...That... that...

If there is a way to make a ship look more like it was built by a bunch of Gaeni, than what you just did, Leila...

I am terrified of the possibility that someone will discover that way.

Eh, if you let everybody explore, expand, build their own militaries, shipyards etc. there comes a point when you should probably question why you have a federal-level Starfleet, especially of this size and power, in the first place... It also seems a bit contradictory to me that one hand we have those insanely strict requirements to serve in Starfleet and especially in the Exploration Corps and at the same time are okay with letting somebody else do this job practically one their own.

And consideirng that exploration often seems to also means expansion this seems like an idea that could easily cause significant problems between core and frontier worlds/members.
By analogy, I strongly suspect the Vulcan Science Council still has ships and motors around doing stuff; they just have to negotiate special permissions to do it outside Vulcan Sector.
 
I suppose there's no reason why nacelles can't be placed on the side of the ship. It's not like space cares about what's the top and bottom.

Indeed. Words like "top" and "bottom" and "side" only have meaning in relation to the ship's artificial gravity. Other than that, the only real orientation for a spaceship are the front and back, since that's determined by which way the engines are pointing.

As you said, there's no reason why the nacelles can't be to the "side" of the ship, from the perspective of the ship's occupants. Most people choose not to do that, but the gaeni are not most people.

...That... that...

If there is a way to make a ship look more like it was built by a bunch of Gaeni, than what you just did, Leila...

I am terrified of the possibility that someone will discover that way.

Thanks. I basically thought "what's the most asymmetrical, chaotic design I can think of that could still function as a multirole* cruiser and follows the Roddenberry Rules," and this was the result.


*Don't let the name fool you. The "tech cruiser" is actually a fairly well rounded ship, going by its stats. It has the Science score of an Excelsior or Oberth, but it can also outfight a Conniebee, and while its Defense and Presence scores aren't great they're still as good as the Centaur-A's.
 
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This is probably as close as I'm going to get to a Lindos or Naglfar's "I'M VERTICAL", therefore it is lovely.
 
*Don't let the name fool you. The "tech cruiser" is actually a fairly well rounded ship, going by its stats. It has the Science score of an Excelsior or Oberth, but it can also outfight a Conniebee, and while its defense and presence scores aren't great they're still as good as the Centaur-A's.


Yeah, it's one heck of a generalist. And...

A refit package is being considered to further increase the range, science, and diplomacy packages of this class.
Imagine the ship at C4 S6 H3 L6 P4 D4. Or possibly more S/P/D.

We'll see these things rescuing our explorers for another few decades yet.
 
Actually, they must have a very interesting ability for diplomacy or neat looking interiors or something if that ship can function as P3, soon to be P4. e: Maybe they have very strong xenopsych research and diplomatic modeling computing.
 
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Actually, they must have a very interesting ability for diplomacy or neat looking interiors or something if that ship can function as P3, soon to be P4. e: Maybe they have very strong xenopsych research and diplomatic modeling computing.

I'm thinking its a combination of good xenopsych software, very powerful subspace communicators, and spacious interior suites at least for the officers and guests.

Also, food replicators. Maybe holodeck too, but that's a newer invention so maybe not installed until the new refit (which is supposed to give them a P boost, so it actually fits).
 
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Probably a combination all of the above. Xenopsych, computers, holodeck, lavish use of holograms, and a tendency to want to show off their technology. They aren't just making an impression, they're upstaging the other institutes.
 
Is there any chance of completely dismantling section 31, or are we going to continue using them as our black ops wet work specialists?
 
Is there any chance of completely dismantling section 31, or are we going to continue using them as our black ops wet work specialists?
I'm... not actually sure we have Section 31 as such. We have secretive commando units, but their specialization doesn't seem to be assassinations and they aren't a bunch of renegade lunatics. Look up Iron Wolf's omakes, Oneiros' Master of Orion posts, and the recent account of the Amoxa raid for examples.

The real problem with Section 31 was always the fact that they didn't really seem to do 'oversight' or 'accountability,' they just ran around doing whatever the hell they wanted. Interestingly... Iron Wolf wrote an omake or two in which Starfleet Intelligence rounded up a conspiracy that sounded a LOT like it was the kind of thing that would WANT to grow into Section 31 some day.

Shipping anthropomorphic personifications of spacecraft is one thing. Shipping a nerdy science club girl with the captain of the cheerleading team is another. Unless I'm misreading you here, you're going for BOTH AT ONCE. You madman.

:o
Enterprise:

"You've got a sensor ghost in your ship proximity detector, sis, I said like for a reason. Also... cheerleading? Seriously? Look, a friend of an old, old crewman of mine said it best... How did it go?"

[mumbles, thinking]

"Oh. Here it is. I am, and ever will be, a white-socks, pocket protector, nerdy engineer. Born under the Second Law of Thermodynamics, steeped in the steam tables, in love with free body diagrams, transformed by Laplace and propelled by compressible flow."

"So there. :p "
 
Enterprise:

"You've got a sensor ghost in your ship proximity detector, sis, I said like for a reason. Also... cheerleading? Seriously? Look, a friend of an old, old crewman of mine said it best... How did it go?"

[mumbles, thinking]

"Oh. Here it is. I am, and ever will be, a white-socks, pocket protector, nerdy engineer. Born under the Second Law of Thermodynamics, steeped in the steam tables, in love with free body diagrams, transformed by Laplace and propelled by compressible flow."

"So there. :p "

Lol, she's blushing.
 
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