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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Speaking of upcoming stuff, I forget, what hasn't been shown yet on that was on the docket? I think we haven't gotten Egrimm and the Lights yet, right?
 
NuclearConsensus said:
Speaking of upcoming stuff, I forget, what hasn't been shown yet on that was on the docket? I think we haven't gotten Egrimm and the Lights yet, right?
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-[*] EGRIMM: Attempt to bring the Light Order into the Waystone Project
-[*] Attempt to bring an organisation into the Waystone Project (The Jade Order)
--[*] The Gambler: Attempt to bring the Jade Order into the Waystone Project
-[*] EIC: Insert agents into Talabecland administration to start gathering their secrets
-[*] Seek official recognition of Kron-Azril-Ungol as an affiliated library of the Colleges of Magic
-[*] Write a paper: Observations on the Chaos Wastes in the western Great Steppes
 
DragonParadox said:
Oh yeah that I would be down with, since I do not think this will have major impact on the mechanics, social AP looks like a good fit.
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Ack, I also meant 'While using the Father facet of the Coin at the time (in order to see if anything comes of it)' bit.

Of course the trouble with that is, is that if using the Coin for that, we're not using it for its Gambler boost, soooo... Which thus makes it more tempting to use actual-AP since 'Well I'm doing this anyway right?' But on the other hand, I still want to do it! It's a curiosity and I want to poke at it! =/
 
You know what somewhat surprises me? In all the years that they've been friends, and all the times Ranald helped out, no priest of Ranald, or grand omen, has ever come and asked Mat if she might lend a hand.

This implies Ranald has a better assassin/Protector on call, even after Mat revealed her self as a Ranaldite by putting out a call for the new temple. Or a way to arrange for someone with similar capabilities and of the same aligment to learn about the problem when they do.

I'm just waiting for the day when Mat gets called in by the priesthood to help with something nasty by making it go away.
 
Garlak said:
Ack, I also meant 'While using the Father facet of the Coin at the time (in order to see if anything comes of it)' bit.

Of course the trouble with that is, is that if using the Coin for that, we're not using it for its Gambler boost, soooo... Which thus makes it more tempting to use actual-AP since 'Well I'm doing this anyway right?' But on the other hand, I still want to do it! It's a curiosity and I want to poke at it! =/
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Ah... no. I do not think finding obscure cults is worth a +20 at least not anytime soon, just like with AP if not more so it is a limited resource so the same principle applies to my mind.
 
Going to do some speculation on the usage of the new face, which also means some speculation on what the goddess are goddesses of.

So, based on the heavy prominence of birds (the coughs, and the doves and crows in the painting), I think those two are goddesses of birds, or more specifically doves and crows respectively. That also explains why no one has heard of them, their followers aren't human.

So what does that mean? Well, friendship with animals is an important step on the path of Mathilde the (Disney) Princess, so that's good. More practically, she's got an instant surveillance network where ever she goes (outside the chaos wastes). Which I imagine could be somewhat useful for a Grey Magister.

As a side note, Mathilde becoming a faithful of the newly revealed goddess (in the same sense as with Ranald, so basically a family friend/aunt) is extremely Mathilde. Like, these are ultra secret gods you need to have great accomplishments to even know about. That's some great smug material.
 
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primemountain said:
You know what somewhat surprises me? In all the years that they've been friends, and all the times Ranald helped out, no priest of Ranald, or grand omen, has ever come and asked Mat if she might lend a hand.

This implies Ranald has a better assassin/Protector on call, even after Mat revealed her self as a Ranaldite by putting out a call for the new temple. Or a way to arrange for someone with similar capabilities and of the same aligment to learn about the problem when they do.

I'm just waiting for the day when Mat gets called in by the priesthood to help with something nasty by making it go away.
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This was a trait option a while back, I think. "Mountain Mystic" maybe?
 
primemountain said:
You know what somewhat surprises me? In all the years that they've been friends, and all the times Ranald helped out, no priest of Ranald, or grand omen, has ever come and asked Mat if she might lend a hand.

This implies Ranald has a better assassin/Protector on call, even after Mat revealed her self as a Ranaldite by putting out a call for the new temple. Or a way to arrange for someone with similar capabilities and of the same aligment to learn about the problem when they do.

I'm just waiting for the day when Mat gets called in by the priesthood to help with something nasty by making it go away.
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I believe if implies the GM has seen our action bloat and did not want to make us feel honorbound to spend action on that. If we wanted to help Ranaldites we should have taken High Priest.
 
Codex said:
I don't think we should tell Heidi unless Ranald gives us the god ahead. This is such a huge secret that Mathilde has absolutely no idea it even existed until it popped up. Maybe Heidi knows, but I don't want to spill it to her if she doesn't.
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I think we should visit Heidi, and wait for her to tell what she can. We know that Ranald does reveal some of what we do to Heidi and she is the person most likely to be able to give more information, but I agree we shouldn't volunteer the information. Also I want Heidi headpats. :)
 
BurnNote said:
Going to do some speculation on the usage of the new face, which also means some speculation on what the goddess are goddesses of.

So, based on the heavy prominence of birds (the coughs, and the doves and crows in the painting), I think those two are goddesses of birds, or more specifically doves and crows respectively. That also explains why no one has heard of them, their followers aren't human.

So what does that mean? Well, friendship with animals is an important step on the path of Mathilde the (Disney) Princess, so that's good. More practically, she's got an instant surveillance network where ever she goes (outside the chaos wastes). Which I imagine could be somewhat useful.

As a side note, Mathilde becoming a faithful of the newly revealed goddess (in the same sense as with Ranald, so basically a family friend/aunt) is extremely Mathilde. Like, these are ultra secret gods you need to have great accomplishments to even know about. That's some great smug material.
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I do not think birds can have gods, their emotions are not complex enough to worship anything.
 
primemountain said:
You know what somewhat surprises me? In all the years that they've been friends, and all the times Ranald helped out, no priest of Ranald, or grand omen, has ever come and asked Mat if she might lend a hand.

This implies Ranald has a better assassin/Protector on call, even after Mat revealed her self as a Ranaldite by putting out a call for the new temple. Or a way to arrange for someone with similar capabilities and of the same aligment to learn about the problem when they do.

I'm just waiting for the day when Mat gets called in by the priesthood to help with something nasty by making it go away.
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Mat's been a bit busy with a lot of other useful tasks and stuff like muffin gods. It might be less that he's got someone better and more that she ms too good. Also high profile, especially for a Grey Wizard.

Plus what everyone else said.
 
Well, am sad this research topic is locked out now. But the fifth side of are "super special fun coin" is a cult verificationator/ Demi-god detector. Cool. Still would have liked the research, Goddess of Magic Weber had a nice ring to it.
 
BurnNote said:
Going to do some speculation on the usage of the new face, which also means some speculation on what the goddess are goddesses of.

So, based on the heavy prominence of birds (the coughs, and the doves and crows in the painting), I think those two are goddesses of birds, or more specifically doves and crows respectively. That also explains why no one has heard of them, their followers aren't human.

So what does that mean? Well, friendship with animals is an important step on the path of Mathilde the (Disney) Princess, so that's good. More practically, she's got an instant surveillance network where ever she goes (outside the chaos wastes). Which I imagine could be somewhat useful.

As a side note, Mathilde becoming a faithful of the newly revealed goddess (in the same sense as with Ranald, so basically a family friend/aunt) is extremely Mathilde. Like, these are ultra secret gods you need to have great accomplishments to even know about. That's some great smug material.
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Is that even possible? Not that it doesn't make sense, I'm just legit unsure if Warhammer Fantasy gods can have animal worshippers. Aligned animals, sure, but to my knowledge animals can't really provide worship. That said, we've never really checked, either…
 
Raiseth said:
We've been talking about Hetharti and Atharti, twin elven goddesses .
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Fair, but I'm not sure we should be making the comparisons just yet.

Execute/Dumbo said:
Is that even possible? Not that it doesn't make sense, I'm just legit unsure if Warhammer Fantasy gods can have animal worshippers. Aligned animals, sure, but to my knowledge animals can't really provide worship. That said, we've never really checked, either…
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We don't really know.

I imagine birbs are certainly part of their imagery.
 
You know, if they are the elven goddesses, that could actually help, especially Hekarti. Her cult would be pretty useful for the Waystones Network.
 
DragonParadox said:
I do not think birds can have gods, their emotions are not complex enough to worship anything.
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Execute/Dumbo said:
Is that even possible? Not that it doesn't make sense, I'm just legit unsure if Warhammer Fantasy gods can have animal worshippers. Aligned animals, sure, but to my knowledge animals can't really provide worship. That said, we've never really checked, either…
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That is fair, but the description doesn't say worshipper. It says follower. So I could totally be right, yes.
 
So what i am taking away from this is that the supping from the chalice has indeed been a tongue in cheek innuendo :V Shallaya and Ranald, sitting in the tree...

I think its also nice that Mathilde has as close to a confirmation that the love story is the more close to truth interpretation of the events, provided its not the "The greatest trick Ranald pulled".
 
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reignonyrparade said:
I mean, yeah, probably. It's called "miracle working priests who have gotten super deep into the Lore of Ranald." Wizards are great but they are genuinely not particularly different in degree from what major priesthoods can pull out.
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That isn't true actually. Priests at the very highest ends are weaker than Wizards at the highest ends, the effects of their miracle working tend to be far smaller in scale and more focused on individual workings rather than battlefield changing spells. The tradeoff is that Priests don't miscast. They have Wrath of the Gods, but the consequences of Wrath of the Gods is not nearly as severe as miscasting..
 
im just imagining how utterly confused and concerned people would get if Mathilde disappeared from her duties to just turbo murder some Chaos cultists bothering some unimportant minor God cultists. Mathilde getting to be "god"mother to Ranald's daughters would be awesome, even if only to show that Ranald has some pretty big sticks to swing if need be.
 
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