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Redshirt rolled a D4 and said the cost would be 200+100*D4 results, and it landed on a 4. I and many others found it amusing as RANALD'S WILL. That's how it came about anyway
Personally, given how the (by some some claimed) excessive 600 there is a result of the die and modifier both and that said modifier existed to ensure that the floor was 300 instead of the skinflint choices, I like to think that the result is Ranald's way of telling @Redshirt Army that he could have had a more reasonable result, if he hadn't been a coward. :p
 
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But I think the 'don't ignore Egrimm' plan is very premature in asking Max to check the College libraries so early. We should expect to get much better access once those Colleges are on board.

Do we need Max to sift through full access libraries though? Presumably once a College is on board they'll be in a better position than Max would've been to forward relevant previously restricted literature in any case.
 
Do we need Max to sift through full access libraries though? Presumably once a College is on board they'll be in a better position than Max would've been to forward relevant previously restricted literature in any case.
The assumption is that we would have to spend a Max action for him to scour the libraries every time a new library comes in that we have access to, which adds up to a lot of AP spent over a period of time.
 
[X] Plan Redshirt v2 with Divine AV
[X] Plan WEB-MAT & Culture
Redshirt rolled a D4 and said the cost would be 200+100*D4 results, and it landed on a 4. I and many others found it amusing as RANALD'S WILL. That's how it came about anyway
My headcanon is that Loec saw a chance to goad someone into setting the place up like a proper ritzy dance hall, and sent a quick message to Ranald (who is a totally distinct God and definitely not also Loec (who is also definitely not Ranald)) to finagle Mathilde into doing it.

Loec delivered the message by slipping it under Ranald's door, however Ranald pickpocketed it off him before he could manage it, but Loec tricked him by not actually being the one he pickpocketed, but rather being the pickpocket himself, which is why Ranald already knew the message before it was stolen from him. And anyway Loec had written a grocery list on the other side and needed it back.

I cannot be convinced to believe any other explanation unless it's even funnier.
 
[X] Plan Redshirt v2 with Divine AV
[X] Plan WEB-MAT & Culture

My headcanon is that Loec saw a chance to goad someone into setting the place up like a proper ritzy dance hall, and sent a quick message to Ranald (who is a totally distinct God and definitely not also Loec (who is also definitely not Ranald)) to finagle Mathilde into doing it.

Loec delivered the message by slipping it under Ranald's door, however Ranald pickpocketed it off him before he could manage it, but Loec tricked him by not actually being the one he pickpocketed, but rather being the pickpocket himself, which is why Ranald already knew the message before it was stolen from him. And anyway Loec had written a grocery list on the other side and needed it back.

I cannot be convinced to believe any other explanation unless it's even funnier.
My theory is that Ranald and Loec are not the same entity, but that they are similar. I think they probably come from the same origin, and Ranald "budded" off of Loec to become his own entity by leeching off human society. Ranald, in all his aspects, is a human god, and he represents aspects of humanity. Loec and Ranald's domains are similar and they probably draw from some of the same power sources, but just as Loec is more a God of Dance, Theatre and Trickery, Ranald is a God of Luck, Thievery, Deception and Protection.

I do find it very amusing to think of them playing games of chance and deception and trickery with each other though. Sounds like the type of stuff they'd get up to.
 
[X] Plan Don't Ignore Engrim

I think the forestborn can wait. getting that 3 for 2 on webmat actions is really nice and we should definitely take advantage of it.
 
[X] Plan WEB-MAT & Culture with library and nice living space
-[x] JOHANN: Have Johann spend time getting to know Kadoh, who has expressed an interest in meeting the 'fist metal-Mage'.
-[X] EGRIMM: Study an artefact: Golden Arm
-[X] MAX: Go through every library of the Colleges you can access for any scrap of information about Waystones.
-[x] Attempt to bring a Karak's Runesmiths into the Waystone Project (Karak Azul)
--[x] COIN: The Gambler
-[x] Furnish the living spaces of the Waystone Project HQ (300gc)
-[x] Immerse yourself in the culture of the 'Cityborn' Toriour inhabitants of Tor Lithanel
-[X] Immerse yourself in the culture of the 'Forestborn' Faniour inhabitants of the woods surrounding Tor Lithanel
-[x] EIC: Have a blackpowder factory built in Wurtbad.
-[x] SERENITY: Observations of Karag Dum and its unusual guardian

The discount option for those that want to keep some extra gold in hand in case we have future expenses.


[X] Plan Redshirt v2 with Divine AV with nice living space
[X] Plan Putting Down Roots
[X] Plan WEB-MAT & Culture
[X] Plan WEB-MAT & Max Research
 
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[X] Plan Don't Ignore Engrim

I think the forestborn can wait. getting that 3 for 2 on webmat actions is really nice and we should definitely take advantage of it.
I'm not very fond of having the Forestborn wait when they're some of the people who wanted our support the most. Stormwitch Kaia was one of the oldest supporters of interaction of the outside world (which inludes Druchii and Norsca but I digress). And the Forestborn council of the Ward of Storm voted for us, and were our point of contact in the form of Vicerine Cadaeth. Spending 6 months integrating with the upper class while ignoring the lower classes does not sit right with me.
 
The assumption is that we would have to spend a Max action for him to scour the libraries every time a new library comes in that we have access to, which adds up to a lot of AP spent over a period of time.

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily add up to me. These colleges are not going to give blank cheque access to their restricted libraries just because they hop on board. They're going to curate what they have and are willing to offer up. So since they're already doing an initial sort just from in the interests of secrecy, as well as being at that point invested in the projects success. I don't see why they wouldn't offer up whatever relevant classified literature they've got and are wiling to share as a matter of course, rather than needing someone to go find it.
 
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Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily add up to me. These colleges are not going to give blank cheque access just because they hop on board. They're going to curate what they have and are willing to offer up. So since they're already doing an initial sort just from in the interests of secrecy, as well as being at that point invested in the projects success. I don't see why they wouldn't offer up whatever relevant classified literature they've got and are wiling to share as a matter of course, rather than needing someone to go find it.
If that was the case, then we wouldn't have to spend an action with Max to scour the libraries he has access to. If they automatically gave us the books we need after we get them on board, then the action is useless. The fact that the action exists means that there is no convenient operation that makes it so the books are ready for us, especially since the Grey College IS on board. We're a Lord Magister, if that isn't on board, then I don't know what is.
 
If that was the case, then we wouldn't have to spend an action with Max to scour the libraries he has access to. If they automatically gave us the books we need after we get them on board, then the action is useless. The fact that the action exists means that there is no convenient operation that makes it so the books are ready for us, especially since the Grey College IS on board. We're a Lord Magister, if that isn't on board, then I don't know what is.

The libraries he has access to as a member in good standing of the Colleges. I.E. the public access stuff anyone can look at. The individual colleges are not going to curate that for us since they have no buy in at this point. It's not useless since I doubt we'll be getting all 8 on board.

The Grey College is on board in the form of Mathilde Weber, it's on her to put the wheels in motion on restricted Grey College access, which is presumably folded into the Max option as a matter of course, like the better (but not full) access to Gold and Light libraries is from the other WEBMAT members. If we get another full college on board then it would be the responsibility of whoever the point person turns out to be for that college to offer up restricted resources they have access to.
 
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The libraries he has access to as a member in good standing of the Colleges. I.E. the public access stuff anyone can look at. The individual colleges are not going to curate that for us since they have no buy in at this point. It's not useless since I doubt we'll be getting all 8 on board.

The Grey College is on board in the form of Mathilde Weber, it's on her to put the wheels in motion on restricted Grey College access, which is presumably folded into the Max option as a matter of course, like the better (but not full) access to Gold and Light libraries is from the other WEBMAT members. If we get another full college on board then it would be the responsibility of whoever the point person turns out to be for that college to offer up restricted resources they have access to.
That seems overly optimistic and built on an assumption that I'm not certain will play out. I'd like to ask Boney about this specifically rather than assuming things will turn out perfectly and we'll never have to spend any more AP on library scouring after this turn. @BoneyM can you confirm whether or not we will have to spend further Max actions in the future to scour the libraries of other orders if we get them on board?
 
Redshirt rolled a D4 and said the cost would be 200+100*D4 results, and it landed on a 4. I and many others found it amusing as RANALD'S WILL. That's how it came about anyway
I mean, Mathilde is a devout person, of sorts, so it's not exactly out of character to as k the gods for advice and then go with it.
It's not like she can just hoard gold as it is, might as well spend it on other people (and herself).

[X] Plan Don't Ignore Engrim

[X] Plan WEB-MAT & Culture
 
I mean, Mathilde is a devout person, of sorts, so it's not exactly out of character to as k the gods for advice and then go with it.
It's not like she can just hoard gold as it is, might as well spend it on other people (and herself).

[X] Plan Don't Ignore Engrim

[X] Plan WEB-MAT & Culture

I am pretty sure we can hoard money for all intents and purposes, we are LM who lives in the forest kingdom of the elves that most Imperials will never see. There is no real need to keep up appearances, so long as the money is ethically sourced we are fine to make a Scroodge McDuck money pool out of it. The real reason to spend it is that it is not very useful as a money pool in progress
 
@BoneyM can you confirm whether or not we will have to spend further Max actions in the future to scour the libraries of other orders if we get them on board?

A Lady Magister in good standing, or a Magister in the service of one, has access to the overwhelming majority of the Orders' libraries. That's why it'll take an action to sort through those, and it won't take further actions for College materials you may gain access to in the future. You're not going to accumulate access to so many otherwise forbidden tomes that they'd take actions just to sort through unless you do amazingly well with a lot of people.
 
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A Lady Magister in good standing, or a Magister in the service of one, has access to the overwhelming majority of the Orders' libraries. That's why it'll take an action to sort through those, and it won't take further actions for College materials you may gain access to in the future. You're not going to accumulate access to so many otherwise forbidden tomes that they'd take actions just to sort through unless you do amazingly well with a lot of people.
Thank you very much for the clarification. That eases most of my worries.
 
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[X] Plan Don't Ignore Egrim with nice living space
-[x] JOHANN: Have Johann spend time getting to know Kadoh, who has expressed an interest in meeting the 'fist metal-Mage'.
-[X] EGRIMM: Study an artefact: Golden Arm
-[X] MAX: Go through every library of the Colleges you can access for any scrap of information about Waystones.
-[x] Attempt to bring a Karak's Runesmiths into the Waystone Project (Karak Azul)
--[x] COIN: The Gambler
-[x] Furnish the living spaces of the Waystone Project HQ (300gc)
-[x] Immerse yourself in the culture of the 'Cityborn' Toriour inhabitants of Tor Lithanel
-[x] Investigate how the Vitae reacts with Divine Magic.
-[x] EIC: Have a blackpowder factory built in Wurtbad.
-[x] SERENITY: Observations of Karag Dum and its unusual guardian

[X] Plan Redshirt v2 with Divine AV with nice living space
 
[X] Plan Don't Ignore Engrim

[X] Plan WEB-MAT & Culture

[x] Plan Windherding: Crawl now, Run next turn

[X] Plan Don't Ignore Egrim with nice living space
 
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