Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism
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AzraelvonGruber
probably should put something here...
- Location
- somewhere in France
it's cute that you think the rebels can win against Kattarin
I mean the girl is the living incarnation of a Fimbulwinter and has a lots of competents minions, How could they win without causing MASSIVES colatéral damage ? I mean they are not dumb enough to cause a civil that would destroy kislev... Right ?
All I'm saying is that Kislev is a piece of ex-Ostland clay on Ostland's borders, that Natasha is still a member of Kattarin's dynasty, that we are told not to interfere with Kislev's internal affairs while Kattarin still rules Kislev and that Alexandra's Romanov heritage(and her Chekist activities) means she'll probably be targeted by the rebels when the revolution comes.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Are you implying that owning Kislev would be desirable? You couldn't pay me to live in that place, let alone rule it.
We've already got one harsh frontier we're trying to contain, we don't need another.
It's a better idea than any ventures into Nehekhara, Lustria or Norsca. And not only because it means not sending our fleet away.
In the meantime, we'd get to spend our time building up our forces, waiting for something that might never happen.
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- alphen aan den rijn
so act pretty much like any other reasonable military leader ever in the history of ever?
i think prepare and be ready for whatever come our way it like ostlands national bywords or something
because there is always something coming
ie; beastmen, orks, nordic raiders, random chaos attack nr ??, cults. and if all that does not show up then we have crime galore and any of the other elector counts / nobles who might want to start something because "reasons"
sure maybe we could go off raiding the north for our own reasons but the only thing something like that does it focus said warring tribes up there into not fighting among themselfs and more on us.
so not seeing the upside. not even talking about all the corruption up there.
No excursions please.
We have three campaigns gathering steam that could trigger anytime:
Massive black orc Waagh heading slowly towards blackfire pass.
Large Beastman horde growing and planning revenge on us for the Bloodfane
Sending aid to Albion to help drive off or kill the Druuchi Black Ark that has setup shop there.
We have three campaigns gathering steam that could trigger anytime:
Massive black orc Waagh heading slowly towards blackfire pass.
Large Beastman horde growing and planning revenge on us for the Bloodfane
Sending aid to Albion to help drive off or kill the Druuchi Black Ark that has setup shop there.
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- Location
- Africa
Middenland is the closer more appealing target (being a capital and major holy site) and has likely been spending all sorts actions against the Drakwald forest which would have gained them a lot more agro than the destruction of any one shrine no matter how old it was . doesn't help that after the wolf crusade Middenland lost like half it population and spread itself even thinner by sending troops into the middle mountains
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Freddy killed the Father of all Centigors. It's very personal.
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- Africa
Dark Omen the guy in charge of the beastmen right now could not give less of a shit about him if he tried after all he is chaos there reaction to one of there own falling isn't " we will avenge you !" its " Ha good residence " ,
"He died cause he was week" or "He is unworthy for the gods have turned there back on him"
chaos factions don't have friendships or any thing of the sort ,they have temporary alliances of convenience then turn on each other
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- Norway
Apropos threats out and about, didn't a orc Waagh decide to embark onto the high seas randomly way back when? Can't remember if they have hit shore yet. I am just waiting for them to suddenly barge into the Sea of Claws at the most inopportune time because they have heard that Freddy makes for a good fight.
Malagor is kind of the Pope of Beastmen. Beastlords tend to follow his commandments but it's more advisory than hard authority.
The Centigor might be doing their own separate thing right now.
The Centigor might be doing their own separate thing right now.
We had an interlude about that. Waaagh!! Gorebash is stranded on the South Pole. No boats, no trees, just Beastmen.
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- Norway
Ohhh that was what that was! I was confused when I read it, thought it was just a showcase of some badass orcs toughing it out in the frozen wasteland slowly growing ever stronger as they fight both beastmen and the environment itself.
Anyway, on the military adventurism suggestions, I don't really understand why we would want to go off on a grand overseas adventure. We aren't really in a position to found a colony, we don't have the means really and we don't have any personal reason to go crusading. Maybe, and this is very much a maybe, there could be an argument that as good Ostlanders we have a duty to eradicate vampires of Luthor Harkons sort and the cult of Morr might arrange for some sort of crusade to end him in Lustria, but I don't think that will happen. The Cult of Morr seems mostly reactive, and I don't think they are in the habit of declaring crusades. As has been pointed out there are plenty of local or overland problems to deal with in the near future anyway.
Centigors are scary, but hopefully us helping Laureon now will end up propping the Wood Elves up which will act as a counterweight to the beastmen. Ariel having been cleansed is already a major win on that front I think, and the High Elves and the Wood Elves entering in some sort of discussion will hopefully end up with the Asrai having more resources to wage their war and not in a screaming match where everyone takes their toys and goes home. Maybe we can get some help identifying the beast ways in Ostland from them at the end of all this.
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there is only two things i want to do overseas, one is to get a trade deal with Araby, Border Princes and other place that we or Nuln dont sell guns to, so we can sell them our things and weapons. And the other thing i want is to burn down every village and towns on the Norsca coast while they only have Low- Pressure
Crafter of War
The Dorf
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- Bend
Didn't we just go over that we can't strip our navel forces or we'll be in a world of hurt?
And do you not know what happened when Ostland did that in canon?
we dont need to strip our navel forces to get a trade deal
i do, but even so Ostland and Kislev are much stronger then they were in canon and chaos has had a lot more setbacks since the The Great War Against Chaos. Even now they are most of the Norsca forces are battling the Dark Elfs. And we should not fear that we might trigger a chaos lord to come down and attack Ostland because that is gonna happen at somepoint even if we dont burn down every village and towns on the Norsca coast
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
I'd prefer to stick to stopping their raids. The Norscan coastline isn't any nicer than the rest of it.
we dont have to step a foot on any of the Norscan coastline or land as we can do a naval bombardment from the sea and destroy there village and towns and stop them from building more ships and the great side effect will be that we will kill a lot of there people doing so
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Storms and glaciers have destroyed more fleets than any ship. The Sea of Claws is treacherous in general, even more-so the farther north you go.
If we fail and lose a fleet, we're vulnerable.
NCRTrooper
Wishing For A Nuclear Winter
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- New York
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Do you want Mortkin? Because this is how you get Mortkin.
look we cant always be afraid of what might happen if we destroy village and towns in Norscan, because Mortkin or a other chaos lord is at somepoint gonna try and attack Ostland even if we dont destroy villages and towns in Norscan, so its better for us to attack Norscan when they are at a low point
NCRTrooper
Wishing For A Nuclear Winter
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- New York
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- He/Him
I thunk building up our navy would be a much better way to spend our resources than raiding Norsca. Prevention is the best cure.
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- Somewhere
If you want a trade deal overseas, you have to strip from your own naval defense for the ships. There are things in the ocean, things on the ocean, and things around the ocean. Can't send a expedition on water into the open without protection, and expect it to come back alive (Albion would probably be an exception because of how close to the Old World it is). Kattarin sent a expedition with her own fleet to obtain a money surge, it paid off for her.
i dont want to raid Norsca i want to destroy as much of the Norsca civilization as we can
- Location
- Reno Nv
That my friend has been tried and failed many, many, many times. It has only made the Norskins invade the empire with even more of a grudge and even more favor from their gods. If anything, we should build up our navy even more, and keep up the coastal infrastructure and defenses.