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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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You know, straight up wandering adventurer likely became a valid path to Wizard Lord-dom, due the Coin.

Teaming up with Asarnil sounds pretty interesting, but we'd need Battle Spells to be respected, IMO. He would see a Wizard Lord as an equal, but I figure a Battle Wizard is a sufficiently enticing prospect for a partner.

Another argument for The Book, before it's closed: getting Battle Spells taught to us is hella hard, but perhaps we could adapt the ones in The Book for ourselves, if it has Battle Spells.
 
My hope for after we return to regular turns is for Mathilde to actually just sit down and research for two or three turns straight. She's got so many potential ways to level up by now that it'd be criminal to not make use of them. Before she sets out on any Big Adventures or New Important Jobs, she's got a plethora of opportunities to improve herself. Just look at how fast she learned spells during the College turns.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
When we wrote down the Expedition as where we were going next, we filled that in as a "about five years into the future" sort of plan. I thought we could have done very well scouting the everloving shit out of K8P like we did for the first two Karags, and massively assist in the low intensity warfare that's to follow the initial push.

Given the Coin, tho... It's just too good to pass up.

I'd be comfortable spending a few years pounding the everloving shit out of goblins and Skaven here, massiveky skewing the odds, while we polish ourselves up to a new standard: finish the spell book, write down an academic paper or two (MAP, Undead Almanac), read The Book, get ourselves a rifle, enchant our guns, train up our WS/BS, etc.
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Yeah, I'd be more than happy to fulfil the implicit OOC commitment to spend a few years basically committed to Karak Eight Peaks (with a few vacations back to the College for training). In that time I'd hope that with the Coin, the Belt, hopefully a rune weapon at some point, and ever increasing magical might we can go full Konrad Curze on the local enemies of dwarvenkind. The legend of the Schattenindernacht should be something that goblins and skaven use to terrify each other as dusk falls for generations to come.

The news that we lose the standard Blessing on turns when we use the other facets is a bit disappointing though. It means that it's much more of a toss up for whether to use the other faces of the coin on many turns.

wrecksalot said:
I would like to do it just because I think it would make Roswita mad. The coin starting out on the Protector would be nice for rep purposes
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The best revenge is a life well lived. I think Mathilde being declared a Hero of the Empire for the assistance she's given the Empire's only ally, followed by occasional news of her big damn heroine something else would be a much better way to make her mad.

Ultimately though, I don't think Roswita matters that much. She's in the past. She was an idiot, and it's her loss, and that's the end of it.

TotallyNotEvil said:
Teaming up with Asarnil sounds pretty interesting, but we'd need Battle Spells to be respected, IMO. He would see a Wizard Lord as an equal, but I figure a Battle Wizard is a sufficiently enticing prospect for a partner.
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I doubt he's see any human as an equal. He's see precious few elves. I think he's see Mathilde as an interesting curiosity at best. Even if she managed some snake juice powered ascension ritual to become some great and terrible posthuman creature of magic, then she'd still be far too de classe. That's not to say that he wouldn't accept her into his service or his company, but he's literally one of the most arrogant creatures to walk the planet.
 
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That's why I'm asking instead of doing it.

We will have to be more focused with our pursuits, then. Dedicated turns for scouting, research and glorious battle.
 
BoneyM said:
It's not easy to offend Ranald, but going down this path would just about do it.
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I'm getting a bit confused about the wording here, sorry; do you mean that we spent the Gambler bonus on the coin, so it's entirely spent for a bit and we can't use any of the other powers?

If that's the case, about how long is the courtesy length for not swapping between them all willy nilly?
 
SITB said:
You do know that Mathilde actually believes in Ranald as her god right? He is not a mere font of blessing, Mathilde genuinely believes in Ranald's divinity and ideals and strives to uphold them.
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She does but as a mage which full knowledge of how gods are made and what they are as well as one who has looked Ranald's aetheric presence in the eye I think the relationship is a bit less mystical than most other priests. She might belive in his divinity, but she also knows he is a blob of seinent warp energy sustained by belief and worship.
 
chocolote12 said:
I'm getting a bit confused about the wording here, sorry; do you mean that we spent the Gambler bonus on the coin, so it's entirely spent for a bit and we can't use any of the other powers?

If that's the case, about how long is the courtesy length for not swapping between them all willy nilly?
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Presumably six months, which I think the normal turns are.

DragonParadox said:
She does but as a mage which full knowledge of how gods are made and what they are as well as one who has looked Ranald's aetheric presence in the eye I think the relationship is a bit less mystical than most other priests. She might belive in his divinity, but she also knows he is a blob of seinent warp energy sustained by belief and worship.
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Sustained, created, and defined by belief and worship.
 
DragonParadox said:
She does but as a mage which full knowledge of how gods are made and what they are as well as one who has looked Ranald's aetheric presence in the eye I think the relationship is a bit less mystical than most other priests. She might belive in his divinity, but she also knows he is a blob of seinent warp energy sustained by belief and worship.
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Even if logically she knows he is one, she doesn't treat him as such. Mathilde is a genuine worshiper of Ranald; she isn't going to treat him as a blob of warp energy. The most she would do is champion a facet of Ranald via the lens of religious schism/heresy because he is her god.
 
chocolote12 said:
I'm getting a bit confused about the wording here, sorry; do you mean that we spent the Gambler bonus on the coin, so it's entirely spent for a bit and we can't use any of the other powers?
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The Coin has completely overwritten the previous bonus for having a Shrine to Ranald, and as such no stacking is possible and currently a Shrine would give no bonus. Etiquette would demand one be raised to Ranald anyway.

DragonParadox said:
she also knows he is a blob of seinent warp energy sustained by belief and worship.
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The same might be said of the human soul.

TotallyNotEvil said:
Valuable enough to translate into favour?

Or at least "show work"?
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Keeping the College off your back, yes. A little Favour from publishing, and if it does get used as a springboard for future studies, more favour from being cited.

TotallyNotEvil said:
Oh, we asked Boney a while ago, and a Wizard Lord would count.
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DragonParadox said:
Really? A human wizard lord is basically and advanced high elf apprentice.
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It would count to get Mathilde out of the usual entertaining animal/dull animal/annoying animal scale that Asarnil measures humans upon. Equal is a tougher call.
 
SITB said:
Even if logically she knows he is one, she doesn't treat him as such. Mathilde is a genuine worshiper of Ranald; she isn't going to treat him as a blob of warp energy. The most she would do is champion a facet of Ranald via the lens of religious schism/heresy because he is her god.
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That is a dangerous bit of cognitive dissonance you are implying she has. Is there any reason why she could not believe in the justice of his ideals and advance his causes while fully internalizing his nature as an aetheric construct?

@BoneyM could you chine in is Mathilde employing double-think when considering Randald or worshiping him with the full understanding of whence his divinity comes?
 
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BoneyM said:
It would count to get Mathilde out of the usual entertaining animal/dull animal/annoying animal scale that Asarnil measures humans upon. Equal is a tougher call.
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The #1 problem with getting a Loremaster of Hoeth to collaborate with is that almost all Elfs are dicks. The only Elfs that aren't dicks are elf adventurers, who are basically overworked interns that had mental breakdowns from having to work with humans too much.
 
DragonParadox said:
That is a dangerous bit of cognitive dissonance you are implying she has. Is there any reason why she could not believe in the justice of his ideals and advance his causes while fully internalizing his nature as an aetheric construct?

@BoneyM could you chine in is Mathilde emplying double-think when considering Randald or worshiping him with the full understanding of whence his divinity comes?
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Ranald is a sentient blob of warp energy. Mathilde is a sentient blob of warp energy wrapped in flesh. Knowing individual facts about someone's metaphysical make-up doesn't necessarily change how you treat them, even if they are gods.

Sinsystems said:
So @BoneyM did Mathilde pack any of her Cheesy Romance novels with her for this expedition?
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A few. She'd already read them but it was her ticket into the romance novel barter economy with the Halflings.
 
DragonParadox said:
Really? A human wizard lord is basically and advanced high elf apprentice.
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a human wizard is a specialist, whereas elves are generalists.
Having one of the Worlds Best Fire-Flingers is pretty good for mercenary work, vs some elf who only has 1 fire technique out of 30 things to do un-merc-related shit
 
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BoneyM said:
Ranald is a sentient blob of warp energy. Mathilde is a sentient blob of warp energy wrapped in flesh. Knowing individual facts about someone's metaphysical make-up doesn't necessarily change how you treat them, even if they are gods.



A few. She'd already read them but it was her ticket into the romance novel barter economy with the Halflings.
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How comfy is your standard Halfling romance novel?

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