To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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While I find the paper tiger plan funny I don't think it's a good idea. One of our biggest strengths is that no-one thinks we'll pull that kind of stuff. That means that when we do (Sulu blows up a star to destroy a Cardassian base) no-one suspects us!
Losing that kind of plausible deniability is a big loss compared to solving a minor problem like the Sydraxians. So far all they've cost us are a few UE cargo ships, the pp for the new SBZ and having ships to guard against them. Annoying but not that significant to us as a whole. We'll deal with them using other means. Maybe friendly diplomacy, maybe Excelsiors to the face.
Either way the SBZ should stop this raiding until we decide what to do.
Losing that kind of plausible deniability is a big loss compared to solving a minor problem like the Sydraxians. So far all they've cost us are a few UE cargo ships, the pp for the new SBZ and having ships to guard against them. Annoying but not that significant to us as a whole. We'll deal with them using other means. Maybe friendly diplomacy, maybe Excelsiors to the face.
Either way the SBZ should stop this raiding until we decide what to do.
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Ah, but it's a sub-nanogram so it's some undefined amount less than that. Evidently enough to pain the ceiling while enough less than a nanogram to still leave a ceiling.
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Can we set an aggressive patrol?
Also, I propose that we disable or capture one raider ship for each destroyed civilian ship.
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Then they'd be warships.
We can either go with fast or well-armed.
Well-armed means expensive. Meanwhile, fast-armed means good for trade, which offsets the expense.
One freighter with a couple 6 in guns will not be able to take out a cruiser. It may be able to buy time for the convoy to escape, but it will not survive.
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Q-ships would require a design, prototype and build and probably won't be ready for about 10 years. That plus disguised and armed ships would probably count for militarization.
The term that you're looking for is a Q ship.
Trek tech supports this, I think, but I'm not sure it's something we have in our current bag of tricks.
This.
Also ninjas.
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I think your numbers are a bit off. While 1ng of antimatter reacting with 1ng of matter does give 180MJ of energy not all of that is released in a useful form. The energy release tends towards the following split:
So the explosion is going to be, at most, equvilant to 13kg of TNT. That said the real killer is the 81MJ of gamma rays released. If I've done my math right, which I very well may not have, that much radiation is lethal out to 449 meters.
Of course the Federations advanced medical tech may help there but odds are a lot more then just the two listed in the report are dead.
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Does also depend on where exactly it happened and how many layers of thick shielded material were between them and everyone else.
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Your analysis is good.
I'd forgotten that the gamma rays would likely penetrate the walls of the room, rather than stopping IN the walls of the room or otherwise being released within the room. However, you will note that "13 kg" is indeed "between four and forty." Indeed, on a log scale it is half way between "four and forty," being a little more than three times four, and a little less than one third of forty.
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It's more of modifying actual freighters than making Q-ships from scratch.
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You are forgetting that it says 'Sub-Nanogram', not 'One nanogram'. The blast strength can be reduced porpotionally as a result.
Indeed that's why I was going to add the words "upper bound" but then forgot...
Anyway! It has to be more then 1 picogram since otherwise they'd have said sub-picogram. 1pg antimatter + 1pg matter gives ~180KJ. That drops the explosive yield down to 13 grams of TNT and the lethal radiation range down to 32.5 meters.
Incidentally I just realized what I did wrong here:
I didn't properly convert between units so the actual range should be 89 meters.
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Oh, puh-lease, Gaeni civilisation would have long ceased to exist entirely if they weren't very good about ensuring anti-radiation shielding is included in all building structures and very high-quality radiation therapy is available cheaply.
Side-note: Tourists be sure to take your iodine tablets before beaming down.
Side-note: Tourists be sure to take your iodine tablets before beaming down.
UbeOne
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Don't forget to bring a Geiger counter with you!
Or at least have a tricorder or PADD app for that.
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full on Q-ships might be a no go, but would something like a freighter full of mines or torpedo pods work as a trap? essentially working like an event that raiders would have to check aginst to avoid destruction or damage.
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Welcome to Gaen. Here, have some complimentary Rad-Away. No seriously, take it. Take it right now.
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ClawClawBite
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No, take these anti-radiations nanites. Much more effective, and there have only been a few cases of spontaneous humanoid combustion this week from them.
UbeOne
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Can you elaborate? I have not read that.
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