More importantly, a pair of Widow Priestesses were also present, the Widow's Grace strong in them.

"My Lady," all four saluted and bowed to her.

"Have there been any untoward developments?" She asked, glancing between them.

"None, my Lady," the more powerful of the Priestesses spoke, a thick skull-pattern of permanent rimed frost on her face glinting in the sunlight. "I must confess, however…their wielding of the Winds…it is strange to feel, even at a distance."

"True enough," Alexandra nodded slowly, "But such is the ways of the rest of the world. These ones do not possess the Widow's Grace, but they are powerful regardless."

The Priestess nodded before glancing at her companions and back at her.

"And…as well…,"

"I would stymie whatever words you think to say next, sister," Alexandra said sharply. "These are mercenaries, yes? Which we have made great use of in the past, current, and will likely do so in the future. Their price is acceptable to the Dynasty, make no mistake of that."

"I…of course, Regent," the Priestess stammered, lowering her head beneath her baleful blue gaze.

"They are mercenaries," Alexandra repeated, glaring at the four guards. "That is all they are."

Silence and nods,
Interesting to read. They are obviously talking about Elspeth, Agatha and Alisa and are somewhat uncomfortable about their magic, but the focus on them being mercenaries seems much more important. They know that the twins are her sisters, so Alexandra probably needs to assuage the fragile Kislev mindset of not relying on outsiders to get shot done, while also legitimizing herself by not getting her family too involved.

It's good to see that Alex has everyone on a tight leash. But if those three (two) are already cause for some to take offense, however minor, imagine what would have gone down if we had stormed Kislev.
 
This topic of star forts is really interesting. An exorbitant expense but perhaps a way to make an area as close to impregnable as possible in the setting. I can see the value of incorporating elements of their design into our urban planning, but I question their overall tactical value. The places where they make sense seem to be limited. Perhaps one for the Iceborn Flame to further protect it (which I would be supportive of), perhaps one for the arcane fulcrum if we were responsible for it, perhaps one in the Middle Mountains for people to fall back to in the event of an invasion.

But generally I wonder if, rather than expensive fortresses, if the security of the province would be better maintained by further development of the militia. Specifically I'm remembering Alfred the Great's Burgal Hidage.

Due to the tactic of Danish invaders which involved avoiding striking hardpoints like cities and armies, instead predating on weaker or poorer settlements, Alfred established a system of fortified areas to which the populace would retreat during an invasion. These were towns, which had specifically been designated as the relief point for everyone within a 15 mile radius.



I find myself curious what it's like during invasions when the cities of Ostland swell with peasantry during invasions. I note how pulling all the citizens of the coast to Salkalten prevented significant loss of life. I wonder if establishing a series of small forts, administered by a small cadre of full time militia officers, staffed by rotating militia members, to which peasants could retreat and militia's could hold out might help more than singular grand fortresses.

I don't know what they should look like or anything, I don't know if we could include local nobility in the maintenance or operation of them, but I'm curious about other peoples thoughts.
 
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This topic of star forts is really interesting. An exorbitant expense but perhaps a way to make an area as close to impregnable as possible in the setting. I can see the value of incorporating elements of their design into our urban planning, but I question their overall tactical value. The places where they make sense seem to be limited. Perhaps one for the Iceborn Flame to further protect it (which I would be supportive of), perhaps one for the arcane fulcrum if we were responsible for it, perhaps one in the Middle Mountains for people to fall back to in the event of an invasion.

But generally I wonder if, rather than expensive fortresses, if the security of the province would be better maintained by further development of the militia. Specifically I'm remembering Alfred the Great's Burgal Hidage.

Due to the tactic of Danish invaders which involved avoiding striking hardpoints like cities and armies, instead predating on weaker or poorer settlements, Alfred established a system of fortified areas to which the populace would retreat during an invasion. These were towns, which had specifically been designated as the relief point for everyone within a 15 mile radius.



I find myself curious what it's like during invasions when the cities of Ostland swell with peasantry during invasions. I note how pulling all the citizens of the coast to Salkalten prevented significant loss of life. I wonder if establishing a series of small forts, administered by a small cadre of full time militia officers, staffed by rotating militia members, to which peasants could retreat and militia's could hold out might help more than singular grand fortresses.

I don't know what they should look like or anything, I don't know if we could include local nobility in the maintenance or operation of them, but I'm curious about other peoples thoughts.
Honestly an interesting idea, straight up abandoning the smaller and less defensible settlements in order to focus our population in better defended forts could work as long as the settlements get enough warning to allow them to leave.

A few things wortg mentioning with it, firstly that the populace may be more vulnerable on the roads than they were in their villages, especially in case of small threats.

Secondly, the rebuilding costs will likely be greater because more villages would be destroyed. This isn't honestly much of a problem, I'd rather have the people than the houses, but it's still worth mentioning.

Finally, concentrating our population could lead to the enemy just being able to focus more of their forces on breaking open the forts, and each one that falls is a lot of dead people. This one is... honestly not major either. It's difficult to think of a scenario when the fort would be taken but the villages would have survived. Still worth mentioning though.
 
A few things wortg mentioning with it, firstly that the populace may be more vulnerable on the roads than they were in their villages, especially in case of small threats.

Secondly, the rebuilding costs will likely be greater because more villages would be destroyed. This isn't honestly much of a problem, I'd rather have the people than the houses, but it's still worth mentioning.

I can imagine a system of fireworks or other alarm. Or maybe even just a stationed rider, or flier, or pigeon. That tells of an attack and its magnitude, and either calls for support from the militia outpost or alerts other villages to move to the militia fort.

Without the people in the villages, there's less reason for attackers to spend time in them. I don't mean there aren't circumstances where they pillage, loot, destroy, but I do mean I think there are situations where they won't.

You're right that they'd be more vulnerable on the roads, but they'd also be prepared for a fight.
 
Here is the thing. Villages aren't there for fun.

They are where the need/resources are.

Lumber camps, Farms, mining camps, peat bogs,etc.

These resource areas are scattered all over the province and so the living spaces for the workers need to be as well.

You can't cluster all the people into an Urban setting. They wouldn't have access to do their jobs.

Remember the time period, cities and towns will only make up 10-15% of the total population. Most people farm and need to live on those farms to care for them.
 
I'm not suggesting abandoning the villages. I'm suggesting building the equivalent of fortified fallout shelters always staffed by militia, for the people *in* the villages to rush to in the event of an attack. Where they'll hold up until it is no longer dangerous, at which point they'd return to their villages.
 
I'm not suggesting abandoning the villages. I'm suggesting building the equivalent of fortified fallout shelters always staffed by militia, for the people *in* the villages to rush to in the event of an attack. Where they'll hold up until it is no longer dangerous, at which point they'd return to their villages.

Makes sense and I believe our fortify actions in the past already set up those mini-keeps all over the province already.

Edit: Note that while you did not suggest getting rid of villages the person above you did.
 
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Dude, there's no point in dragging this subject we are at least months or years before we can do national actions due how this chain of wars is shapping up to be
 
yes, but star forts >>>>>>> castles, at least if we go by irl fortress efficiency. Comparing a castle to a star fort is a bit like comparing a musket to an assault rifle.
True, but as you yourself have said, they cost accordingly. There is no way we transform every minor noble's castle, every fortified village and army camp into a star fort. We don't have the funds. Even if we do start building star forts they would be around major cities, key strategic postions and other places of great importance. Most other locations will have to do with lesser fortifications.
 
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Not sure if brought up before, but I wonder if dwarfs of Barak Var have invented sea mines at all yet since dwarf submarines are a thing.

They are great for forcibly funneling just where enemy ships can go if they don't want to blow up, or just plain blowing up enemies who don't care about causalities.

Would be nice to have those in front of port city once rebuilt for us if they are a thing, or maybe inspire our engineers to make sea mines since we already got landmines.
 
Interesting to read. They are obviously talking about Elspeth, Agatha and Alisa and are somewhat uncomfortable about their magic, but the focus on them being mercenaries seems much more important. They know that the twins are her sisters, so Alexandra probably needs to assuage the fragile Kislev mindset of not relying on outsiders to get shot done, while also legitimizing herself by not getting her family too involved.

It's good to see that Alex has everyone on a tight leash. But if those three (two) are already cause for some to take offense, however minor, imagine what would have gone down if we had stormed Kislev.
A possibility I think that hasn't been brought up is... Because Elspeth, Alisa, and Agatha, are wizards of the Imperial Colleges of Magic, that puts them at a different angle of scrutiny than being mercenaries. There are no wizard mercenaries on the front page. Therefore it is not possible for Kislev to acquire wizards through mercenary contract at this time in 2344 IC unless unique circumstances permit. Such as blood relation, or Emperor Magnus pulling an intrigue angle into assisting Kislev as he is obligated to do through the Blue Steel Concordant of 2325 IC. The empire of the hammer-man cannot interfere in Kislev's civil war too much, otherwise a Romanov win would be criticized as outside interference. Still, the empire of hammer-man is being run by the greatest diplomat known to the empire in it's history. Hard to say the three Amethyst wizards aiding the Romanov side of the Kislev civil war cannot be Magnus the Pious's plan of action to assist Kislev without sending a army of the empire of hammer-man there. Harder still to believe Magnus the Pious was completely unaware of Kislev's current issues in 2344 IC. Could totally happen, but there is a somewhat mythical perception that Magnus the Pious is such a great emperor he does in fact know about the little intrigue issues and problems that happen in his empire and near his empire.
 
A possibility I think that hasn't been brought up is... Because Elspeth, Alisa, and Agatha, are wizards of the Imperial Colleges of Magic, that puts them at a different angle of scrutiny than being mercenaries. There are no wizard mercenaries on the front page. Therefore it is not possible for Kislev to acquire wizards through mercenary contract at this time in 2344 IC unless unique circumstances permit. Such as blood relation, or Emperor Magnus pulling an intrigue angle into assisting Kislev as he is obligated to do through the Blue Steel Concordant of 2325 IC. The empire of the hammer-man cannot interfere in Kislev's civil war too much, otherwise a Romanov win would be criticized as outside interference. Still, the empire of hammer-man is being run by the greatest diplomat known to the empire in it's history. Hard to say the three Amethyst wizards aiding the Romanov side of the Kislev civil war cannot be Magnus the Pious's plan of action to assist Kislev without sending a army of the empire of hammer-man there. Harder still to believe Magnus the Pious was completely unaware of Kislev's current issues in 2344 IC. Could totally happen, but there is a somewhat mythical perception that Magnus the Pious is such a great emperor he does in fact know about the little intrigue issues and problems that happen in his empire and near his empire.
I mean, that assumes that

1) Magnus knows that Alexandra is currently ruling as Queen Regent and/or knows the absolute clusterfuck of all sides that the civil war is currently.

2) Magnus knows that there is a vampire/skaven infestation and decided to send some specialists instead of assuming that Kislevites got sick of their tyrannical slaver despot and just had existing tensions explode of their own accord like everyone expected.

3) Magnus cares to actually intervene when Kislev has never been an ally of the Empire, but rather that of the Hohenzollerns. He has no reason to interfere in what otherwise appears to be a purely internal conflict with no bullshit from Chaos and other parties.

Imo it's far more likely that Agatha and Alyssa were coming back down through Kislev, saw the absolute clusterfuck it was and that Alexandra currently ruled as Regent, and badgered their mentor into sticking around to help her out.
 
There's a perfectly technically acceptable reason for them to go to Kislev rather than straight back to Altdorf, because it relates to their original mission statement of global undead manifestation examinations.

Kislev have the Eyeless, after all.
 
There's a perfectly technically acceptable reason for them to go to Kislev rather than straight back to Altdorf, because it relates to their original mission statement of global undead manifestation examinations.

Kislev have the Eyeless, after all.
Yes I'm sure the Twins were very passionate and eager to get to Kislev to get busy investigating the Eyeless.
 
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