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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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As an aside, it's doubtful that Mathilde would take up Necromancy due to the pure distaste of it after Van Hal and Drakenhof
 
Zero Gravitas said:
They might very well enhance one another since the book is about Dhar whilst snake juice is Qhaysh so learning how to manipulate one using a wind of magic may very well let Mathilde figure out how to also manipulate the other.
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Honestly I figure that's a possibility as well. I also think that using Ulgu to touch upon high magic is likely to be a fuck load safer assuming it's possible to do so with out unbalancing it.


Candesce said:
Personally, I'm in favor of researching the snake juice first if for no other reason than re-establishing researching stuff as something Mathilde does, without having to fight the big argument about that damned book.

It's not like the snake juice won't be there to research again after reading the book, if it comes to that.
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Problem is whilst I'm all for researching the snek juice she doesn't really have a method of manipulating it beyond pouring it onto stuff and seeing what happens and whilst I think that's actually a viable if highly wasteful way of using it's also going to have the issue or being incredibly time consuming and snake juice isn't something we have in massive amounts even if we've a few gallons of the stuff.
 
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DiceOfStupidity said:
That's definition of Umbramancy.
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It's not when the undifferentiated magic you're talking about is the pure snake juice not the corrupted True Dhar.

DragonParadox said:
The two alternatives I can think of are:
  1. Ask a Bretonian Damsel to share holy secrets
  2. Raid Nehekaran Tombs for knowledge
Somehow I think reading a book in front of the fire is both safer and more likely to yield results. :V
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And they still do sorcery, which is the opposite. Nagash was the greatest human magician to ever exist to work out how to reverse sorcery.
 
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ctulhuslp said:
Kragg still manages to manipulate magic via Runes better than vast vast majority of wizards.
His grasp of theory is apparently enough to do things like make dhar...safer, which is probably flat out not a thing human wizards can do via magic.
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Which he does via dwarf magic, not elf-style magic.

Thus, the point is moot.

His understanding of magic that'd be theoretically useful and acquireable to us seems more superfluous by the day.
BoneyM said:
ity. That could result in the listener in the above example concluding that your sincere belief was the result of insanity, rather than there being an empire about he'd never heard of that you happened to rule
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I mean, some sort of... Under-Empire beneath everyone's feet seems patently ridiculous, right?
das_slash said:
But can his heart/liver take it? I feel that everytime we give him news we drive him closer and closer to the edge of madness.

"Mathilde Lass, i dearly wished ye trusted me a little less"
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Just like the Pondmaster.
 
The greatest use of the coin in regards to the book isn't to turn it over, but in the case we are ever caught, or close to being caught.

"And what's in that box?"
"Don't know, Elector Count Van Hal told me not to open it, and I haven't."

A paranoid person suddenly believing into "I never gave into temptation" might spark problems, but that we didn't open the magical box our lover beloved liege told us not to is a much easier sell.
 
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TotallyNotEvil said:
The greatest use of the coin in regards to the book isn't to turn it over, but in the case we are ever caught, or close to being caught.

"And what's in that box?"
"Don't know, Elector Count Van Hal told me not to open it, and I haven't."
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The problem is that it only works if we activate it in advance, with a prepared lie.

So, it doesn't work for getting caught, as we can hardly know when we're getting caught.
 
chocolote12 said:
It's only balanced raw magic; it's the difference between a yarn store and a brilliant tapestry.
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That's not how it was described in the updates it was called out Qhaysh not as just raw magical energy because of the fact that it's stable when bottled.

[ ] Qhaysh Juice:

It's listed in the research turns as Qhaysh so I'd argue it's more akin to a bolt of clothe rather than a ball of string.
 
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