An Idea: We take a page out of the Wulfenbach Empire playbook.

Release the Sparks!

We could always ask if anybody at the Engineering school has made anything that's explosive, dangerous and/or cannon or siege weapon launch-able to throw at the very large targets that are coming our direction? It's field test day! There's bound to be even just a handful of slightly mad engineers.

Alternatively maybe Anna's had a thought.
"Do you have anything that can kill a city?"
"Well, now that you mention it..."

Later

Mushroom Cloud
 
Wait...
Kalara?

She retained her sanity in the end?

Memories are extractable if one has the right magic and is an incarnate form of a Goddess and is bound through the eldest forest in the world which is symbiotically connected with all the fey and elves that have lived within it for so long.

Like...if you had a roll of film reel, and what you needed to see was some early bits...does it really matter that it looks like someone with a knife fetish got at the parts afterwards?
 

I know this was and is a serious matter, that will cause effects in the elves nation(s) for a long time.

But my muse for some reason decide to make this. so since now part of me see the physical manifestations of the divine mother of elves going something like this:

Everqueen: 'Bruh are we finally cool with each other?'
Mage-queen: 'Bruh we are, you totally got my back, when you healed by back and other stuff bruh'
Everqueen: 'Bruh we should totally continue to got each back, I send my bruh to help you you send your bruh to help me too'.
[a quick bruh approach]
little Bruh : 'My Bruh, we finish talking with the totally not cool no-bruh . the un-bruhs had a big part in trying to take your man!'
Mage-queen: 'No shit!'
Little Bruh: 'Yes shit!'.
Everqueen and Mage-queen: 'This un-bruh behavior will stop right now. The bruhs have spoken!'.

[meanwhile]
Bruh in Heaven: 'Daughter, you are like, in so much shit right now'.
un-daughter: 'I not your daughter, the OO made us all'.
Bruh in Heaven: 'Bitch, my bruh fist will correct that in no time! Bruh.'

Sorry for this, I could not resist^^.
 
so we might be able to get them to send aid to wherever the Druchii land when the time comes.

I am finding it very hard to care about what Gunther thinks, Seriously fuck that guy. At least his kids are a bit more sensible than that granite rock of hatred and stubbornness.

Thats a good point but the NT is fighting Druchii not Greenskins which Magnus has a bonus for.

Torroars post about the Dwarves oath being with the Empire and not with Frederick himself and added that they will understand if Freddie does not send reinforcements due to the Druchii Black arks. I am going to change my vote.
[X] Protect the Homeland

Yep. Oaths are for the Empire as a whole.

Would the dawi welcome and appreciate Frederick's aid? Of course.

But they are perfectly capable of understanding that you can't always be the one going out and being a big damn hero, sometimes you have to be the one trusted to defend the home.

If the Empire was not sending any aid, or minimal aid, it would be a different story and I would be arguing to send some of Ostland's troops.

But that's not the case here.
 
@torroar are the empire armies expected to arrive to kak before tha waaagh hits?

They're gonna try real, real hard.

Again, numbers cannot be precisely calculated for this, because greenskins travel in huge unruly mobs, some breaking off and returning from the wilderness, new ones popping up from sludge fungal pits, others just showing up because they've been traveling and following their shaman's ravings, and some are dying or otherwise being injured daily because of the regular scrapping going on.

But based on what scouting reports they have been, the Emperor would very much like to be behind/on/in the walls of Karaz-a-Karak rather than try to challenge even a flank of the WAAAAGH!! on the open field. Because that would very, very easily lead to a huge chunk of the WAAAAGH!! detaching, encircling, and crushing the entire Imperial army by way of the tried tactic of 'we are literally surrounding you in every direction except below and up and even then we've got some stuff', while the rest of the WAAAAGH!!! keeps Everpeak bottled up. Because generally, once the horde reaches a size like this, you need to beat them in a defensive battle, i.e. at the walls of Everpeak, Black Fire Pass, across a rough river crossing with only a few points of entry, etc. Challenging them flat out in the open field is where sheer numbers will begin to ameliorate most advantages. Unless you're necromancers who can just continually raise the dead. Or Chaos forces that could grow empowered on bloodshed, or start summoning daemons, or whatever.
 
So I've just been seeing people make new choices on their votes but I wonder if people have removed their old votes or not.
(After much thought, I decided to add my vote to the count.)

[x] Protect the Homeland
 
I think Gunther is, while not warming up to us, actually coming to accept our continued existence. Might have been the situation at hand, but he seemed much more focused on the actual topics, when compared to the Feuerbach rage boner.
 
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[X] Protect the Homeland

I'd like to support the dwarfs, but at this moment i don¨t see how we could send any concivable meaningfull forces that wouldn't just be there for cheerleading. And if the matter is of protecting the Dynasty, Could always send the children to Nuln or some other safer place of the empire, if the danger seem to become such a wide degree. Not that the Death twins won't be around anyhow
 
@torroar Is this the kind of situation that would have Emperor Magnus, truly the most PIOUS, call for Martial Law? Or calling the militia to action in preparation for a possible hidden enemy? Or something to that effect anyway.
 
So I've just been seeing people make new choices on their votes but I wonder if people have removed their old votes or not.
(After much thought, I decided to add my vote to the count.)

[x] Protect the Homeland
any new vote from same person overwrites older votes from the same person for the sake of tally
 
On a completely different tangent, most of you seem to think other places in the empire being safer than our home city, well you might not exactly be completely correct on that.
We've built tons of defenses into that place, and we've had witch hunters cleanse out most of our bigger internal foes. (such as the chaos cultists that killed most of Freddy's family before and also other things, heck we've even worked on skaven proofing the damn place)
 
And if the matter is of protecting the Dynasty, Could always send the children to Nuln or some other safer place of the empire, if the danger seem to become such a wide degree.

If Malagor strikes while all of Wissenlands army and knightly orders are bottled up defending KaK Nuln will not be particularily safe. It may well be completely unable to muster any defence against him. Probably less safe than Wulfenburg, even if we have to fight Dark Elves and Beastmen at the same time.
 
sorry soulcake looks like we won't be helping the dorfs after all

feels kinda shitty to be askin for help from their ships but we aint sending any back
 

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PRITHEE, hail and well met all!

Tis I, torroar, friendly author and master of games! Once again, in the interest of my long-term health, I have absconded to the gymnasium. This very moment I am, just as before, upon a cardio machine. In the interests of maintaining a high heart rate, so that more calories are burned and cardiovascular health maintained and hopefully improved in the long-term, I cannot help but admit that my authorial abilities will be vastly reduced. For you see, I will be typing the following, and this itself, with one hand, while rapidly moving my body, with but one hand to hold on to the machine so that I do not tip, trip, or fly off of it and cause great injury to myself.

This decision placed 'pon your votes, is a hard one. It was purposefully made to be so! There are grave consequences one way or another, especially with regards to what seems a main contested point: as to the location and directives given to Magnus von Hohenzollern, son and heir to Frederick!

As to other worries for provinces providing aid, worry not! Middenland shall be more than happy to safeguard the refugees and broken remnants of Ostland and Nordland's soldiery as they retreat from the coast, all the better to prove once more that it is Middenland that rules and should be commanding the North of the Empire once more! Within the encompassing arms of the Wolves, the pack will once more by righted! And when they fall in line, Middenheim will no doubt rally its troops from elsewhere in the Empire where they will be deployed - all the better to aid those who are sending all their strength to Karaz-a-Karak, temporarily to swiftly and surely reclaim the lost territories if any.

Additionally! Oh, the irony that must be suffered, for though they would never admit it, the Sons of Adolf Fuerbach did and do indeed believe Frederick's warnings from some years past about the dangers of the beastmen! They are of Taal's province, the deep forests, the wild places, and so are deeply concerned about the mysterious absence of the beastmen for so many years! Unlike proud Middenland, sure in their ability to deal with any issue that might threaten mighty Middenheim, the Fuerbachs are greatly concerned enough to desire to keep their forces at the ready! Furthermore, they shall aid the provinces which are dedicating the whole of their armies to the fighting at Karaz-a-Karak, and in doing so, hopefully may safeguard them from the threat of beastmen and forest goblins alike! These forest-borne sons will never admit it to Frederick or Ostland's face, but their pragmaticism is not yet overwhelmed by bitter hatred as in their ancient father! So yes! Much of the southern Empire must be protected from this! Yet, it so too must be acknowledged that, while not as poisoned as their father, both have drunk the bitter draught of loss, of men and their sister, and so intend to watch and wait to see if the oh-so-mighty Trident is victorious or not.

Luckily, or perhaps not, by the reckoning of some or others, Ostermark is hardly coastal as a province. What threat do the Druchii pose to them? Why, to many, it is hardly a consideration that they would require any military aid at all, for they are comfortable enough sending half of their troops to aid their fellow Trident members.

Of course, another issue be that Frederick's political position and history is strong. His prestige, both in terms of numbers and quality, is quite significant! Surely, the Unkillable, the Steel Bull, can handle this situation? To be fair, no time in the history of the Empire has a Black Ark been destroyed, but success has been found in retreats, in evacuations, in ensuring the lowest amount possible of deaths and enslavements. Salkalten may be lost - a tragedy - but would the Druchii truly try to strike inward into the very depths of the province? Likely not, so goes the thinking of some. They shall raid the coasts, and take what they will, for it is what they have done in the past. If the Trident has offended them greatly, they may stay longer, but the forces of the Trident are strong, have proven themselves time and again! Is it possible, then, to have too much faith in someone's abilities, if they succeed again and again? Toppenheimer, for instance, in all her zealotry, is sure that one touched and remade by Sigmar cannot fail in such a task, regardless of the sheer threat that a single Black Ark poses, let alone two. At the same time, it cannot be ignored that Ava von Krieglitz, of Stirland, would actually have preferred to send her forces to aid the Trident, who have been building better relations with Stirland, for in her eyes it is the Black Arks that are the more dangerous fight for the Empire. Alas! She cannot, for prior agreements made force her hand, and strange, tis it not, how swiftly the Grand Theogonist leapt to the fore? Idle zealotry, true faithfulness? Or how is it that the two provinces he was meeting with prior to the Meet beginning early are so swift to dedicate the totality of their military strength? The Emperor found this suspicious, might you as well? How did the Grand Theogonist prepare this position so swiftly, promise so many Sigmarite Knightly Orders, and more?

Mayhaps there is a zealot, a poor, mind-broken thing with only sparse bursts of independence, that battles in the Deeps of Karaz-a-Karak, and in the deeps of her own soul and mind.

Who sent a message which arrived before the Emperor's did by way of Sigmarite courier rather than dwarf ambassador.

For instance, on such matters of assumption and faith. I myself injured my elbow when imagining that I could handle the highest cable weight for triceps exercise at the gymnasium, to the point of lifting the entire stack. I did so before! Except, shock, pain, confusion! Despite prior successes at similar deeds and acts, the momentary conditions (level of sleep, nutrition the prior day, grip, prior exercises differing with a changing routine) were different! Different enough, despite my ignorance of the issues potential caused, that an injury was sustained despite prior success multiple times.

Furthermore, I believe I espied a question about the size of the Black Arks. Hark! They are massive edifices. How massive? Why, they are cities! Elven cities, to be sure, but cities all the same. Floating cities, pieces of Ulthuan - specifically that dread land known as Nagarythe - that were forcibly broken off with ludicrously powerful and intricate spellcraft. These are heavily fortified cities of the elden days of yore, when the elven peoples were at their height. While some Black Arks, yes, are smaller than others, the difference is somewhat negligible when a large actual entire city-sized island comes crashing down onto one's coast. Such cities carry with them slaves aplenty, for pleasure and punishment, cruel druchii in significant number, monstrous beasts, and even ??? on occasion. They come complete, every one, with attendant fleets of raider vessels eager to plunder and destroy, swift and deadly ships that are afeared across the Old World and beyond! Do not be tricked by certain names, like Tower of Suffering, for an individual Black Ark has many towers, buildings, streets and walkways, bridges and dungeons, gladiatorial arenas, palatial manors, barracks, foundries, assembly areas, towers of respite and training for certain beasts gifted with flight, and places of dread ritual, all within their walls.

Hark!

They are big.

Petition to have this post threadmarked. It gave me a hearty LOL.

Also Jesus that post was a good reminder of why I hate Gunthar as much as I do. What a prick.
 
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