To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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I would definitely prefer 'sailor' to 'spacer'.
ClawClawBite
Mad Engineering!
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Remember that refits have a political point cost, and new ships take research teams, so every ship has a cost. In practical terms, fewer ship types makes it easier to do assignments.
What does actually building a one-off getus over the theoretical design get us before we start deployment?
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I regard 'spacer' as being equivalent to 'sailor.' If we would call naval ratings 'sailors' in real life where all our ships are sea ships, it would be reasonable to call naval ratings 'spacers' in a fictional setting where all our ships are space ships.
Also, neither 'crewman' NOR 'spacer' is a perfect tool for differentiating between individuals in Starfleet service and individuals not in Starfleet service but who, like Starfleet, happen to work in space. That is not the point of the rank title. The point is to have a noun that accurately describes our low-ranking crew members, and it is as accurate to call them 'spacers' as it would be to call Navy personnel on Earth 'sailors.'
Would require a bit more 'space is an ocean' than I'm comfortable with, and may weird out people from planets with little or no seafaring nautical tradition. Vulcans who live on a desert planet, Tellarites who don't have a 'world ocean' and instead have small landlocked seas; Orions whose seafaring tradition is millenia dead with a corpse on a planet that is itself a millenium dead; Yrillians who have an extremely active spacefaring tradition to draw on and whose seafaring tradition is likewise about as forgotten as the Orions', and so on.
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I think he means getting multiple designs, as they spawn refits of the centaur to new 1500t cruisers.
These designs include (there are more but this are some of those that can be ordered next snakepit):
a variant of the rennie
Based on the centaur
Kepler variants
another kepler variant
these are existing ships redesigned for diplomatic duty and we expect to be able to start building them soon
And at least 2 new design
1050t diplomatic frigate
A 1500t cruiser
Both of these will require a research team and a prototype before production can begin.
All of the SDB agrees that we could use at least one of these but there is debate on what the best choice is.
Most of the choices can wait till the snakepit, with the exception of the centaur-P as the cheapest way to get some of those is by refitting our existing centaur-A's into the P version instead of the centaur-B and that is decided at the next shipbuilding vote.
Not so much can wait as MUST wait as we can't build any design without going through the Snakepit.
Chaos Blade
Procrastinating Writer
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Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Point.
When you call someone crewman though, has little to do with space or ships, but with being one of a moving vehicles operators. Like tanks, airplanes, submarines, or ships.
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Himmelhand
Giant Sinkhole 2020
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That would definitely help against the Cardassian magical girl secret police.
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The initially rather unsatisfying-sounding "Crewer", perhaps.
Like brew, Brewer, one who brews beer. A Crewer is a person who crews a starship.
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And does the related position of Crew Brewer replicate the beer, or replicate the hops and brew the beer? Do they brew for the crew, or somehow brew the crew?
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I think we're getting into the territory of PC for PC's sake with all these terms. Canonically, all of the Trek series used "crewman" as the general term for people working on the ship/station. It's understood that this term is also used to refer to female (and presumably other gendered) personnel.
One of the main advantages of the centaur-P is that it only cost 30SR to refit a centaur-A to it, so if we choose that as one of our P ships it would be better that we refit no of the remaining centuar-A's to centaur-B in the upcoming shipyard vote.
"The Crew Brewer" totally is the Risan Lifeguard equivalent of our Personnel Command.
Unclassified. This is the correct answer.
Chaos Blade
Procrastinating Writer
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I think I got it, we could use spacehand, but it has the issue of, well, non hand species feeling left out.
So, we should call our crew: Drones.
Now, if only we could design some enlistment nanites...
So, we should call our crew: Drones.
Now, if only we could design some enlistment nanites...
Himmelhand
Giant Sinkhole 2020
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I think I got it, we could use spacehand, but it has the issue of, well, non hand species feeling left out.
So, we should call our crew: Drones.
Now, if only we could design some enlistment nanites...
Did someone say drones?
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...Oh my.
Yes, but by the same token it's generic in a setting where all sorts of things have "crews."
When you combine 'sailor' with 'celestial bodies' it certainly comes to mind easily.
Honestly my choice of 'spacer' isn't really a PC thing, I honestly like it better, but I see what you mean.
AKuz
Been Better
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English used to have that. It was the word.... "Man"
"Wereman" was a male man
and
"Wifman" (Eventually Woman) was a female man