Remember when we tried to get him to help us against the orcs on the reasoning that they would be a threat to him.... yeah didn't work. Odds are this would not either because what most humans consider survivable levels of magic and what he considers survivable are not the same.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Remember when we tried to get him to help us against the orcs on the reasoning that they would be a threat to him.... yeah didn't work. Odds are this would not either because what most humans consider survivable levels of magic and what he considers survivable are not the same.
Here's the specific passage for those who are interested:
An "octahedron" with "eight vents" sure sounds a lot like the foundation star of a waystone to me.
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Maybe, I tend to throw out ideas and rarely use them.
Maybe a story where Mathilde is a daughter of Ranald? That could be interesting.
Pfft, I already have an idea for who one of the trainers could be: Abhorash.
Reading over that update I get the impression that it's a pretty big construction, and he might need to minimize it for it to be used in the Waystones. But yeah, that's definitely promising. Might be worth looking into.
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[X] College Dispensation
Harder, but clearer.
Harder, but clearer.
He arguably over-engineered it, either because he was working from first principles, because of safety issues, because he was subjecting an Anvil of Doom to the AV, or simply because he's a dwarf. If he iterates it a miniaturised version may be possible to develop.
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I'm going to put out a request to the thread loremasters (or Boney if he wants to step in) here. I distinctly remember a post from Boney about how Mathilde's level of exposure/experience is very unusual because she has piggybacked off two different special dispensations when the colleges are very careful to only hand out one to a wizard but my google-fu is failing me here. I think it might have been back during the brief discussion of Mathilde writing a book on Dhar when we got the Dhar trait but I'm not completely certain on that.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
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I'd be interested in reading that🙃
dinomannitro6
all your gender is belong to us
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its not an absolute prohibition on multiple dispensations
edit: how well known is our belt's ability to burn off Dhar? (or more specifically by Algard and Dragomas?) If we have no danger of suffering from acclimated exposure, and by virtue of being a LM are trusted not to touch the bad magic, we might be in one of the best positions to get multiple permission slips.
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[X] College Dispensation
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Thank you. I tend to skip over story posts when looking for this stuff which did not work out for me here. In this case it also looks like I misremembered slightly.
"Almost never" is close enough to never, although I suspect the Waystone situation is unique enough and Mathilde respected enough that this would be one of the exceptions.
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I figure most magisters never get, or ask, a dispensation, those who ask rarely get it, extremely few get it more than once.
But if you can't be allowed into a group project with multiple Lord/Lady Magisters looking over your shoulder, then when would you?
Especially when one of those L. Magisters is a grey, who have carefully cultivated reputation for specifically keeping magisters honest.
But if you can't be allowed into a group project with multiple Lord/Lady Magisters looking over your shoulder, then when would you?
Especially when one of those L. Magisters is a grey, who have carefully cultivated reputation for specifically keeping magisters honest.
What an amazing update. You can feel how deep is the lore and research.
[X] Imperial Dispensation
We probably won't get to talk with the Emperor himself, but we might. Plus, it solidifies our backing and isolates us from potential political backlash within the colleges. And I wouldn't mind doing Heidi or the Emperor a favor if needed, helping allies is helping ourselves.
And I wouldn't think that Dragomas would be too miffed that we saved him paperwork and headaches.
But ultimately, I just expect an imperial dispensation to be "better" than a college one. In the future, if we need to to sketchy things, having approval from the emperor might get us much less oversight and more autority.
[X] Imperial Dispensation
We probably won't get to talk with the Emperor himself, but we might. Plus, it solidifies our backing and isolates us from potential political backlash within the colleges. And I wouldn't mind doing Heidi or the Emperor a favor if needed, helping allies is helping ourselves.
And I wouldn't think that Dragomas would be too miffed that we saved him paperwork and headaches.
But ultimately, I just expect an imperial dispensation to be "better" than a college one. In the future, if we need to to sketchy things, having approval from the emperor might get us much less oversight and more autority.
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[X] Imperial Dispensation
You know what, after thinking on it, If Alric isn't joining our project now, i doubt he'd be willing to pay a price after hearing were studying dhar so maybe he'll try to join us later on when we get results of our project that are undeniable.
Changed my mind on trying to get stuff from Alric as it just doesn't make sense for him to suddenly want in on the project now just because we got the go ahead to study possible dhar phenomenom related to the waystones and ya keeping a downlow to attract less attention to the project until we actually bring results like fixing waystones or whatnot seems reasnoble to avoid detractor's and full fledge potential leaks to chaos or the high elves of Ulthuan.
Maybe Alric comes later when we have results and want's in on a peace of the pie of glory, tell him to get us elector count's approval, restricted libraries, or the cults of Tal & Rhya's approval/priests for the project to soothe the soft betrayal of Mira would be something i'm down for later if he approaches us later on.
You know what, after thinking on it, If Alric isn't joining our project now, i doubt he'd be willing to pay a price after hearing were studying dhar so maybe he'll try to join us later on when we get results of our project that are undeniable.
Changed my mind on trying to get stuff from Alric as it just doesn't make sense for him to suddenly want in on the project now just because we got the go ahead to study possible dhar phenomenom related to the waystones and ya keeping a downlow to attract less attention to the project until we actually bring results like fixing waystones or whatnot seems reasnoble to avoid detractor's and full fledge potential leaks to chaos or the high elves of Ulthuan.
Maybe Alric comes later when we have results and want's in on a peace of the pie of glory, tell him to get us elector count's approval, restricted libraries, or the cults of Tal & Rhya's approval/priests for the project to soothe the soft betrayal of Mira would be something i'm down for later if he approaches us later on.
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You know I was just thinking about Dhar and elves and it occurred to me.... we could totally teach the Eonir the Second Secret, assuming we found one we trusted enough to put our life in their hands by admiring with read the LM. Elves are a lot harder to affect with Dhar and the Eonir themselves have cultural reasons not to reach deeply into it like the Druchi while at the same time being more than skilled enough to set off that chain reaction with minimal Dhar contact.
As allies of the Empire they could make necromantic threats so much more manageable... still we are far indeed from that level of trust.
As allies of the Empire they could make necromantic threats so much more manageable... still we are far indeed from that level of trust.
Imperial Dispensation is explicitly speaking directly to the Emperor instead of his magical councillor, who is also our boss and also (maybe?) a dragon.
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[X] Imperial Dispensation
Alric smalrick, I don't think he's gonna come swinging in to ruin our day with College, but in general everything in me screams it's best to make this as "need to know" as possible
Alric smalrick, I don't think he's gonna come swinging in to ruin our day with College, but in general everything in me screams it's best to make this as "need to know" as possible
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This needs to be added to the tread tags.
Arguably, Alric, Algard, Feldmann, and Paranoth "need to know" that their wizards have permission from the Emperor to break Article 7.
Imagine how pissed someone like Starke would be if someone came to him and accused us of breaking Article 7, and when he investigated he found that it was both true and we had gotten permission in secret behind the Grey Order's back. If we do it through the colleges instead, he'll be able to ask Algard about it, and Algard will be able to tell him it's all above board.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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Not sure that size will really matter. "We have to build them bigger" feels like the kind of thing everyone would be ok with.
It was there for a while. Boney prunes the tags every now and again so it isn't just memes.
How anyone will know though? The whole point going straight to the Emperor is that no one will be needed to report anything. We get dispensation. We (hopefully will be allowed to) explain things to Dragomas after the fact, so he will not be obliged to notify others. And we tell our researchers about dispensation. After that, the fact that we are studying Dhar will be omitted from any report.
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The goal of the waystone project is to make a comprehensive understanding of how waystones works. I don't think we can really escape from explaining that Dhar will be a core mechanic on how they function, if we want to write down how to make more of them. I'm fairly certain by the end of this, Dhar will be know by most of the important cults and goverment functions of the empire
The difference I think, it's that they will know after we've done it and have an understanding of it (and they can do nothing to interfere with the WP cause it'll be done)