Wonder what's happening in Ulthuan?

And do we have any more allies/favours to call in? Just in case.
Not in time no, Ulthuan is chasing the two escaped black arks. any left behind either stayed on the islands or went with the elf girl and got killed or captured. Anyone that could come is dealing with other stuff like Kislev's civil war. the Norsca thing. Albion is sealed. possibly for good.
 
They really have the chance to sack Everpeak
no they don't , When the warp gates fell ocean sized formations of demons harried the world the Everpeak held , when the the dwarfs and elves went to into total genocidal war the Everpeak held and when the Age of woe came with every hold was threatened from above and bellow the Everpeak held , Karaz A Karak holds the honor of being The strongest defensive position on the planet tested and proven multiple times over with said defenses improved upon after each siege to be made even more potent , the question isn't if the orcs will lose its what they will cost everyone to defeat them
 
Would be funny if the chorf is deployed as some psychological warfare device only by being instantly gunned dow.
 
Than one enterprising dwarf enginner invent the bouncy Betty Mine. That would be an ever bloodier chaff slaughterfest.

That or wire activated claymore.

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S-mine - Wikipedia

 
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Any idea who the person that is imprisoned is? I'm drawing a blank. than there's the Vampire. I wonder who she could be? If it's not Johanna's sire I'll be shocked.
Indeed the vampire is Johanna's sire, Genevieve
"You walk with a zangunaz," Kragg rasped out, tapping his staff on the ground once and leaving a small crater behind from the impact. "Why?"



"I am an ally," Genevieve curtseyed, doffing her hat for a moment. "To them, and to you. This I would swear upon my own existence. My name is Genevieve-,"



"Ah," Thorgrim interrupted gruffly. "The same which Frederick spoke of?"
 
no they don't , When the warp gates fell ocean sized formations of demons harried the world the Everpeak held , when the the dwarfs and elves went to into total genocidal war the Everpeak held and when the Age of woe came with every hold was threatened from above and bellow the Everpeak held , Karaz A Karak holds the honor of being The strongest defensive position on the planet tested and proven multiple times over with said defenses improved upon after each siege to be made even more potent , the question isn't if the orcs will lose its what they will cost everyone to defeat them
Yeah, Karaz A Karak was designed by the ancestor gods themselves, to hold against functionally unlimited deamons. Orks, while strong, are not stronger than functionally unlimited deamons. A properly manned Karaz A Karak would require a force the world has not seen since the creation of the great vortex to crack.
 
no they don't , When the warp gates fell ocean sized formations of demons harried the world the Everpeak held , when the the dwarfs and elves went to into total genocidal war the Everpeak held and when the Age of woe came with every hold was threatened from above and bellow the Everpeak held , Karaz A Karak holds the honor of being The strongest defensive position on the planet tested and proven multiple times over with said defenses improved upon after each siege to be made even more potent , the question isn't if the orcs will lose its what they will cost everyone to defeat them

A fair point. But to counter, the deamon invasion was not only during the height of the Golden age, they still had all of the Ancestor Gods together, and the Elf-Dwarf war was a war taking place over the continent meaning even with all of their power, they still had to distribute their forces and care about their losses. Even the Times of Woe were more simultaneous invasions of Karaks than any single concentrated attack.

This is a single, giant, Orc warhammer, aimed at the toughest Dwarf plate in the world. If there was no chance the Orcs could win, that the Dawi could lose, then there would be no reason for concern from any of the allied characters.

But Thorgrim has spent years preparing Everpeak for this attack. Has broken tradition multiple times, including asking the Empire for help, even allowing a vampire to come into Everpeak to help. Averland has been our best weapons buyer for years, almost a decade preparing for this attack in case it was aimed at Averland. Half the Provinces have sent their entire armies to help out with this fight.

This is WAAGH compared to Asavar Kul's Everchosen horde, which threatened the world. It been stated that the number of Orks is so innumerable that Province level of casualties have been taken without the batting of an eye or a visible dip in the proverbial bucket of water.

If there was no chance the Orcs could win, why bother showing Magnus the Pius worry? Why show Thorgrim all but visibly nervous? Why show the fight at all?

There's a chance. There's a chance that these Orcs will accomplish what nobody else has ever done. Yes the Skaven were able to attack from the Underways, but the Dwarfs were able to hold. Yes the Elves and Dwarves clashed in one of the most powerful clashes in the world, but they were equal peers at the time. Yes innumerable hordes of Deamons laid seige to all the world, but even lesser Karaks survived that.

This is an attack made solely for taking Everpeak. They will come closer than any before it, and they still might succeed.
 
If there was no chance the Orcs could win, why bother showing Magnus the Pius worry? Why show Thorgrim all but visibly nervous? Why show the fight at all?
its not about about the orcs wining its about what they will cost the empire and dwarfs going down , the orcs could lose at cost of wiping out 90% of the empire aid forces to give an example or gut the great throng to such a degree it dissolves ..ect
 
its not about about the orcs wining its about what they will cost the empire and dwarfs going down , the orcs could lose at cost of wiping out 90% of the empire aid forces to give an example or gut the great throng to such a degree it dissolves ..ect
The other concern is just how long it takes the Dawi to win. Orc Whaaas have sieged Dawi Karaks for decades to centuries. The dwarves are perfectly fine battening down the hatches and hiding until the greenskins can be picked off. The Humans stuck with them are less pleased about the prospect of decades being stuck in a dwarven hold.
 
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