To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

Shard · Dec 5, 2016

Whats the name voting like?

ThoughtMaster · Dec 5, 2016

Nervos Belli said:
Four, with one more on the way. The only real purpose our Oberths serve is to provide a Science roll in sectors where we can't afford to put an Excelsior. We don't want to spam out science ships until we've designed a newer one that's slightly more durable.

I thought their purpose was to maintain coverage of our interior? As for durability, I honestly don't think it would matter much if our science ships used TP for a hull, because they aren't meant for front line combat. They are meant as surveyors, telling us what we have within the federation, which is something that we desperately need right now.

Muramasa · Dec 5, 2016

[X][CREW] Explorer Corps
[X][BUILD] Two Excelsiors and One Connie-B
[X][NAME] USS Polaris

Because I like the idea of not retiring ships before their time.

Muer'ci · Dec 5, 2016

AKuz said:
I'd be content with three 5YMs. I'll rest after fifteen years. (Then we can directly chuck her directly into the Admiralty like Kirk > : P)

This Is probably a joke, but I kinda hope it doesn't go like this :/

nocarename · Dec 5, 2016

Muer'ci said:
This Is probably a joke, but I kinda hope it doesn't go like this :/

Agreed. It's a different set of skills saving the Federation with one ship, maybe two, compared to wrangling a whole stack of hulls across a sector.
And that's just jumping someone into a Commodore slot. Admiralty slots are even worse.
Possibly, part of Kirk's problems with his promotion was that no one actually taught him how to Admiral. People taught him how to Captain, extensively, by the book and by example.
He just got kicked upstairs hard because he maxed out his 'Saved the Federation' Loyalty card and there was nowhere left to punch holes on it for extra time in the field rewards.

If we want an Admiral Nash, we need to walk her through her entire education and not try and skip grades. Socialization and institutional knowledge are vital here.

AlphaDelta · Dec 5, 2016

Muer'ci said:
This Is probably a joke, but I kinda hope it doesn't go like this :/

Probably Syndicate TF commander, EC Ops director, Academy Commandant, SF Intel, EC Commander, then Tactical.

Those are the jobs I can see Nash doing, approximately in order.

OneirosTheWriter · Dec 6, 2016

AlphaDelta said:
Probably Syndicate TF commander, EC Ops director, Academy Commandant, SF Intel, EC Commander, then Tactical.

Those are the jobs I can see Nash doing, approximately in order.

This somehow makes me think of Seruk picking out Job Description Forms and taunting Nash with them.

"Ah what about this one: Shipyard Director? Or Deputy Director to the JAG? Would you like to see how the other half lives? Director of Weapon Systems Fabrication? You certainly went through your fair share of photon torpedoes and emitter systems."

"I hate you with the power of a thousand suns, Seruk."

"You will find that I don't care, so long as you stop clogging my promotion pathways."

Simon_Jester · Dec 6, 2016

Derek58 said:
Nothing says that it has to be the same as in canon.

It already won't be. None of the existing Constellations is named Stargazer. But the spirit of the Stargazer (an old ship, a clunky ship in ways, but a well-loved one) is preserved if we make her a Constitution-B.

SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
Interesting that Saavik is going for a 10 year captaincy. I suppose it's too early to promote her to Commodore, as it's her first command.

Given that Vulcans are much longer-lived than humans, Andorians, or Tellarites, I suspect they have different rules for seniority. Otherwise, all senior command slots would be occupied by Vulcans, because a Vulcan can keep working up through the age of 100 or 150 before retirement. So it may well be that Saavik has to accrue considerably more seniority in grade before she's eligible for flag rank.

SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
Thuir is promoted I see.

Just out of curiosity, where did you see that? I seem to have missed some important source of information that everyone else but me possesses.

NHO · Dec 6, 2016

If we want to do Potemkin Starships, we need to call the project "Experimental Diplomatic Hulk Disposal".
Because it's Hulk Disposal, in non-traditional ways, hence experimental. With the purpose to improve our diplomatic standing with Sydraxians.
So, we are telling complete truth that makes other people think we are covering up the loss of ships and face. Oh, and convenient retirement as "Taking the fall"

AKuz · Dec 6, 2016

Simon_Jester said:
It already won't be. None of the existing Constellations is named Stargazer. But the spirit of the Stargazer (an old ship, a clunky ship in ways, but a well-loved one) is preserved if we make her a Constitution-B.

Given that Vulcans are much longer-lived than humans, Andorians, or Tellarites, I suspect they have different rules for seniority. Otherwise, all senior command slots would be occupied by Vulcans, because a Vulcan can keep working up through the age of 100 or 150 before retirement. So it may well be that Saavik has to accrue considerably more seniority in grade before she's eligible for flag rank.

Just out of curiosity, where did you see that? I seem to have missed some important source of information that everyone else but me possesses.

I've found that the way of determining relative age for Vulcanoids seems to be AGE/2 + (Whatever number is made by cutting of the 1s column)

ie 54= (54/2) +5 for 32 total

100 equals 60

64 equals 38

AlphaDelta · Dec 6, 2016

AKuz said:
I've found that the way of determining relative age for Vulcanoids seems to be AGE/2 + (Whatever number is made by cutting of the 1s column)

ie 54= (54/2) +5 for 32 total

100 equals 60

64 equals 38

Btw, where is the personnel DB sheet?

I'm imagining some poor Vulcan in personnel trying to resist the urge to nerve pinch the person who made a spreadsheet instead of a database.

Void Stalker · Dec 6, 2016

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[15][NAME] USS Stargazer

Derek58
Aeondrac
AKuz
anon_user
drake_azathoth
Glassware
HearthBorn
Iron Wolf
JesseJ
KleverKil'Vanya
kyuden
pheonix89
Shard
Vehrec
Void Stalker

[7][NAME] James T. Kirk

fitzgerald
ClawClawBite
Gear
Leila Hann
Steven Kodaly
UberJJK
Winged One

[5][NAME] Kirk

Briefvoice
Happerry
Nervos Belli
pbluekan
UbeOne

[4][NAME] USS James T. Kirk

NHO
aeqnai
Japanime
Night

[2][NAME] Tiberius

Crazy Tom
Muer'ci

[1][NAME] Aelin

SynchronizedWritersBlock

[1][NAME] Maya

Mr Tebbs

[1][NAME] USS Polaris

Muramasa

[1][NAME] Jonathan Archer

AlphaDelta

Total No. of Voters: 39

Though with all the variations of Kirk those add up to 18

AlphaDelta · Dec 6, 2016

Ugh. I'm torn between two choices I dislike.

Kirk because he's only been 'dead' for a short period of time, and stargazer because ConnieB clunker.

I'll just stick with Jonathan Archer, though I personally dislike the name James T. Kirk less.

Simon_Jester · Dec 6, 2016

AKuz said:
I've found that the way of determining relative age for Vulcanoids seems to be AGE/2 + (Whatever number is made by cutting of the 1s column)

ie 54= (54/2) +5 for 32 total

100 equals 60

64 equals 38

[Dances around doing math-sorcery]

Half the age, plus about one tenth of the age...

So... three fifths of the age, then.

ClawClawBite · Dec 6, 2016

Simon_Jester said:
[Dances around doing math-sorcery]

Half the age, plus about one tenth of the age...

So... three fifths of the age, then.

<Tellerite> Zero Point Six Decimal!</Tellerite>

Algalon · Dec 6, 2016

[X][CREW] Explorer Corps

[X][NAME] USS Stargazer

[X][BUILD] Two Excelsiors and One Connie-B

lbmaian · Dec 6, 2016

JesseJ said:
7 are under construction and we're voting for an eighth now. After that probably no more as we'll be building Renaissances.

Briefvoice said:
It this vote goes like it has been going, we will have eight under construction.

As for next year, well, if this year's vote has been a bit boring I expect a lot of lively debate next year. We will have tons of options on how many Miranda refits we want to do versus starting some Centaur-As versus some Oberths or even possibly another Constitution-B (though I would recommend against).

So at least 8, maybe 9 if people really push for it.

EDIT: I kind of like the symbolism of 8. Weren't there 8 Constitutions in the original flight? Now 8 in the very last flight. Symbolic!

I proposed building 2 more Connie-B's next year and delaying the Constellation-A refit project:

lbmaian said:
After tweaking the spreadsheet a bit to take into account bonuses from expected research and Indorian membership (and assuming no additional mining colonies, affiliates, etc. other than what's already in the spreadsheet), we can fit in 2 more Connie-Bs in 2312, and delay the Constellation-A refit project to 2313. Still refits all 11 Mirandas and same Excelsior construction schedule. Might delay 2 Renaissances to make room for Constellation-A refits, or mothball a Constellation or so.

The advantages of that would be:

1) It shortens the "no cruiser commissioned" gap from 2315-2316 to just 2316, with 2 more Connie-Bs being completed by 2315, increasing our defense more rapidly.

2) If the ship design spreadsheet revamp goes through or an alternative ship refit spreadsheet is available by 2313, we could design a better refit (expected to be more expensive, but not in crew costs). Or there's the chance we could get a better refit design from Oneiros anyway by 2313, since the 2304 refit design would be nearly a decade old by then.

cast2007 · Dec 6, 2016

[X][CREW] Explorer Corps

[X][NAME] USS Stargazer

[X][BUILD] Two Excelsiors and One Connie-B

Let's save the Kirk for one of the Ambassadors.

Derek58 · Dec 6, 2016

cast2007 said:
Let's save the Kirk for one of the Ambassadors.

I can totally get behind this.

AlphaDelta · Dec 6, 2016

cast2007 said:
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps

[X][NAME] USS Stargazer

[X][BUILD] Two Excelsiors and One Connie-B

Let's save the Kirk for one of the Ambassadors.

The problem is that we bandwagon'd, and now we are stuck with these two.

One denies Picard a clunker, and the other denies a good Ambassador name.

Can we just have the Kirk duel the Sydraxians? Problem solved.

Kirk dies a valiant death, etc.

AlphaDelta · Dec 6, 2016

Derek58 said:
I can totally get behind this.

I could, but I want a clunker for Picard more.

Derek58 · Dec 6, 2016

AlphaDelta said:
One denies Picard a clunker, and the other denies a good Ambassador name.

Picard doesn't need a clunker though.

And please don't double post.

OneirosTheWriter · Dec 6, 2016

By the by, regarding certain Federation notables:

Rachel Garrett has entered the Academy this year
Jean-Luc Picard is turning 6 this year
Sisko's dad was born last year

AlphaDelta · Dec 6, 2016

Derek58 said:
Picard doesn't need a clunker though.

I want to give him one though, and that's reason enough for a tactical vote against.

[X][NAME] James T. Kirk

Void Stalker · Dec 6, 2016

AlphaDelta said:
I want to give him one though, and that's reason enough for a tactical vote against.

[X][NAME] James T. Kirk

I doubt an Excelsior would be considered a clunker

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