There is no room for another border zone between the Klingon and Seyek Border Zone (Seyek-Cardassian Border) so i expect it to cover all space between those two.We could declare a Rimward Border Zone, but I'm not sure we could spare the ships with us starting to send Renaissances into refit next year. As to what would be in it, I'm frankly unclear.
And for later, there were ideas how a space installation could be expanded ...Risa is awfully out there and vulnerable on the edge of Federation space. It would be nice to discourage the Gorn from getting ideas.
No academy expansions? We can only take those once a year, and have no other way to increase our crew income outside of gaining new members (affiliates and allies give some crew too, but very litle I think?). Sooner or later, its going to be a bottleneck.Snakepit Talk
So we're at 384pp right now. We might or might no get some pp for meeting Council Defense/Science goals. (It might be applied next year.) Here are some thoughts.
384pp (maybe more)
chen bonus: -1 Qtr (total) for parallel builds at shipyards without an HIP, 25% pp discount for anything built in STO space.
- Request Mining Colony 77 Azzadi IV-3, 7pp, 20 (40) sr/year, 4 turns
- Request Mining Colony 17 Onidesin IV, 7pp, 20 (40) sr/year, 4 turns
- Request Research Colony Galoria Delta-LXIg, 6pp, 5 (9) rp/year, 4 turns
- Request Research Colony Barradus IV, 6pp, 6 (10) rp/year, 4 turns
- Request Mining Colony Sarcissa Belt,7pp, 15 (30) BR/year, 4 turns 7*.75 = 5.25pp
- Request development of Utopia Planitia, 36pp, (4 turns, gain 1 3mt, 1 1mt berth)
- Request new Auxiliary Shipyard at <Arqueniou>, 60pp* .75 = 45pp, (12 turns, 1x2mt, 4x1mt Berth)
- Request new Starbase I [Seyek-Cardassian Border Zone - Hacitorus] 20pp, +12pp for each Starbase past the first in-sector - GBZ Invalid (5pp cheaper for HBZ or LBZ this year) 20 * .75 = 15pp
- Request new Starbase I [Ferasa Sector - Risa] 32pp
- Sponsor efforts for a Major Shipyard Preparations to pave the way for a Utopia Planitia style shipyard, 4 turns, 110pp
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
369.25 (14.75 left)
Not sure if we meet the Starfleet Ambition or not... we keep creating new Border Zones to put a Starbase in!
We really, really do. If we could build a single starbase only, it would be this one, no question about it.Hm, this is the only part of the plan I'm not sure of. It'd be more expensive, but I'd prefer to take the Convoy Waystations in the CBZ, unless we really need a starbase over Risa.
I'd also like to include an academy (& maybe EC) expansion if one is available this year.Snakepit Talk
So we're at 384pp right now. We might or might no get some pp for meeting Council Defense/Science goals. (It might be applied next year.) Here are some thoughts.
384pp (maybe more)
chen bonus: -1 Qtr (total) for parallel builds at shipyards without an HIP, 25% pp discount for anything built in STO space.
- Request Mining Colony 77 Azzadi IV-3, 7pp, 20 (40) sr/year, 4 turns
- Request Mining Colony 17 Onidesin IV, 7pp, 20 (40) sr/year, 4 turns
- Request Research Colony Galoria Delta-LXIg, 6pp, 5 (9) rp/year, 4 turns
- Request Research Colony Barradus IV, 6pp, 6 (10) rp/year, 4 turns
- Request Mining Colony Sarcissa Belt,7pp, 15 (30) BR/year, 4 turns 7*.75 = 5.25pp
- Request development of Utopia Planitia, 36pp, (4 turns, gain 1 3mt, 1 1mt berth)
- Request new Auxiliary Shipyard at <Arqueniou>, 60pp* .75 = 45pp, (12 turns, 1x2mt, 4x1mt Berth)
- Request new Starbase I [Seyek-Cardassian Border Zone - Hacitorus] 20pp, +12pp for each Starbase past the first in-sector - GBZ Invalid (5pp cheaper for HBZ or LBZ this year) 20 * .75 = 15pp
- Request new Starbase I [Ferasa Sector - Risa] 32pp
- Sponsor efforts for a Major Shipyard Preparations to pave the way for a Utopia Planitia style shipyard, 4 turns, 110pp
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to five times]
369.25 (14.75 left)
Not sure if we meet the Starfleet Ambition or not... we keep creating new Border Zones to put a Starbase in!
Colony Descriptions
77 Azzadi IV-3 20 (40) SR/year
Located spin-corewards corner of -1f. (Well towards Federation side of Adrazzi Gulf.)
Description: Deposit of Icurium ores on the third moon of 77 Azzadi IV. Like at the Castor IV-2 vein, strong magma convection currents pull the ores towards the surface, then back down.
Analysis: Not the most forward-leaning of potential Adrazzi Gulf claims.
17 Onidesin IV, 20 (40) sr/year
Located -2g, tailwards.
Description: An exploitable vein of Woninium on 17 Onidesin IV, about half a kilometer under the planetary ocean's surface. A mining colony here would be only a modest technical challenge.
Analysis: Would be a strategically valuable midpoint between Federation and Cardassian territory.
Galoria Delta-LXIg, 5 (9) rp per year.
Located in -4f, near Hajatar. (Near the Adrazzi Gulf, at Spinwards end of Straits of Themis.)
Description: This is a fascinating system [nearly three hundred separate planetoid or larger stellar bodies, of which at least one is a full M-class world, three are capable of supporting life and another five rate a solid .8 on the terraformability scale]. Just the stellar mechanics of its formation alone could keep an entire university department busy for the next sixty years, nevermind everything else [the atmosphere of Galoria Delta-LXIg contains a form of silicon based pseudo-prion capable of bypassing standard Starfleet filters].
Analysis: This would actually be a decently strategic place to put a colony.
Barradus IV 6 (10) rp/year)
Located in -2B. (On border between Vulcan sector and RBZ.)
Descripton: Inhabited by Bropal, a splinter Vulcan culture that have perfected mind-meld and katra-manipulating techniques that allow them to preserve the identities of the long dead in the form of...exchangeable personality fragments. They have an ancient computer backup facility that retains knowledge of the entire state of the Vulcans' known galaxy at the time of the exodus.
Analysis: The Vulcans really want this information, but can only get it when Starfleet builds the colony. Building it might even earn a little political goodwill or pp rebate.
Sarcissa Belt, 15 (30) BR/year
Located in bottom-left corner of -4f
Description: Tritanium deposits in planetary debris field (in Rethelia sector, near border with Cardassian-controlled Bajoran space).
Analysis: Mining colony in the Cardassian border area.
Someone want to update this to the wiki?Map posts!
Note, does not include:
Haruka system
Aeneid III mining colony (somewhere in Sol sector, nobody knows where)
Akley Consortium.
Also, we should buy Nashes EC expansion every year I believe. She will not be around forever, and the bonus is great.
We're crewing most of it - five ships out of six - and we had to pull an Excelsior from Explorer Corps duties to manage it. Assuming the End of Year Report is accurate, we still don't have enough EC-rated academy graduates to launch a new Ambassador on a Five Year Mission annually.How much will we really need the additional EC throughput, though? We're already planning on crewing the Ambassador wave without much issue...
Explorer Corps:
O(EC)/yr: 5.9 - 0 + 0.76 = 6.66
E(EC)/yr: 6.27 -0.57 + 0.74 = 6.44
T(EC)/yr: 5 - 0.0 + 0.67 = 5.67
O(EC): 24.5 - 0 + 6.0 + 6.66 = 37.16
E(EC): 22.11 - 0 + 5.0 + 6.44 = 33.55
T(EC): 16.9 - 0 + 5.0 + 5.67 = 27.57
How much will we really need the additional EC throughput, though? We're already planning on crewing the Ambassador wave without much issue...
This looks interesting. What exactly are the downsides to the refit?*Looks at Wiki* Damn, @Raw90's been busy today!
The Ambys, yes. The Ambys, standard Starfleet ships, and the Federalized ships? That is a resounding "We're not sure."
We should buy any and every Academy Expansion every year they're available.
Speaking of our upcoming crew-crunch, This budget Excelsior-B just became very attractive in that context.
+1C, +2S, +2H, +3L, +4D, and reduces crew from 6/5/5 to 4/5/4.
It's a 8/8/6/9/6/10 design, which has very poor presence considering presence are the narratively more important events for a garrison ship. No increases in presence means we don't keep up with high-level event difficulty. 85/65This looks interesting. What exactly are the downsides to the refit?
We literally just had a discussion about trimming logs because we're going to have lots more EC ships. And now we need more EC crew?
Decided to get some (very) basic character pages up for our captains, so that they can be expanded later.
Five Year Missions are our best way to locate potential allies to help contain the Ashalla Pact. So yes, I want more of them.We literally just had a discussion about trimming logs because we're going to have lots more EC ships. And now we need more EC crew?
Ambys have like 20 crew apiece man.
It's mostly normal Starfleet crew we're going to be short on but people want Nash's EC Annex as well as normal Academy Expansions because it's a limited-time shiney.
Five Year Missions are our best way to locate potential allies to help contain the Ashalla Pact. So yes, I want more of them.
It's a 8/8/6/9/6/10 design, which has very poor presence considering presence are the narratively more important events for a garrison ship. No increases in presence means we don't keep up with high-level event difficulty. 85/65
The comparable more expensive design is something like 8/8/6/10/8/9, so much better in event response and slightly better in suitability (D9 or even D8 vs D10 is basically a nothing difference). 80/85
I would like the crew-light design much better if it was something like S7 P7 D8, for example.
Also, have to remember that while we are in refit waves we typically grow a very large crew surplus. Using crew in refits will rarely hurt our stockpile timing-wise, it only matters over the longest term.
Frankly, more EC is always a worthwhile consideration. These are ships that punch harder than their numbers would indicate. Quite frankly, if we could crew every ship with EC crews we'd do so, even if that means putting EC crews on non-Explorer class ships.
Nothing wrong with normal Academy Expansion but EC is gilding the lily. We already have enough EC crew coming up for 15-20 ships as fast as we can build them and even the GMs are sideyeing the increased workload.
The only thing that will 'help' is cutting the Federation in half and burning it down; since we voted no on going to war recently, I don't expect anything like that to happen.Yes, but the GM's are already worried about event overload, and we're still trying to figure out the best solution for that. Increasing our planned EC launches is not helping.
I may have spoken too soon...