To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Not much excitement for the Enterprise this time around, and for once I think we found a colony site we won't be jumping on too quickly... at least until the Dawiar war is resolved.
The Cheron continues to do some solid work. Dragging it away from Vulcan and over to the CBZ has turned out to be very effective. I think it's had more action than the Kumari has.
Surprised the Captain is a Vulcan, given the tone of some of the other logs. Or maybe she was transferred over this year?
Nice! It sounds like there's still a lot of work for them to be full Federation members, but I like these bee women a lot, and having them as closer (and contributing) affiliates is pretty great.
One more in the Cardassian column, I guess, Though frankly I think the Cardassians are going to have their hands full with these guys. The Lecarre don't seem the types to be meek, submissive clients of anyone, and they're apparently willing to do anything to get the upper hand.
Nice as well! Any set of Captain's Logs we don't lose a ship is a good one.
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Going to say that the Captain has changed, but the crew is still out causing mayhem. I need to come up with the old Captain as well, going to be someone worth tracking, I think
ClawClawBite
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I'd be just as happy using the new possible mining site as an enticement during negotiations, and drawing a final boundary so it's in Deweir space.
And this is why you ended up in the EC Thuir ...
Tal Shiar infiltrators everywhere!Looks like Thuir is getting into the hang of things.
The Exploration Corps: the place where you put the the crazies whose skill equals their insanity so the rest of the Starfleet can work in peace.
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It'll keep the Obsidian Order's skills sharp! Which conveniently means they'll be expecting Lecarren tactics from us and thus be caught flatfooted by Even More Nash.
Derek58
Rocket Punch is Best Punch
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I hope they drive each other nuts
If the Constitution-A had survived the kerfluffle that preceeded our rise to power, it would have been a great Medium/Heavy Cruiser, and we would not have had the Constellation issue.
ClawClawBite
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I will say, they would have a lot more fun with us. They are welcome to climb high in the ranks of star fleet intelligence, and we give them a lot better of a large population to blend in. I mean, who would ever expect someone like a harmless tailor on a Federation station to actually be a senior level spy?
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If we want an Ambassador or Ambassador+ finished at the canon introduction time, we should start 2313/14.
To finish the techs in time, we need to start immediately
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So THAT'S where the absurdly good plastic surgery that everyone (especially the Cardassians) uses by the TNG era comes from. Race of natural paranoiacs does give us something to work with; what we know about the Cardassian MO is paranoia-inducing even for non Lecarre. We might not be able to ally with them ourselves, but we can undermine the cardies' own attempts to court them easily enough.
That duranium mine near the Dawiar border could be politically useful. We can offer them the location of a valuable resource near their space and even assistance in setting up a mining colony as part of our bid for peace with the Caitians and normalized Federation relations. Though speaking of the Dawiar, I'm a little disappointed in T'Mina for not taking that crew prisoner.
Nice that we've found a different kind of symbiosis with the Apiata. I was going to suggest a similar arrangement myself a while ago, but realized that this is probably the government's job to work out, not Starfleet's. Good that they managed.
That duranium mine near the Dawiar border could be politically useful. We can offer them the location of a valuable resource near their space and even assistance in setting up a mining colony as part of our bid for peace with the Caitians and normalized Federation relations. Though speaking of the Dawiar, I'm a little disappointed in T'Mina for not taking that crew prisoner.
Nice that we've found a different kind of symbiosis with the Apiata. I was going to suggest a similar arrangement myself a while ago, but realized that this is probably the government's job to work out, not Starfleet's. Good that they managed.
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Cteatus
A Guy Who Fell Down a Hole
Good.
I can only imagine the wonderful environmental control systems reliability upgrades the Bolians will spur.
...I'm talkin' bout poo, just for the record. Corrosive Bolian poo.
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At other places you talked about re-entering real space and such. Is there any reason why you are changing Star Trek warp travel from being an Alcubierre drive warping normal space to a kind of hyper(sub?)-drive? Reducing the different kinds of Phlebotinum because FTL communications already use subspace, maybe? The relatively plausible FTL (more plausible than hyper jumps anyway) is one of the things I generally like about Star Trek. Granted, they aren't always consistent about that.
Let's see. Canon introduction is 2320. If we take that as the date the first prototype is finished and the class officially enters service, it'll take 6 years to build. So starting in 2314. If we assume it starts in 2314Q4 right after the last round of research is finished in 2314Q3. Assume 4 levels of research done by our spiffy UP team (so they complete a tier every year). 2314, 2313, 2312, 2311. So we would have to ask for the project to begin in the 2311 Snakepit.
So we could research this year and next year before starting the project. Is that how you're looking at it?
EDIT: Incidentally, that puts us considerably ahead of schedule for the Reniassance, completing it in 2314 instead of 2320, so maybe being slightly behind schedule on the Ambassador makes sense. We prioritized the cruiser instead of the Explorer.
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I just did some rough calculations on Nash's age, if we get the Ambassador in service in the 2320s, we can have her in the Captain's chair of the Ent-C if something happens to the B. she'd be in her 50s, so still in Captaining age.
pheonix89
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Guys, I just caught a flaw in all three plans.
We get a plus 5 inspiration bonus to one random subtech per team. Which mean we can finish T2: 2310s Computing Installations with Starfleet Science Academy because there's only one tech to draw the bonus: Need 7 points, 5 from inspiration + 6 from team = 11. And switching the Daystrom team over to T2: 2310s Shipboard Computing finishes all three techs this turn, while using Starfleet Science Academy finishes either one or two. Which means when we go to finish it we'll only progress in a single subtech. Using Daystrom on Shipboard computing also means that we get more overflow progress.
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Guys, I just caught a flaw in all three plans.
We get a plus 5 inspiration bonus to one random subtech per team. Which mean we can finish T2: 2310s Computing Installations with Starfleet Science Academy because there's only one tech to draw the bonus: Need 7 points, 5 from inspiration + 6 from team = 11. And switching the Daystrom team over to T2: 2310s Shipboard Computing finishes all three techs this turn, while using Starfleet Science Academy finishes either one or two. Which means when we go to finish it we'll only progress in a single subtech. Using Daystrom on Shipboard computing also means that we get more overflow progress.
aledeth
The Flesh is Weak
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Intro for the Ambassador is 2325 according to the front page.
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We are aware of that, we want to maximize overflow on the way to rushing Colony Cores and the +pp tech. As a short term optimization your point is entirely correct.
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Oh you're right... well, screw it then.
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Canon introduction is 2325. If we take that as the date the first prototype is finished and the class officially enters service, it'll take 6 years to build. So starting in 2319. If we assume it starts in 2319Q4 right after the last round of research is finished in 2319Q3. Assume 4 levels of research done by our spiffy UP team (so they complete a tier every year). 2319, 2318, 2317, 2316. So we would have to ask for the project to begin in the 2316 Snakepit.
Hell, that's another 7 years of research before starting the ship design!
Is it just me or does this sentence make absolutely no sense?
Countering is probably a more efficient use of time^^.
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well, for some reason the Connie-B's development and eventuall mass production didn't assuage the 'CONSTELLATION SUX!' party in the Feddy Council...so we need that to preserve Political Power if nothing else(not to mention it's good performance)...and the Ambassador is an Explorer, we need those to be the best they can be. The reason it was introduced in canon was that the Excelsior was starting to be increasingly outperformed by her opponents(something we're actually seeing here in places)...that's dangerous if we keep up the FYM structure. I hate the harp on this, but the Enterprise would have been lost if not for our dumb luck.
pheonix89
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Two points gained on one subtech aren't going to get anything done any faster. However, finishing [T2] 2310s Shipboard Computing one turn faster means starting on the crew reducer in [T3] Automated Ship Systems one turn faster. Or jumping over to [T3] 2320s Research Centers one turn faster.
