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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Speaking of the We I wonder if they realized why we wanted that dead Egg Layer, the one we took in for dissection yet. I mean it has to be an odd feeling to be studied like that as part of your first interaction with a first alien species. I hope they did not conclude that meant they should ask for dead dwarfs humans and halflings to study. That would have been an awkward conversation.
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
Man, this is going to be the most organised library ever. Bookcases that can be freely rearranged as more books come in? That's huge—at the bookshop I work in, I would kill for the ability to add more shelf space. Librarians that have a perfect knowledge of where every book is at all times? That's literally more accurate than the digital catalogue system we use, and I've been asked to work until midnight later this week to help update it.
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Hmmm - no, I would not say they would have perfect knowledge. Remembering things take calories, they're going to use the cataloguing system like everyone else.

But with perfect coordination, they can use it really, really fast.
TimEd said:
Din't forget that despite what we see of the We, they only really had the numbers to have a hivemind big enough to process complex thought after Mathilde met them.
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That's not true either, though - ignorance isn't stupidity, after all. It's not that they had no complex thought, it's that they'd never had another person to talk to - other than other spiders, that is, and even then only very rarely. What reason to contemplate organizations of thousands of individuals would they have ever had?
 
Codex said:
Well, I do like the We, so I can't say I'm massively disappointed. I'm sure things will turn out interesting and amusing, Boney's writing it after all. Only worry I have is having to decipher the We's method of speech. I've always struggled to understand what they mean sometimes. That is part of their charm though.
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Well, one of my most-reacted-to posts of all time is "deciphering the We's interaction with Mathilde last time we saw them for a social action", so from a selfish react-farming perspective, this is likely to work out well for me :p
Prime 2.0 said:
Hmmm - no, I would not say they would have perfect knowledge. Remembering things take calories, they're going to use the cataloguing system like everyone else.

But with perfect coordination, they can use it really, really fast.
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Yeah, Boney said that their memory isn't eidetic or magical, they need to store stuff in long-term memory like other races and their long-term memory is comparably fallible, which is why they love books so much. In the state of nature, when the We forget something, it's gone forever from their Echo, which is like dying a little. Now they can write it down and check again later.

I think that once the We learn how a library catalog works, it will be their new favorite thing in the world. Now you don't even have to remember what external memory sources you have! You can just look them up extremely quickly and spend all your memory on other things! And because the We's cost of communication between its various bodies is very low, they can have a body on permanent standby at the catalog to handle any lookups patrons need and relay them to the bodies actually interacting with the patrons, and this is scalable as the library grows in usage. It's probably not going to reach "research librarian with computerized catalog" speeds, but it will be damn faster than anything short of that.

By the way, Boney, I asked this a few days ago and I think it got missed in the shuffle. Not gonna @ ping because you're currently writing, but wanted to give it a bump for eventual answer.
picklepikkl said:
Boney, quick question. I am going to assume that "letting us know ahead of time which Waystone project actions have been unlocked, and which categories they fall in," is not likely to happen given your QMing style. Would it be possible for T39 to have a longer than usual moratorium, since preplanning is less of an option and we'll probably have a ton of questions for you about the new options? Or is this something you think will probably just sort itself out fine without changing anything?
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It just occurred to me that Mathilde is likely to present the book on Windsoak mushrooms just before she drops all new Orbs of Sorcery on the Colleges, they are going to looks like connected results into studies on the winds in general, even though they really are not. So first would be that journeyman level stuff that can be grown naturally and then the master level super powerstone. Maybe there will even be a rumor that we have some kind of super-mushroom that can grow Orbs on a schedule, but for some reason it is too dangerous for export... well that or we are just greedy and keeping the super mushroom to ourselves. :V
 
picklepikkl said:
By the way, Boney, I asked this a few days ago and I think it got missed in the shuffle. Not gonna @ ping because you're currently writing, but wanted to give it a bump for eventual answer.
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picklepikkl said:
Boney, quick question. I am going to assume that "letting us know ahead of time which Waystone project actions have been unlocked, and which categories they fall in," is not likely to happen given your QMing style. Would it be possible for T39 to have a longer than usual moratorium, since preplanning is less of an option and we'll probably have a ton of questions for you about the new options? Or is this something you think will probably just sort itself out fine without changing anything?
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It's very likely I'll have a longer-than-usual moratorium for that vote.
 
DragonParadox said:
It just occurred to me that Mathilde is likely to present the book on Windsoak mushrooms just before she drops all new Orbs of Sorcery on the Colleges, they are going to looks like connected results into studies on the winds in general, even though they really are not. So first would be that journeyman level stuff that can be grown naturally and then the master level super powerstone. Maybe there will even be a rumor that we have some kind of super-mushroom that can grow Orbs on a schedule, but for some reason it is too dangerous for export... well that or we are just greedy and keeping the super mushroom to ourselves. :V
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Mathilde should pull a "Pasta grows on tree" hoax and invite some Magisters to view her Orb-Fungi farms.

Honestly it'd be a good way to keep the AV secret for longer.
 
DragonParadox said:
It just occurred to me that Mathilde is likely to present the book on Windsoak mushrooms just before she drops all new Orbs of Sorcery on the Colleges, they are going to looks like connected results into studies on the winds in general, even though they really are not. So first would be that journeyman level stuff that can be grown naturally and then the master level super powerstone. Maybe there will even be a rumor that we have some kind of super-mushroom that can grow Orbs on a schedule, but for some reason it is too dangerous for export... well that or we are just greedy and keeping the super mushroom to ourselves. :V
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Your talk of super mushrooms has only enflamed my desire to see Super Mario powerups in Warhammer. I think I've already established the possibility that Mario is an Elementalist. I wonder if we can hire him for a little experimentation...
 
Dragonofelder said:
Mathilde should pull a "Pasta grows on tree" hoax and invite some Magisters to view her Orb-Fungi farms.

Honestly it'd be a good way to keep the AV secret for longer.
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Just have a couple of *slightly* enlarged powerstones buried under the mushrooms that she can dig up and show off all entangled in the mycelium lol.

Codex said:
Your talk of super mushrooms has only enflamed my desire to see Super Mario powerups in Warhammer. I think I've already established the possibility that Mario is an Elementalist. I wonder if we can hire him for a little experimentation...
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Well, assuming he *was* an elementalist, I believe Boney's listed response to us asking about hiring an elementalist was that any elementalist hearing a grey order lord magister wanted to hire them would suddenly remember an urgent appointment on the other side of the continent.
 
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Codex said:
Your talk of super mushrooms has only enflamed my desire to see Super Mario powerups in Warhammer. I think I've already established the possibility that Mario is an Elementalist. I wonder if we can hire him for a little experimentation...
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It's a possibility, but he could also be a Damsel equivalent multi wind user considering his usage of Aqshy and Ghur(and anything else I'm forgetting because I haven't actually played that much Mario since like 3 or World or so). Further study and experimentation is warranted.
 
consequences said:
It's a possibility, but he could also be a Damsel equivalent multi wind user considering his usage of Aqshy and Ghur(and anything else I'm forgetting because I haven't actually played that much Mario since like 3 or World or so). Further study and experimentation is warranted.
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He could be, but most of his powers are elemental. You can argue that some of the newer games give him more exotic powers like Hat Posession and animal transformations, but I theorise that a suitably enchanted fursuit can provide the necessary impetus for those abilities.
 
consequences said:
It's a possibility, but he could also be a Damsel equivalent multi wind user considering his usage of Aqshy and Ghur(and anything else I'm forgetting because I haven't actually played that much Mario since like 3 or World or so). Further study and experimentation is warranted.
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If Mario is a Elementalist, what is Browser? A fecked up Dragon Ogre? A turtle-saurus?
 
picklepikkl said:
Yeah, Boney said that their memory isn't eidetic or magical, they need to store stuff in long-term memory like other races and their long-term memory is comparably fallible, which is why they love books so much. In the state of nature, when the We forget something, it's gone forever from their Echo, which is like dying a little. Now they can write it down and check again later.
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Do they really have fallible memory?
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere in this thread that they long-term memory is Egglayers and it is very good. The problems We have with memory is that they can only sustain a certain amount of Egglayers without running out of food. So We had to keep that precarious memory/food balance by choosing what to remember and what to not. And books solve this problem, because it's literally free memory slot without calories upkeep.

I could be wrong though, this was some time ago.
 
DragonParadox said:
It just occurred to me that Mathilde is likely to present the book on Windsoak mushrooms just before she drops all new Orbs of Sorcery on the Colleges, they are going to looks like connected results into studies on the winds in general, even though they really are not. So first would be that journeyman level stuff that can be grown naturally and then the master level super powerstone. Maybe there will even be a rumor that we have some kind of super-mushroom that can grow Orbs on a schedule, but for some reason it is too dangerous for export... well that or we are just greedy and keeping the super mushroom to ourselves. :V
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That almost makes me want to hold back the Chamon and Shyish stones. It would be a bit mean though. There's letting people make assumptions, and there's outright deceiving people who're really allies.
 
Wiggy said:
Well, assuming he *was* an elementalist, I believe Boney's listed response to us asking about hiring an elementalist was that any elementalist hearing a grey order lord magister wanted to hire them would suddenly remember an urgent appointment on the other side of the continent.
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Yep, exactly. And Mat despises Elementalists, because they're not willing to dedicate their life to protecting the Empire.
Boney said:
it is extremely likely that any Elementalist that is approached about an exciting opportunity to work directly with a Lord Magister of the Grey Order will suddenly remember an extremely urgent appointment they had on the opposite side of the continent.
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Some grumbly old Magister: "Orbs of Sorcery don't just grow on trees, yanno!"

Mathilde about to drop the dankest prank in the history of Sigmar's empire: "Oh, haven't you heard?"
 
Say, on the matter of the AV book:

Is that something we want to be the sole author of, or is it something we want to co-write?

Being the sole author is of course a greater power move, but co-writing could mean better writing rolls, if I'm understanding the mechanics right.
 
LadyLynn said:
Say, on the matter of the AV book:

Is that something we want to be the sole author of, or is it something we want to co-write?

Being the sole author is of course a greater power move, but co-writing could mean better writing rolls, if I'm understanding the mechanics right.
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If you're talking about using Max, then he's not a co-writer. We don't get shared credit penalties for having him write for us, because he's seen as a mouthpiece essentially, not a contributor to the actual research. And also because he's a subordinate.
 
DragonParadox said:
They might be persuaded to serve as backup to particularly sensitive ones though.
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I don't think that's a good idea. We voted against romacing the We, so having it recite Mathilde's smut novels to her would be inappropriate.

I do like the mental image. A future split of librawe who works as Mathilde's writeslave personal assistant. We'll call it Si-We. It's the sort of punny name that fits right into warhammer. And so Mathilde can be lulled to sleep by the dulcet tones of a giant telepathic spider.
 
Codex said:
If you're talking about using Max, then he's not a co-writer. We don't get shared credit penalties for having him write for us, because he's seen as a mouthpiece essentially, not a contributor to the actual research. And also because he's a subordinate.
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We really should spend a social on Max sometime, he's been a real big help and he doesn't get that much screen time for it.
 
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