K von Carstein
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What. The. Warp?!
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Definitely not what I wanted but not as bad as I feared.
i can live with that.
Mmm, the fact that he has a hidden fifth facet means that he can't ever be a god of magic because an extra facet would put him at 6.
And suddenly why Slaanesh herself would become involved should he had massively won the fight against Mork makes a lot more sense.
i can live with that.
Mmm, the fact that he has a hidden fifth facet means that he can't ever be a god of magic because an extra facet would put him at 6.
And suddenly why Slaanesh herself would become involved should he had massively won the fight against Mork makes a lot more sense.
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Keeping secrets aside would this give us something to be smug about in front of deathfang
And more importantly
Should we hide the painting
And more importantly
Should we hide the painting
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It kind of is different unless the children are part of Ranald and Shayalla godliness though? Are the children their own gods or what?
Yeah boney pointed this out and I explained why I felt this was different.
This isn't something old and uncertain the truth lost to time with multiple contradicting versions. This is more like it being revealed that Sigmar has offspring.
The old and historical stuff was new and fresh to someone at some point, probably one or more high priests/prophets. Mathilde is kind of like that right now only told to shut up rather than spread the word.
Unless this is Ranald launching a takeover attempt on a couple of other goddesses by beginning a process to redefine them as being his and Shallya's children.
It could also be an attempt to define his relationship with Shallya by changing how the population at large sees it.
Being a conscious story that is aware of how their own nature is reflexive would be a a very peculiar state of affairs, but not an impossible one. People consciously try to change who they are quite frequently, this would just be a particularly convoluted way of doing it.
I doubt Boney is going that route though.
Codex
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Also the fact that Ranald is canonically genderfluid in DL and it's just been confirmed for sure that Shallya and Ranald are a thing in DL and it's not just Mathilde shipping them, I can say the following and not be wrong, which makes me elated:
I love my genderfluid dad and their bisexual wife.
I love my genderfluid dad and their bisexual wife.
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- Canada
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- He/Him
Unless the residual energy from Ranald transforming the painting is permanent I imagine we can leave it where it is because of how well hidden his daughters are. Most people looking at the painting would see it as an artist rendition, one that's either inacurate or more metaphorical.
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Ain't nobody got the Ranald Favor for that.
*ponders Eike thoughtfully*
*puts a checkmark in the 'possibly not actually Ranald's daughter all along' column*
The Illuminati that can be narced on is not the true and eternal Illuminati.
After a least one aspect of him anyway. I had pondered the symmetry of her, Eike, and Mathilde being the mortal incarnation of one of his kids as the Mother, Maiden, and Other One, but the deity speculation overtook my idle musings by the time I caught up to the 'now' of the thread.
*puts a checkmark in the 'possibly actually Ranald's daughter all along' column*
K von Carstein
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Everyone agrees on the grin and the gambling and so on, but there are conflicting accounts regarding the gender.
Huh. The wiki has two different(?) Goddesses called Haleth. Haleth, a goddess of Fertility in Middenland, and Haleth the lady of the hunt in the northern empire (and Middenland is in the north so...). Dyrath is also mentioned. I wonder if someone made a typo and listed the same goddess under two names. Can anyone who has access to actual source materials weigh in on this?
In any case it doesn't look there are all that many minor female goddesses worshipped in the empire: after discounting the major goddesses and the halfling goddesses - which maybe we shouldn't because I just realized while writing this that there is a myth that Ranald created the halflings as a joke - there are about a dozen. If we invest some gold in the appropriate books we can probably narrow down our list of suspects to very few names, though I still think that Halétha is a very strong contender and think we should use the Father face of the coin when dealing with the hedgefolk.
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It's more of a "probably":
I portrayed the White Raven as someone who believes in Ranald in a female manifestation in my omake, and canon sources sometimes indicate that Ranald is viewed in feminine form, but for the most part Ranald is largely portrayed as male. I'd like to think that he is genderfluid, but people in universe tend to focus on his male form because of gender bias.
On the other hand it could be that he identifies as having more male signifiers than female ones. Genderfluid does not as far as I know have to mean a perfectly balanced mix, it is more of a broad category.
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While I think Hekarti, Atharti, and Halétha are the most likely candidates, I have to admit that I found the suggestion of The Lady being one of the daughters hilarious.
"Don't come into my room, dad! Stealing stuff is super lame anyway, I'm gonna do chivalry and honour instead!"
"Don't come into my room, dad! Stealing stuff is super lame anyway, I'm gonna do chivalry and honour instead!"
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Genderfluid is when someone's gender varies over time; a subset of genderqueer. And you're right that it doesn't have to be perfectly even.
I have the mental image of Ranald's most devout priests simply using whichever pronoun Ranald is using that day without noticing.
Unless someone points it out to them then when Ranald is trending female they just talk about "her strictures" and "her deeds". If it's pointed out they continue, but perhaps realise something about their god
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- Brazil
Ngl, I don't see why people are losing their minds over this.
It's cool and all, but this time the headpats feel kind of empty.
I'm hoping there's a big surprise in finding them out.
It's cool and all, but this time the headpats feel kind of empty.
I'm hoping there's a big surprise in finding them out.
Unless it goes down that way, then it'd be entirely worth it
Likewise, while I'm certain it's not true, the suggestion that a few people have put forth that Mathilde is one of Ranald's daughters and doesn't know it is equally hilarious to me, if only because of how the fifth face would work.
"You turn the coin to the Father, the fifth face. A sudden feeling of trust and faith in yourself comes over you."
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You don't need to explain genderfluidity to me. If you check my profile, you will see that I am Genderfluid, and at the moment I'm using she/her pronouns exclusively and have a stronger feminine presentation (doesn't reflect in real life because of the closet). I'm just saying that the authors of WHF don't really put any effort into actually presenting Ranald as genderfluid. You can easily just say your character is nonbinary and put zero effort into your representation and then justify it by saying that yeah they're nonbinary but for all intents and purposes they're treated as male by everyone in universe and I would have the right to look at it askance and wonder whether they actually ever intended to follow through with it.
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Honestly, a "Believe in yourself, you can do it" blessing would be kinda sweet and heartwarming.
Also very useful in a setting where people regularly reach out to dark and terrible powers out of a feeling of helplessness.
I am kind of dubious they ever put any work at all to be honest. GW is not known for their sterling research into such things as seen by the fact that Slaanesh is still... what it is.
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You know, I don't believe it ever was. Maybe to the Old Ones.
But if the gods didn't want their backstory to be confused, uncertain, convoluted messes they have the power to clarify it.
Hell this is proof that the gods DO actively conceal and reveal the truth about their nature in order to control their image.
The uncertainty may be part of their nature, at the very least it is by design.
The fact that the other gods seem to accept it given they would trust us, its not exactly a hostile coup.
Its a weird way to redefine his relationship by keeping it a secret.
Single simplest explanation I can think of. This is an image from Ranalds mortal life, the kids never ascended to being gods. May not satisfy the daughters followers bit, unless they mean they're organisational leaders or something.
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A lot of repeat searching eh?
I think part of reason the new face has no practical use right now is that it's not a reward for finishing a quest/research line, or for a great accomplishment. It's the quest hook. I'm pretty sure that once we figure out how to use it, it'll be just as powerful as the other faces, as in very.
I personally expected Faith to be more the immediate payout option with Truth as a long-term deal, so that might explain why this feels... not as satisfying. I'm pretty confidant that it'll work better on the reread once we've actually figured out how to use it.
I personally expected Faith to be more the immediate payout option with Truth as a long-term deal, so that might explain why this feels... not as satisfying. I'm pretty confidant that it'll work better on the reread once we've actually figured out how to use it.