Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
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- USoA
We could always diplomacy them into teaming up against the Cardassians.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
- Thread starter OneirosTheWriter
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Who, the Borg or the ISC?
NavySeel
"I don't know what I'm doing."
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Why not both?
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- Patriarchova
At this point I don't think that the ISC are the Tauni's overlords, and am pretty sure that they've fought them.
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- USA
Well optimism growing for friendly relations with the ISC. Also a new research colony makes two colonies to pick up at the snakepit and we got 25pp which is very nice. Renaissance failed but is getting experience.
Ah forgot but that +1 to Odessey rolls will be very helpful
Ah forgot but that +1 to Odessey rolls will be very helpful
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They're the most sensible people we've encountered, frankly.
pheonix89
Wants to be Seven Of Nine
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- North American Plaguelands
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- She/Her
At this point I think the ISC are just some decent and cautious people who got burned.
So far we've seen precisely what one would expect from people with shit luck on neigbours save for the photon torpedo freakout and that would make sense if they have low tolerance for faildeadly systems.
Antimatter has great boom per weight when you only look at the antimatter itself, but when you start looking at the need for active confinement it starts looking less great.
And I want that warp core scramming system SO MUCH.
So far we've seen precisely what one would expect from people with shit luck on neigbours save for the photon torpedo freakout and that would make sense if they have low tolerance for faildeadly systems.
Antimatter has great boom per weight when you only look at the antimatter itself, but when you start looking at the need for active confinement it starts looking less great.
And I want that warp core scramming system SO MUCH.
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- madison
so either the commonwealth had a really bad experience with antimatter and are now skittish about it, or their techbase makes handling it a lot harder, or both. Possibly with an early accident causing them to pursue other delvopment paths. There lack of luck with first contact is concerning, though given they are near some rather unsavory sorts not surprising. I doubt they met the cardassians, since they tend to at least try and come across as non hostile.
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- Patriarchova
We should throw a party and invite them and the Gaeni.
The thing is, they're not too far away from the Yan-Ros or the Honiani, and they have the entire Gabriel expanse between themselves and the Cardassians. The neighbors that we know about don't seem so awful.
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- Infraspace
Their skittishness with antimatter makes me wonder whether they'd rather work with a Romulan-style singularity drive instead, although that does come with its own set of issues.
Come to think of it, is it only the Romulans who use that technology?
Come to think of it, is it only the Romulans who use that technology?
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
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- madison
crap, your right. I thought they were over by the Sydraxians and Yrillians. I hope they didn't encounter the Honiani while they were in one of there more crusadey periods, might make things awkward.
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- somewhere
We should get the maximum number of colonies possible, with the trade this year we have run down our former BR stockpile so BR colonies are now useful for their BR as well as the pp and rp. Look at the shipbuild spreadsheet, it doesn't project a significant BR surplus relative to SR for any year, and if Sirvk gets that 10% SR discount as his bonus like last time when he was up for the post we might even have a BR deficit without colonies. The only reason to still think SR is more important is that we do have that backlog of BR colony options, but we actually should develop those now. Even if that gets us back to a moderate BR surplus we can use that in trades like this year.
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Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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- Murica
I suspect the ISC have had a planet bombarded from orbit, which would explain them having such a strong reaction to photon torpedoes. To them it's like we sent a tool of genocide with our ships.
Hey SWB, I know you posted this a few days ago but I missed it at the time. Thought I might comment now.
By the required seniority, her and ch'Tharvasse were literally the only two candidates meeting requirements.
SF Fleetyards only has three berths.
Chen looking good for her age!
Really like the effort you're putting in to flesh Chen out and give her some personality.
By the required seniority, her and ch'Tharvasse were literally the only two candidates meeting requirements.
SF Fleetyards only has three berths.
Chen looking good for her age!
Really like the effort you're putting in to flesh Chen out and give her some personality.
That is a feature not a bug as seen with General Order 24.
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- Patriarchova
Alternate hypothesis: the ISC actually ARE the ones who conquered the Tauni, but they've mellowed out since then and are kind of living in fear of their old sins coming back to haunt them.
Night
Widow Null
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- Hoff
Dunwich. They're not...exactly wrong, but the perspective we have on the need to sterilize a planet from orbit is a bit unique. (or maybe not)
Alternative alternative hypothesis: the Tauni did something to warrant an invasion, playing with something like Omega for example, but over time they forgot/suppressed that reason. Similar to what happened in Living Witness.
Further friendly contact may mean that we'll be able to get support for the Stargazer a few months sooner when she's on the way home.
What do you think of this Snakepit plan?
[no vote] 2316 Snakepit – Plan KEPLER TIME
Currently 411 pp (could have 10-20 more in final two months of 2316.Q1)
- Request new Starbase I [KBZ – Shrantet III] 25pp for KBZ
- Request new Starbase I [Indoria] 15pp +12pp = 27pp
- Request Mining Colony at Kohl II, 8pp, +25 / +25 br/sr per year, 4 turns
- Request Research Colony at Acacia V, 5rp/yr, 8pp, +5 rp per year, 4 turns
- Request Mining Colony at Piara V, 8pp, 25 (35) br/yr, 4 turns
- Request Mining Colony at Kappa Tau, 8pp, 15 (25) br/yr, 4 turns
- Request Allocation for an Excelsior's resources, one-off-infusion of an Excelsior's cost, 40pp
- Request Academy Development, 35pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
- Request Start of Science Frigate project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 10pp
- Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, {Weapons and Offensive Doctrine] - 20pp
- Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, {Starbase and Defensive Doctrine] - 20pp
- Request new Shipyard at Ferasa, 22pp, (12 turns, 1 3mt Berth)
- Sponsor efforts to create Heavy Industrial park to reduce construction times by 1 month/year in that system, 115pp (Sol System)
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Ashidi]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [The Tauni]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Yan-Ros]
So that comes to 406, leaving a 5 pp contingency if the cost of Academy Development has bumped up to 40 pp (it tends to increase over time). If we get another 15 to 20 pp in the next two months, there are a number of options for the final picks
I know we've been talking about making the Explorer Corps a Vice Admiral berth, but it's not really that urgent. We've recently added a truckload of Vice Admiral positions, so promotion pressure has eased considerably. We can get to it a year or two down the road.
We haven't been pushing affiliates lately, but I think it might actually be profitable to get the Yan-Ros to 300 a year or two sooner given that they are our closest contacts to the Interstellar Commonwealth.
Starting a Shipyard in Ferasa because getting another 3mt berth there in 3 years or so will work well. It's a good part of the Federation for it.
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- Germany
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Mining?
There could also come up an option with the ISC.
typo: Weapons and Offesnive
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
We pretty much avoid that for anything below Beast-level 'Fuck this shit!' so I doubt the ISC has anything to worry about, but the thing is, they (probably) know almost nothing about us, so they are rightfully concerned.
It could be some of both. The ISC could be the Tauni overlords, but they eventually mellowed out, which allowed the Tauni to throw off their shackles, as the ISC didn't try particularly hard to stop them. Following that, the ashamed ISC left the Tauni alone, and have been keeping the information of their crimes mostly suppressed, save for the leadership, who live in fear of and make policy choices based on the possibility of the Tauni taking their revenge, possibly with the help of neighbors the Tauni have convinced of the ISC being evil bastards who deserve extermination.
If this is the case, their reaction to a ship with similar tech to themselves makes sense. They might well have interpreted it as the Tauni finding patrons to aid them in vengeance against the ICS. If this is the case as well, the ship putting it's shields down likely saved them from a preemptive strike. However, the ISC would likely be paranoid of a trick, leading to their continued nervousness.
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