To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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As of 2315.Q3
Federation Forces:
Starfleet:
-USS Avandar, NCC-2010, Excelsior = C6 S5 H4 L5 P5 D6
-USS Kumari, NCC-2005, Excelsior (Blooded) = C7 S6 H5 L6 P6 D6
-USS Korolev, NCC-1744, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Defiant, NCC-1746, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Saratoga, NCC-1745, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Exeter, NCC-1748, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Republic, NCC-1743, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Challorn, NCC-1809, Constellation (Blooded) = C4 S3 H3 L3 P3 D3
-USS T'Kumbra, NCC-1659 Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Agile, NCC-1632, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Bantam, NCC-1634, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Clarion, NCC-1663, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Intrepid, NCC-1657, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Eketha, NCC-1655, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Fidelity, NCC-1634, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Bon Vivant, NCC-1621, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Shield, NCC-1661, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
Total = C69 S47 H45 L61 P38 D58
Apiata:
-Light Queenship Telzziadriz, NCC-3103 = C4 S4 H2 L7 P6 D7
-Light Queenship Pollizazza, NCC-3104 = C4 S4 H2 L7 P6 D7
-Stinger Gerzzi, NCC-3202 = C4 S2 H1 L4 P2 D4
-Stinger Triada, NCC-3201 = C4 S2 H1 L4 P2 D4
-Stinger Grizzi, NCC-3205 = C4 S2 H1 L4 P2 D4
-Stinger Fozarri, NCC-3204 = C4 S2 H1 L4 P2 D4
-Forager Trinzzi, NCC-3304 = C2 S6 H1 L2 P2 D3
-Forager Onzala, NCC-3302 = C2 S6 H1 L2 P2 D3
Total = C28 S28 H10 L34 P24 D36
Amarki:
-CAS Abhriec, NCC-2203, Riala = C6 S4 H5 L7 P5 D6
-CAS Hebrinda, NCC-2402, Hebrinda-A = C5 S2 H3 L5 P3 D4
-CAS Hilindia, NCC-2403, Hebrinda-A = C5 S2 H3 L5 P3 D4
-CAS Atorfroil, NCC-2304, Brieca = C2 S2 H3 L3 P1 D2
-CAS Icafroil, NCC-2302, Brieca = C2 S2 H3 L3 P1 D2
-CAS Ilotraia, NCC-2121, Centaur-A = C3 S3 H2 L3 P3 D3
-CAS Tamac, NCC-2306, Calac = C2 S2 H2 L2 P1 D2
-CAS Socac, NCC-2307, Calac = C2 S2 H2 L2 P1 D2
Total = C27 S19 H23 L30 P18 D25
Federation Total = C124 S94 H75 L125 P80 D119-USS Avandar, NCC-2010, Excelsior = C6 S5 H4 L5 P5 D6
-USS Kumari, NCC-2005, Excelsior (Blooded) = C7 S6 H5 L6 P6 D6
-USS Korolev, NCC-1744, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Defiant, NCC-1746, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Saratoga, NCC-1745, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Exeter, NCC-1748, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Republic, NCC-1743, Constitution-B = C5 S3 H3 L4 P3 D5
-USS Challorn, NCC-1809, Constellation (Blooded) = C4 S3 H3 L3 P3 D3
-USS T'Kumbra, NCC-1659 Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Agile, NCC-1632, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Bantam, NCC-1634, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Clarion, NCC-1663, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Intrepid, NCC-1657, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Eketha, NCC-1655, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Fidelity, NCC-1634, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Bon Vivant, NCC-1621, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
-USS Shield, NCC-1661, Miranda-A = C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2
Total = C69 S47 H45 L61 P38 D58
Apiata:
-Light Queenship Telzziadriz, NCC-3103 = C4 S4 H2 L7 P6 D7
-Light Queenship Pollizazza, NCC-3104 = C4 S4 H2 L7 P6 D7
-Stinger Gerzzi, NCC-3202 = C4 S2 H1 L4 P2 D4
-Stinger Triada, NCC-3201 = C4 S2 H1 L4 P2 D4
-Stinger Grizzi, NCC-3205 = C4 S2 H1 L4 P2 D4
-Stinger Fozarri, NCC-3204 = C4 S2 H1 L4 P2 D4
-Forager Trinzzi, NCC-3304 = C2 S6 H1 L2 P2 D3
-Forager Onzala, NCC-3302 = C2 S6 H1 L2 P2 D3
Total = C28 S28 H10 L34 P24 D36
Amarki:
-CAS Abhriec, NCC-2203, Riala = C6 S4 H5 L7 P5 D6
-CAS Hebrinda, NCC-2402, Hebrinda-A = C5 S2 H3 L5 P3 D4
-CAS Hilindia, NCC-2403, Hebrinda-A = C5 S2 H3 L5 P3 D4
-CAS Atorfroil, NCC-2304, Brieca = C2 S2 H3 L3 P1 D2
-CAS Icafroil, NCC-2302, Brieca = C2 S2 H3 L3 P1 D2
-CAS Ilotraia, NCC-2121, Centaur-A = C3 S3 H2 L3 P3 D3
-CAS Tamac, NCC-2306, Calac = C2 S2 H2 L2 P1 D2
-CAS Socac, NCC-2307, Calac = C2 S2 H2 L2 P1 D2
Total = C27 S19 H23 L30 P18 D25
Ashella Pack Forces:
Cardassian:
-???, Kaldur = C5 S3 H4 L4 P3 D5
-???, Kaldur = C5 S3 H4 L4 P3 D5
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Takaaki Sci = C1 S5 H2 L3 P1 D2
-???, Isaamu = C4 S1 H2 L2 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
Total = C75 S47 H67 L68 P43 D64
Sydraxian:
-None
Total = C0 S0 H0 L0 P0 D0
Dylaarian Forces:
-Unknown
Total = Unknown
Ashella Total = C75+ S47+ H67+ L68+ P43+ D64+-???, Kaldur = C5 S3 H4 L4 P3 D5
-???, Kaldur = C5 S3 H4 L4 P3 D5
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Jaldun = C4 S3 H4 L4 P3 D4
-???, Takaaki Sci = C1 S5 H2 L3 P1 D2
-???, Isaamu = C4 S1 H2 L2 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
-???, Takaaki Cmb = C4 S1 H3 L3 P1 D2
Total = C75 S47 H67 L68 P43 D64
Sydraxian:
-None
Total = C0 S0 H0 L0 P0 D0
Dylaarian Forces:
-Unknown
Total = Unknown
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Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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- Murica
The thing is we're pretty much their only source of information on the Biophage, so they are likely to be distrustful of any reports we give on how threatening it is. I'm sure we've given the Cardassians the vaccine and recordings of just how nasty it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if they never distributed the vaccine en masse. Either because of paranoia (why inject your entire civilization with a drug developed by your rivals) or expense (they struggle to feed themselves, mass producing pharmaceuticals is a major cost).
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
- Location
- Murica
I wouldn't be so sure about the humans. Sure they were planning to beforehand, but they took the heaviest casualties outside of Starfleet, losing two Mirandas and damage to their flagship and a cruiser. At the very least, I wouldn't expect them to send anyone until their three Renaissance finish building in 2317.
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
- Location
- Murica
Still can't engage them in diplomacy officially, unfortunately. Otherwise I'd be all for that.
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
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- He/Him
If the Intel report's suggestion that we may have to back a Sydraxians faction is proved correct, the Treaty of Celos is going to be a dead letter anyway. We may want to prepare by requesting some Intel reports on the Dawiar (perhaps the FDS will take a hint) and by trying to whittle down as much of the Cardassians fleet as possible. We have a 60% advantage in combat power, and close to double the shield strength. Our people should be encouraged to seek and destroy the enemy.
Well, it is free fire zone and our commanders have permission to go for Cardie ships - but not the other affiliate that I'm not going to try to remember the spelling of on a phone
The Cardies appear to only move around n groups though - the only reports of single cruisers I can recall were scouting ahead of a fleet
The Cardies appear to only move around n groups though - the only reports of single cruisers I can recall were scouting ahead of a fleet
Straight Talk: I think the Biophage is pretty boring, it's from a computer game I didn't play, and I am not the least bit excited about the idea of it returning to a major role in this game.
Whenever I see someone talk about "What if Biophage this?" in a post, my eyes glaze over and I wish we could talk about anything else.
Whenever I see someone talk about "What if Biophage this?" in a post, my eyes glaze over and I wish we could talk about anything else.
I am disputing that the Ashalla Pact can be said to have a collective number of ships. I think you have Cardassian ships and Dylarrian ships, and they may or may not cooperate.
I also find it annoying that you refuse to call a positive report a positive report. Straight up question: Do you think the number of Cardassian ships reported in Gabriel is good news for us, bad news for us, or neutral? I say it as very slightly good news. Not great, but suggesting we have a small advantage.
Evidence based on operations to date seems to suggest otherwise. We have never seen a joint fleet including both Cardassian ships and Sydraxians (when they were in it) or Cardassians and Dylarians*. Whereas we have seen joint operations with Starfleet, Amarki, and Apinae.
*There isn't even any evidence that the Dylarians were in fact holding down the fort during that one massed Cardassian threat to allow the Sydraxian colony to be evacuated. We suspect it, but maybe the Cardassians just decided to gamble.
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
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We have 33 ships to their 19 and significantly greater stat combos. Mines have been defanged recently too. We should be scouting in sizeable groups to dare the Cardassians to come get us and be pushing hard to locate Cardassians colonies so we can raze their outposts and mines while they're being built.
When one holds the advantage we do, it's in our best interests to either force the Cardassians to be conservative or to be reckless. They can cower behind their outposts and minefields, or come do battle with a superior fleet. And given that outposts require resupply, we can even choose to besiege their most distant outpost and make it die on the vine...
When one holds the advantage we do, it's in our best interests to either force the Cardassians to be conservative or to be reckless. They can cower behind their outposts and minefields, or come do battle with a superior fleet. And given that outposts require resupply, we can even choose to besiege their most distant outpost and make it die on the vine...
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
In celebration of Page 2000, I will do another round of "Ask Enterprise/Leslie/Halkh" posts.
If anyone has questions to toss at them.
The Biophage is a colossal infiltration/infection threat, but it's also a very serious conventional threat because it has the psychology of a giant self-aware cancer. As far as we can tell, it has no goals and no priorities other than to turn everything around itself into more of itself.
Even a militaristic species like the Cardassians or the Klingons still has art, culture, various forms of expression, and if nothing else has to divert a significant fraction of its collective energy to internal political control mechanisms. The Biophage has none of that. The only thing in Star Trek that is close to being as singleminded as the Biophage is the Borg, and whatever the Borg obsession is, they aren't as purely focused on expansion as the Biophage. Given their technological edge and the age of their civilization, they'd have taken over the galaxy long ago if they were.
If the Biophage takes over a major world, there is nothing left of the population, and possibly nothing left of the planetary ecosystem as a whole, except for piles of red goo, operating machinery that works solely to create more piles of red goo. Everything that exists is given over to that purpose. We are extremely fortunate that all three major Alpha Quadrant powers threw a large fraction of their fleet at Kadesh very early in that exponential growth curve, and even so it almost wasn't enough.
With the better developed infrastructure of the Cardassian empire at the Biophage's disposal, I'm really not sure we could win against it.
The catch is, the Cardassians are going to be much worse at researching and understanding the nature of the threat. And being more centralized, they are vulnerable to a decapitation attack. Furthermore, it seems as if their homeworld is dependent on food imports, which makes it extremely vulnerable to attempts by the Biophage to smuggle Biophage samples onto the planet.
Whereas if the Klingons or Romulans (or an unknown outside party like the Ittick-ka) blew up one of our outposts for ANY reason except Biophage, they would almost certainly NOT tell us... which is precisely what we observe.
However, TOS referred to 'quasars' as phenomena inside the galaxy, because when TOS came out quasars were a new unknown magic radio source in the sky that nobody knew what they were. Captain Kirk's orders refer to 'investigate any quasars you find' on multiple occasions
So while you're objectively correct about the definition of the word 'quasar' as per 2000-era physics, something funny is going on in Star Trek.
We saw Cardassian and Sydraxian ships jointly escorting a convoy crossing the Gabriel Expanse back around 2311, before we knew it was called the Gabriel Expanse. You know, the one the Apiata hit.
If anyone has questions to toss at them.
Only the women.
Orions have mind control pheromones?
No, there's a catch. Look at what the Biophage was able to do with just the Kadeshi homeworld as an industrial base, in a matter of months. It uses industrial infrastructure much more... aggressively than normal species.
The Biophage is a colossal infiltration/infection threat, but it's also a very serious conventional threat because it has the psychology of a giant self-aware cancer. As far as we can tell, it has no goals and no priorities other than to turn everything around itself into more of itself.
Even a militaristic species like the Cardassians or the Klingons still has art, culture, various forms of expression, and if nothing else has to divert a significant fraction of its collective energy to internal political control mechanisms. The Biophage has none of that. The only thing in Star Trek that is close to being as singleminded as the Biophage is the Borg, and whatever the Borg obsession is, they aren't as purely focused on expansion as the Biophage. Given their technological edge and the age of their civilization, they'd have taken over the galaxy long ago if they were.
If the Biophage takes over a major world, there is nothing left of the population, and possibly nothing left of the planetary ecosystem as a whole, except for piles of red goo, operating machinery that works solely to create more piles of red goo. Everything that exists is given over to that purpose. We are extremely fortunate that all three major Alpha Quadrant powers threw a large fraction of their fleet at Kadesh very early in that exponential growth curve, and even so it almost wasn't enough.
With the better developed infrastructure of the Cardassian empire at the Biophage's disposal, I'm really not sure we could win against it.
The Cardassians have two advantages compared to us. One is ruthlessness- willingness to burn anything and everything that might be compromised by the Biophage. The other is that unlike the Romulans and Klingons, the Cardassians have no cloaking devices for the Biophage to use. Unless the Biophage can remember how to construct cloaked ships (uncertain, since they were unable to refit Kadeshi ships with shields even though they know how shields work from at least the Romulans)... The Cardassians will at least have an easier time seeing the enemy coming.
The catch is, the Cardassians are going to be much worse at researching and understanding the nature of the threat. And being more centralized, they are vulnerable to a decapitation attack. Furthermore, it seems as if their homeworld is dependent on food imports, which makes it extremely vulnerable to attempts by the Biophage to smuggle Biophage samples onto the planet.
If anyone might skip the anti-Biophage coatings on a ship because they're in a hurry to finish it and get on to the next build in the queue, or forget to take their meds because "the enemy is defeated," it'd be the Klingons.
No. Someone nuked the hell out of it, and "Biophage" is a good explanation for why someone might have done that. But if so, then who pulled the trigger? If the listening post or any Federation member had done it, they'd have told us. If the Romulans had done it, they'd have told us, if only so they can be all smug about THEM having to clean up OUR Biophage mess this time around. And I'm pretty sure the Klingons would have too.
Whereas if the Klingons or Romulans (or an unknown outside party like the Ittick-ka) blew up one of our outposts for ANY reason except Biophage, they would almost certainly NOT tell us... which is precisely what we observe.
You are right.
However, TOS referred to 'quasars' as phenomena inside the galaxy, because when TOS came out quasars were a new unknown magic radio source in the sky that nobody knew what they were. Captain Kirk's orders refer to 'investigate any quasars you find' on multiple occasions
So while you're objectively correct about the definition of the word 'quasar' as per 2000-era physics, something funny is going on in Star Trek.
Point of order:
We saw Cardassian and Sydraxian ships jointly escorting a convoy crossing the Gabriel Expanse back around 2311, before we knew it was called the Gabriel Expanse. You know, the one the Apiata hit.
- Location
- Australia
At some point in the early 2210s then current name quasar was shifted away from galactic supermassive blackholes into shut up
- Location
- Central Standard Time
Looks like I missed the party, again.
Here's to another thousand!
Here's to another thousand!
At some point in the early 2210s then current name quasar was shifted away from galactic supermassive blackholes into shut up
Maybe the increased sensitivity of sensors allowed them to detect EM put out by any blackhole with an accretion disk. Then rather then coming up with a new term for blackholes that have yet to devour their accretion disks they simply expanded the term "quasar" to cover all blackholes which posses accretion disks.
Couple items that I've developed from the intelligence reports I've been combing.
1. Our last Cardassian Fleet Strength was in 2310.Q1,which will be seven years old come next Well, They Try. They could have doubled the size of their fleet in that time.
2. We have NEVER ordered Cardassian Shipyard Report, which is a major oversight. I can estimate it from Ghosts and Whispers and from our very accurate Shipbuilding Report. Now that their new berths are finished would be a good time to order it, actually.
e: Doing some revision...
e2: Revisions completed. 2316 Cardassian strength is a fairly firm 220-240 combat. Beyond that it gets muddy if they can use all 15 of those berths for new military ships or not.
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- Location
- Australia
I will say that it is important to realise that everyone is building and expanding as fast as they can, trying to react to the crazy rate of Federation expansion.
You have the finest industrial base, but other groups have not been slacking.
You have the finest industrial base, but other groups have not been slacking.
- Location
- somewhere
@OneirosTheWriter when are we going to decide where to assign the former Enterprise crew? Along with the Ambassador vote? Shipyard operations?
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
Okay, maybe we should slow down a bit. It's just that all the extra income of all types is so delicious...
Night
Widow Null
- Location
- Hoff
Never! Run before you walk! Fly before you crawl!
(I've just written the Expansionist motto, haven't I?)
If you ask Development it sure is.
Everyone is trying to catch up. Which means we need to accelerate, not slow down!
Mines on every dust ball!
Factories in every asteroid belt!
Ship berths at every stable gravity well!
Crew isn't coming in fast enough, start researching cloning!
Ok, maybe a little overboard.......
Mines on every dust ball!
Factories in every asteroid belt!
Ship berths at every stable gravity well!
Crew isn't coming in fast enough, start researching cloning!
Ok, maybe a little overboard.......
- Location
- Patriarchova
