirland wants you to help crush the Vampire Menace!"

    -A Stirlandian recruitment pamphlet given to town criers across the province.

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    "Reiksmarshal report that siege preparation on Drakenhof will be ready in two months time, the forces of Stirland, Ostermark and Talabecland under the combined leadership of Stirland's EC are to commence the siege with springbreak. the mobilization of the rest of the armies in pursuit of the Vampire host led by Isabella von carstein will take a little more time, even with the Karaz Ankor support, the armies supply chain are not yet ready to supply the forces thought the World Edge Mountains.

    No progress on figuring out why overall command is under Isabella instead of Vlad, despite his present in the force.


    Chamberlain report that king Thorgrim has already started setting out supply chains for our armies, having the fourth war start on his turf must had lit a fire under his ass throne, we can expect full muster of the Holds to join our armies march south, Thorgrim also passed along that according to the most recent report from Zhufbar ranger guild, Isabella host remain steady on it projected course, Karak Eight Peak.


    Supreme Patriarch part was the most illuminating, after contacting the World Ed WEB-MAT(?), he believe that the most likely target is a secret research project led by LM Mathilde Weber (Mathilde... MAT... weber... did, did she really name the entire bloody) Wizards... according to her, the target is a classified Artifact taken from underneath Drakenhof during an scouring operation that hold an importance to the Vampire progenitors, attempt for further information had met with some stalling, aside from the information that it is a current research project under the dual custodianship of the Grey and Jade order.


    Spymaster attempt to discover the Artifact nature had borne some success, an eyewitness account from the Drakenhof refugees had been confirmed, according to what he heard, spoken from the mouth of Isabella herself, the Artifact in question is a "Important relic of our first joining", most likely meaning from Vlad and Isabella marriage, could it be that WEB MAT had found the fabled Von Casterin ring? no other option had been found yet.

    He also report of the likely identity of the Jade research on the artifact, one Panoramia, a jade wizard, had been been heard in a halfing inn to drunkenly declare that Isabella can have the thing over her cold and stiff body.

    Heidi had contacts with LM Weber before, tried asking her if she know what the artifact was, she only laughed and said she consulted a common friend, but he don't know of any magical properties in the artifact that might have inspired such a reaction from the Von Casterin. worrying.

    -His majesty handwritten notes, taken from the most recent Council of State during the fourth Vampiric war.
     
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  • Apocrypha
    • Put in spoilers because it's a bit... specific
    Has anyone else considered that it might have been Vlad that "Held The Blade," as it were? Not sure if vampires can... raise up, and Isabella was alive at the start of their marriage
     
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