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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Zero Gravitas said:
He's probably in his 40s or early 50s; he is almost certainly the youngest LM bar Mathilde and it seems unlikely all the other LMs would be 65+.
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Mathilde got promoted "young" at 35, instead of letting her get a bit more seasoned. Which i imagine would have been another 10 years or so. My original guess would have been 50 to 60,but then i bumped it up because i wanted to take into account the time already spent as LM.
50-65 places him in Regimand's age group, i think. Old enough to want to retire, but spry enough that no one feels bad for asking you to come out of retirement.
Of course Starke is not flirting with retirement like regimand though...

Kuiper is probably as old as Alric, and Melkoth is an anomaly :V
 
I do wonder if magic power/marks/type of wind/silly things wizards do to themselves/etc means that even among wizards, 'How old you can get' can be very variable.

might be why our master is wanting to retire, while Starke still looks middle aged.

and Jades generally ageing slower would make sense, and explain how the fuck 'the wanderer' is still around and kicking.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
I do wonder if magic power/marks/type of wind/silly things wizards do to themselves/etc means that even among wizards, 'How old you can get' can be very variable.
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I did wonder about that too. That wizards apparently retire and one lord magister had to be supported to walk into the alcove at the supreme patriarch duels doesn't really gel well with the idea that age is a non-issue for me. Maybe for every Mathilde, Elspeth, and Dragomas there is an uncountable number of wizards who age and die just like any other mortal.
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
I do wonder if magic power/marks/type of wind/silly things wizards do to themselves/etc means that even among wizards, 'How old you can get' can be very variable.

might be why our master is wanting to retire, while Starke still looks middle aged.

and Jades generally ageing slower would make sense, and explain how the fuck 'the wanderer' is still around and kicking.
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Paranoth gained the Supreme Patriarch position 40 years ago on 2446 IC as the 19th Patriarch. Considering that he's constantly talked up as possibly one of the most powerful living Wizards of the Colleges, that's fairly believable. I suspect he lost to Alric on purpose so he didn't have to deal with the position anymore.

Now, Alric became the 14th Supreme Patriarch 2406 IC. Then regained his position 2438 IC, lost it 2446 and regained it 2454. He lost the position 2462 and he's still trying to get the position again 24 years later. Now that's a tenacious old man.
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
I do wonder if magic power/marks/type of wind/silly things wizards do to themselves/etc means that even among wizards, 'How old you can get' can be very variable.

might be why our master is wanting to retire, while Starke still looks middle aged.

and Jades generally ageing slower would make sense, and explain how the fuck 'the wanderer' is still around and kicking.
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It's probably pretty variable, is my guess. Further speculation would be that the more arcane marks you have the more prevalent/prominent the lack of aging is, on the grounds that each one moves you further from baseline humanity, but I don't think there's been anything IC or OOC that would confirm it.
 
henkalv said:
I did wonder about that too. That wizards apparently retire and one lord magister had to be supported to walk into the alcove at the supreme patriarch duels doesn't really gel well with the idea that age is a non-issue for me. Maybe for every Mathilde, Elspeth, and Dragomas there is an uncountable number of wizards who age and die just like any other mortal.
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Retiring doesn't necessarily mean due to age. It could be that (like various Greys) they can't operate outside of the Colleges anymore for whatever reason. Also it would probably be more accurate to say age is less of an issue for wizards. And it varies by wizard anyway.

NSMS said:
It's probably pretty variable, is my guess. Further speculation would be that the more arcane marks you have the more prevalent/prominent the lack of aging is, on the grounds that each one moves you further from baseline humanity, but I don't think there's been anything IC or OOC that would confirm it.
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Technically, there has been!

BoneyM said:
No, but she doesn't need to. Once Wizards start racking up Arcane Marks, they become less subject to the passage of time. Egrimm pegged Alric's age at no less than 120.
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Emphasis mine.
 
henkalv said:
That wizards apparently retire and one lord magister had to be supported to walk into the alcove at the supreme patriarch duels doesn't really gel well with the idea that age is a non-issue for me.
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Yes, but this was a grey wizard. Charlatans and illusionists all of them.
Not saying age doesn't weigh on him, but just like how Mathilde used a gesture to dismiss the shadow horse to reassure the people around, Kuiper could be acting.
He looks old, so he acts old, because that is what people expect of someone that looks that old.
He could also want to be underestimated by whoever could be watching.
He is just an old man. What could he possibly do?
And then he casts pit of shades, because magic does not care how runty or old you are.
 
A reminder that Melkoth uses an illusion to hide the fact that he leans on a cane:
BoneyM said:
Lord Magister Melkoth, who somehow altered the nature of time itself to make his age impossible to calculate because he got sick of birthday parties as he approached an age in the triple digits, who also uses an illusion to hide the cane he leans upon.
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Melkoth at least, is not immune to age. Certainly he remains unbelievably powerful and energetic, but age has taken a toll on him.
 
Codex said:
A reminder that Melkoth uses an illusion to hide the fact that he leans on a cane:

Melkoth at least, is not immune to age. Certainly he remains unbelievably powerful and energetic, but age has taken a toll on him.
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Either that, or he's running a double-bluff and doesn't actually need the cane but pretends he does to make other wizards underestimate him.

He's a grey lord magister. I wouldn't put anything past him.
 
For some reason, I've got it in my head that Mathilde looks about 10 years younger than she actually is due to her magic/marks. Can anyone confirm this, or is it something I made up?
 
Andres110 said:
@BoneyM what's with the Lores of Life and Light's connection to stone? Shouldn't Lore of Metal be the stony magic?
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I think both light and stone are the elemental associations of Hysh, like Ulgu has both shadow and mist, and Ghyran has plants and water. The truths of the Wind of philosophy and contemplation are both transcendent like light and permanent and foundational like stone.

A single material phenomena can be associated with multiple winds, like how water attracts Ghyran, Ulgu, and Azyr.
 
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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
For some reason, I've got it in my head that Mathilde looks about 10 years younger than she actually is due to her magic/marks. Can anyone confirm this, or is it something I made up?
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That's probably because you saw the artwork. If that is Mathilde at thirty six, without modern skin care, then holy fuck, that's some amazing genetics. I like to think that's the budding signs of Ulgu's influence, made much easier by heavy amounts of physical exercise.
 
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