I'd give you more examples but I'm on mobile. if you go back a couple of pages one of my posts has the US cloak and Italian ones for dress uniforms. There's also polish highlanders, probably some French units
 
I'd give you more examples but I'm on mobile. if you go back a couple of pages one of my posts has the US cloak and Italian ones for dress uniforms. There's also polish highlanders, probably some French units

If we're taking advice from the French and Italians when it comes to war, something has already gone horribly wrong.
 
I didn't really want to add that to it and clutter things up with its past incarnations. ONA-20-G as an organization has probably been with Starfleet as long as there has been a Starfleet, under one name or another. It's just on Mars now because while they didn't want it on Earth, they also needed a big facility where it could "get lost" and for a long time the only Starfleet facilities large enough were in San Fran.
Alternatively, it was always on Mars, back when Mars was the middle of nowhere, and they're so obscure no one even remembered this office existed during the construction, so they quietly moved their offices into an underused office wing aboard one of Utopia Planitia's supporting space stations. :)

If we're taking advice from the French and Italians when it comes to war, something has already gone horribly wrong.
We are not taking their advice in matters of war, where they are admittedly deficient at times. We are taking their advice in matters of fashion, where they are supreme.

Also, does your omake means we can ask for Klingon's aid in planetary restoration when we need it?
We just have to quietly let it be known that we're looking for a few experienced terraformers, and that the benefits package includes getting to shout a lot and call people fools whenever they screw up. :)
 
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Why? Honestly, name any armed service that would use a cloak in its uniform, actually any service that has a uniform, period. I can't think of any, but I can think of quite a few that have some form of headwear, so I would think that it would be a better idea to add some form of hat to dress uniforms than a cloak.

Current? Terminal Lance #398 "Wondrous Sundries"

Older?

Uniforms : Napoleonic Wars : French : Russian : Austrian : British : Prussian

Look at the bottom, for cavalry greatcoats.
 
I've been on and off sketching a uniform design for a while for fun, myself.
Something like this



The badge would change color by dept, the left shoulder patch would have writing identify their division (regular, explorer corp, shipyard, administration, etc.) and have a stylized UFP Seal. The right shoulder patch would be a specific mission patch ala modern astronautics. I used the All Good Things badge because honestly it looks the best of them all to me >_>

edit: Massively reduced image size after seeing it fill up my screen by accident >.>

That's really neat..... Wait a minute....POCKETS!??!?!?!?!?!

!

> : D

Also: I don't think the uniform would have buttons though. The actual current uniform has magnetic seals IIRC and the clasp. Oh, Can the clasp still be part of the design? We don't really need pips, just ranks insignia on the clasp and the cuffs.
 
Maybe until 2300?

Also, does your omake means we can ask for Klingon's aid in planetary restoration when we need it?
Gaaah, fixed, and probably not, They're pretty fully invested and we probably can't offer a battle as glorious as the Restoration of Qo'nos, not until we wait for them to get done with the harsh struggle against nature.
 
The Klingons probably have a slightly better appreciation of science now, since it is their weapon against the wrath of nature.
 
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To be fair, these are Klingons coming out of TOS, and there was never any particular evidence of the TOS-era Klingons denigrating science.

The "Klingons as savage thugs" meme always bothered me, because they are supposed to be a starfaring species capable of holding their own in the larger galaxy. They can't be morons, and they can't have ALL their technology be designed and run by despised and marginalized nerds.

It's why I found the idea so compelling that the Klingons actually did try to genetically enhance themselves at some point, and went for brains and longevity, rather than the strength and hardiness we might stereotypically expect them to go for. And that it worked, to some extent, so that the Klingons tend to compensate for being on the rowdy and combat-oriented side by also being smarter than they look. So they can keep up that Space Age biker gang aesthetic outwardly, but under all the leather and armor they've got a surprising number of rocket scientists.
 
To be fair, these are Klingons coming out of TOS, and there was never any particular evidence of the TOS-era Klingons denigrating science.

The "Klingons as savage thugs" meme always bothered me, because they are supposed to be a starfaring species capable of holding their own in the larger galaxy. They can't be morons, and they can't have ALL their technology be designed and run by despised and marginalized nerds.

It's why I found the idea so compelling that the Klingons actually did try to genetically enhance themselves at some point, and went for brains and longevity, rather than the strength and hardiness we might stereotypically expect them to go for. And that it worked, to some extent, so that the Klingons tend to compensate for being on the rowdy and combat-oriented side by also being smarter than they look. So they can keep up that Space Age biker gang aesthetic outwardly, but under all the leather and armor they've got a surprising number of rocket scientists.

STUDY FLOWERS FOR THE EMPIRE!

SUBMIT DAISY! SUBMIT!
 
They could always think of Science as a battle against ignorance, Medicine as a battle against diseases, and Engineering as a battle with and against nature.

Not all battles involve combat with bat'leths and disruptors. Their scientists and engineers could be considered as warriors in their own right, warriors of a different battlefield, serving the Empire nonetheless.
 
I'm going to go with "Yes! That too!"

The image of research as a struggle against the unknown helps explain why Klingons value science (possibly also helps explain the Amarki). The genetic enhancement, in my opinion, helps explain how they can act like a bunch of bozos and still be getting any science done.
 
The Klingons are dumb meme has never really been supported by canon. They have consistantly been a technological peer to the Federation and they have pulled off their fair share of technological dues est machina.

I just think some people see the cultural window dressing and go "space barbarians warriors, of course they aren't into science", when its pretty clear in context that yes they really are a first rate interstellar civilization with all that entails.
 
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STUDY FLOWERS FOR THE EMPIRE!

SUBMIT DAISY! SUBMIT!
You know how we've been pouring RP into Computer techs, and are now looking at getting the '20s techs in this decade? The Klingons have been doing that with the biosciences to speed up their terraforming rate and maybe pick up Radiotropic Fungi or Gaia Transformation along the way.
 
To be fair, these are Klingons coming out of TOS, and there was never any particular evidence of the TOS-era Klingons denigrating science.

The "Klingons as savage thugs" meme always bothered me, because they are supposed to be a starfaring species capable of holding their own in the larger galaxy. They can't be morons, and they can't have ALL their technology be designed and run by despised and marginalized nerds.

It's why I found the idea so compelling that the Klingons actually did try to genetically enhance themselves at some point, and went for brains and longevity, rather than the strength and hardiness we might stereotypically expect them to go for. And that it worked, to some extent, so that the Klingons tend to compensate for being on the rowdy and combat-oriented side by also being smarter than they look. So they can keep up that Space Age biker gang aesthetic outwardly, but under all the leather and armor they've got a surprising number of rocket scientists.

TODAY, we will win a GREAT VICTORY against the forces of IGNORANCE, and expand the FRONTIER of Klingon knowledge of UNIFIED SUPSPACE FIELD THEORY!!!!!
 
Those who gave their lives to stop (name of plague) are worthy of entering Sto'Vo'Kor...
 
You know how we've been pouring RP into Computer techs, and are now looking at getting the '20s techs in this decade? The Klingons have been doing that with the biosciences to speed up their terraforming rate and maybe pick up Radiotropic Fungi or Gaia Transformation along the way.

You know, a custom intelligence report we could ask for some year is a comparison of Federation technology with one of the other Great Powers. Find out where they're ahead/behind us.
 
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