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I mean...Nomads. Hissing at them is just reasonable.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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I mean...Nomads. Hissing at them is just reasonable.
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Over the last 3 years the average has been something like 25rp per quarter. Also you are neglecting the 10rp reward per accession and GBZ colonies, unless they are supposed to be included in the 2 per year?
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IIRC Excalibur was mentioned by Onerios himself when the thread was on a Fall-of-Rogers kick, but not in any threadmarked posts.
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Well I wanted to go with very low end estimates, and why I put an example of how just 5 more rp per quarter would be a big boost in RP totals, 25 means we are boosting 5 times each research phase. And forgot about the GBZ colonies and bonus rp from members joining. If we assume one colony a year from the GBZ that is an extra 2 income each year, and membership boosts of 10 this year and 20 the next two years of one off. That will give us a cushion for when we get the new generic teams after the current ones graduate in 3 years.
This is the only time Oneiros has mentioned the USS Excalibur:
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Ah. Shoot.
Stesk:
I will not condone undertaking initiatives that strategically benefit slavers.
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What I'm saying is that it would be easier to destroy ship veterancy than to create. If Excelsior worked its way up to a Blooded crew at some point prior to 2293 despite how little time that offers, the chaos of the post-Khitomer era and its impact on personnel could easily suck the ship back down to 0 XP.
With the Enterprise-B, I think the implication is that in part because of informal status as 'fleet flagship,' transferring a third of the crew of the ship to a new ship really IS likely to improve performance- either because they're a genuinely higher caliber of personnel than the average for the rest of the fleet
Yes, but those were Explorer Corps ships. You know, the hand-picked "best of the best of the best" elite crews.
Thankee!Yeah, the dates don't really line up well at all unless we posit a second three-megaton berth that was decommissioned for some reason. Or blown up by the Klingons or otherwise lost in the early 2290s.
Something like:
2280Q1-2285Q2: NX-2000 Excelsior prototype construction period at Sol.
2285Q1: Crew deducts for USS Excelsior.
==LOTSA EMBARRASSMENT HAPPENS==
[Awkwardly, while 'Tiny' may no longer be in Starfleet service, "Mr. Adventure" might be.
]2285Q3-2286Q4: NX-2000 USS Excelsior completes refits to function at regular Starfleet standards, though not five year mission capability, at the Sol shipyard. Follow-on NCC-2001 and NCC-2002 are ordered for Sol berth. Second three-megaton berth built at Andor.
2287Q1-2290Q4: NCC-2001 Excalibur construction period at Sol; Excalibur is built from the keel up with the full set of modifications needed to be five-year-mission capable. NCC-2003 is ordered and assigned to the Andor berth.
2289Q1-2293Q4: NCC-2003 Courageous construction period at Andor.
2291Q1-2293QX: NCC-2002 ??? construction period begins at Sol.
==KHITOMER HAPPENS, CARTWRIGHT CONSPIRACY REVEALED==
2293QX-2294QX: The President, taking personal command of Starfleet in the wake of the Cartwright conspiracy, authorizes continued Excelsior construction on schedule, as a symbol of Federation unity and commitment to exploration. Personal appeals from Kirk play a significant role in this decision. NCC-2002 is slightly rushed into service for political reasons, in order to recommission the new ship as USS Enterprise promptly, after the decommissioning of NCC 1701-A.
2294QX: Former NCC-2002 build commissions as NCC-1701-B USS Enterprise. Captain Kirk lost aboard Enterprise during commissioning trials.
2294QY: Many Andorians view the Cartwright Conspiracy as an attempt by a human-dominated Starfleet to 'fight the Klingons to the last Andorian.' Anti-Starfleet terrorists from an Andorian secessionist movement, smuggling antimatter charges, manage to gut the three-megaton berth at Andor. Lor'Vela shipyard is shut down, not to reopen until the Kahurangi admiralty.
2294QY: [Optional: Lt. Cmdr. Nash ka'Sharren of the USS ??? foils attack on the one-megaton berth?
]2295Q1-2298Q4: Excelsior production continues at Sol regardless. NCC-2004 USS Sarek is completed in Sol shipyard.
2299Q1-2302Q4: NCC-2005 USS Kumari is completed in Sol shipyard.
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Oneiros is probably going to give them names like he does for new teams requested in the snakepit, but he might ask for suggestions. The nice thing about them is that they already have a reasonably well defined history. For example Generic Team 4 could be the Isolinear Optics Laboritory.
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He might, if it was pitched as a possible way to influence them into not being slavers, but I agree there's probably not a good chance of that.
Man, that map. With the affiliation of the Tauni our coreward expansion is looking to be as extensive as our spinward expansion. We should expect 3 new sectors.
It's definitely an Enterprise exception too. We were told at the time we obtained Chen's bonus that prototyping with it would cause issues. That position was reversed when the Enterprise was lost and the proposal became to build a new Enterprise.
Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
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No. In fact hell no.
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Rolling finally done. Blech.
I hope you guys like Distress Calls.
I hope you guys like Distress Calls.
pheonix89
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I'm happy to pay Danegeld.
Just delivered at c-fractional velocities with no brakes.
It's possible (?) that we commissioned from one of the member state berths, I can't remember if they had their own 2.5+ berths at game start. Alternatively, in the wake of the Rogers crisis, the Council slapped Starfleet's hands and transferred a berth with Excelsior capacity to a member world.
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It's the only way the Enterprise ever meets other ships!
Winged One
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...shit. I really hope our overtaxed garrisons don't get anyone killed.
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Distress Calls are a good way to gain pp! They're also a good way to lose pp.
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I will say that we've both had our first instance of Chen's bonus in action, and also burned Ainsworth's re-roll for the year.
Also, I think the comparison of this situation to a trolly car problem isn't very accurate. The Hishimer are not dumb-dumbs just because they're nomadic, and in fact if they're star-crossing they're very aware of thier assets and potential losses. Assuming we can just whisper "hey go this way, trust us it's the best route" and they'll just blindly do that is absurd. As I've kept reminding people, if that's what you assume they're like there's also nothing stopping the Cardassians from doing the same.
Basically it's a trolly car problem where the train is sentient, the switch does nothing, the people on the tracks can reason with or bribe the train, and there's like, dozens of potential tracks it could go down... So it's not really a trolly car problem.
The Hishimir will evaluate our strengths as best they can, and then make a decision from there.
Basically it's a trolly car problem where the train is sentient, the switch does nothing, the people on the tracks can reason with or bribe the train, and there's like, dozens of potential tracks it could go down... So it's not really a trolly car problem.
The Hishimir will evaluate our strengths as best they can, and then make a decision from there.
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So back to the Hishmeri Septs being slavers/raiders, do we want to start making plans now, before they hit our border? Or should we kick it up to the President, and having the decision of which one of the options below taken by the head of the Federation, instead of us? I'd prefer for a plan to be in place before they potentially hit our borders, rather than scrambling afterwards. Plus, getting the big stick ready now makes sense, rather than hoping our border patrols can hold them off.
1) gather a fleet, neutralize them as combatants so they don't bother us or anyone else until they rearm themselves, and free their slaves while we're at it,
2) use a fleet to escort them through Fed space, and let someone else deal with them
3) use a fleet to convince them to not enter/go somewhere else in general/go somewhere else in particular,
4) something else entirely
Edit: Heh, looks like the discussion already started. So it's basically fleet or diplo, at the sec.
1) gather a fleet, neutralize them as combatants so they don't bother us or anyone else until they rearm themselves, and free their slaves while we're at it,
2) use a fleet to escort them through Fed space, and let someone else deal with them
3) use a fleet to convince them to not enter/go somewhere else in general/go somewhere else in particular,
4) something else entirely
Edit: Heh, looks like the discussion already started. So it's basically fleet or diplo, at the sec.
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As you should, for at the end of the Deep Space Station tech tree lies Yorktown!
I'm fine with trading information for information.
I missed that. It was hidden behind a Spoiler Tag.
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I say we use a fleet to either Neutralize them or convince them to go somewhere else. IE Cardassian space.
Initially I was like "there's no way the Prez is going to sign off on a sudden strike right to the Hishimir throat" but then I remember Cait is in their path and this is President N'Gir we're talking about.
I know there's a desire to do something proactive people but we're going to have to wait and see on this one. If they [robotic monotone] become a threat [/ robotic monotone] by deciding to rumble with us then we'll send them a stern rebuke.
Although hey, maybe they suffer from overpopulation and we could gain diplomatic points by killing a bunch of them. You never know!
I know there's a desire to do something proactive people but we're going to have to wait and see on this one. If they [robotic monotone] become a threat [/ robotic monotone] by deciding to rumble with us then we'll send them a stern rebuke.
Although hey, maybe they suffer from overpopulation and we could gain diplomatic points by killing a bunch of them. You never know!