To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

lbmaian · Apr 26, 2017

I'll be busy for rest of the week at least, so can't participate much (and then I'll have to trudge through 20+ pages of discussion ><), but some interesting notes:

OneirosTheWriter said:
Dhara Heavy Industry Park (Andor) - Prepare components for 2x1mt Repair Yard Berths (3 Months) - ETC 2315.Q1.M3.F1

Gorc Belth Colonial Engineers - Place defensive minefields in Kappa Tau (Sets minefield of Low Density, Low Waves, High Strength, Medium Stealth) - 1 month

Both of these should finish this month. In particular, 2315.Q1.M3.F1 is the current in-game date.

Does this mean that both Dhara Heavy Industry Park and Gorc Belth Colonial Engineers will be available for new assignments this month?

The engineers should obviously work on building the 2x1mt repair yard, while the heavy industry team ... well we'll see what other repairs/construction may need to be rushed then.

North America Productivity Commission (UESPA) - Brute force repairs for USS Hood (1.5x penalty to cost, 4x speed increase)
Morchell Arebb Complex (Rigel) - Brute force repairs (1.5x penalty to cost, 4x speed increase) Yagad-Tich

Doesn't match the vote, but maybe the doubling up on brute force repairs isn't valid anyway.

ClawClawBite · Apr 26, 2017

If we are going to name Ships after ships, don't we have to start with the original otp: Spirk?

Glassware · Apr 26, 2017

lbmaian said:
The engineers should obviously work on building the 2x1mt repair yard, while the heavy industry team ... well we'll see what other repairs/construction may need to be rushed then.

Rigel is still building that second Megatortoise, right?

Iron Wolf · Apr 26, 2017

Glassware said:
Rigel is still building that second Megatortoise, right?

As is fitting for fighting people stuck in the middle ages, I like the idea we're going to double up on the Megatortoises and use 'em like battering rams in TF3.

KNOCK KNOCK OPEN UP THE DOOR IT'S REAL

SynchronizedWritersBlock · Apr 26, 2017

@OneirosTheWriter can we bank mobilization?

Leila Hann · Apr 26, 2017

Too bad the second megatortoise isn't getting rushed in the end. Having another of those would be damned useful when we run into more minefields.

I'm thinking of doing another ship-analysis omake for the megatortoise. Last one was the Shakakoun (smallest frigate in the game), so a giant supercap would be a nice one to do next.

Iron Wolf · Apr 26, 2017

Leila Hann said:
Too bad the second megatortoise isn't getting rushed in the end. Having another of those would be damned useful when we run into more minefields.

Oh. I thought the plan was to do that when we got another HI team free. Oops.

I'm thinking of doing another ship-analysis omake for the megatortoise. Last one was the Shakakoun (smallest frigate in the game), so a giant supercap would be a nice one to do next.

I'd read it!

Simon_Jester · Apr 26, 2017

Leila Hann said:
Too bad the second megatortoise isn't getting rushed in the end. Having another of those would be damned useful when we run into more minefields.

I'm thinking of doing another ship-analysis omake for the megatortoise. Last one was the Shakakoun (smallest frigate in the game), so a giant supercap would be a nice one to do next.

Oooh ooh yay!

ClawClawBite said:
If we are going to name Ships after ships, don't we have to start with the original otp: Spirk?

Enterprise:

"...Oh right, that one! I saved a lot of dilithium running off the yelling imbalances that one set up between the Kirk-Rand and Spock-Chapel pairings."

SynchronizedWritersBlock · Apr 26, 2017

[x][WS] Base Plan Runabouts and Ships
-[x] Starfleet Academy Red Squad Runabouts - Recon team (4 cost for Starfleet, gain +1 to outpost and starbase attempts to detect incoming ships)
-[x] Federalise Fleet Units from Rigel: 1 Turtleship
-[x] Federalise Fleet Units from United Earth: 1 Constitution-B, 1 Centaur-A
-[x] Federalise Fleet Units from Tellar: 1 Centaur-A
-[x] Bank 10 points

I actually kind of prefer Briefvoice's innovation of grabbing the generic internal diplo team but here is an alternative for those who want to save points. The ships would all be destined for TF3.

OneirosTheWriter said:
-Task Force 6, Naval Supervisor Anak Hadd-Banad
--IGS Hadd-Mal, Gaeni Tech-Cruiser, Senior Naval Specialist Kant Tarkoia-Mal
--IGS Pall-Keat, Gaeni Tech-Cruiser
--IGS Tar-Anat, Gaeni Tech-Cruiser
--IGS Akad-Noa, Gaeni Tech-Cruiser
--IGS Fadath-Toir, Gaeni Tech-Frigate, Mid-Senior Naval Specialist Loia Maladd-Toir
--IGS Hidik-Daya, Gaeni Tech-Frigate
--IGS Nuoth-Far, Gaeni Tech-Frigate

Also I just want to say I love the Gaeni ranks.

UbeOne · Apr 26, 2017

The Yan-Ros's first starships:

USS White Rose
USS Bumblebee
USS Monochrome
USS Ladybug
USS Freezerburn

Random Member · Apr 26, 2017

UbeOne said:
The Yan-Ros's first starships:

USS White Rose
USS Bumblebee
USS Monochrome
USS Ladybug
USS Freezerburn

The USS Arkos unfortunately crashed and burned.

AlphaDelta · Apr 26, 2017

SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
The choice here seems to be one internal diplo team for 20 vs red squad for 4 and perhaps some ships and maybe the 8-point Tellarite HI. There is the final 10-point engineering team, but it's out of Rigel's deteriorating support, which may not be wise. Perhaps we should spend 10 and save 10, too.

Woo! Red Squad(ron)!

... I'll catch up on the timeline... Sometime.

I'm done with the very first personal log from the Academy series. It's the first snippet I'm comfortable releasing. I'll post it once I have another look over it.

Briefvoice · Apr 26, 2017

So I think we should keep the Federation Emergency Committee mobilized one more month so that we can order this:

Starfleet Reserve Personnel (20pt from Starfleet, +20 O/E/T for duration of SoE only, one-time)

We don't quite need them yet, but better to have and not need than need and not have. And we're likely to take enough casualties that we will need them.

AlphaDelta · Apr 26, 2017

Omake: Starfleet Academy: Prologue/Pilot

"Computer, begin log."

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Personal Log, Cadet Fourth Class Oliver Rondeau, Stardate 230X.08.XX
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Testing, one, two, three. Looks like the automatic transcription is working perfectly.

It feels strange saying my thoughts to a computer so that they can be recorded for posterity, but I suppose it's just another thing I will have to get used to, like wearing a uniform. At least it's comfortable and red - red's my favorite color -- hang on. That's not how you spell color.

Computer, set default transcription language to Canadian English.

Colour. Favourite. Poutine. There we go. Much better.

Anyway, this week is dedicated to getting us adjusted to Academy life, and Starfleet in general. Aside from a few tours, introductory seminars and activities, and our physical, the week is empty. Great-Aunt Sofie, who ran security on the Lexington, mumbled something about lowering standards when I got in, but I am pretty sure she means well. She was very happy when she heard Lexington was being recommissioned - she served under Admiral Kahurangi on the Lexington. We haven't seen her for a long time - I think the last time was in '98 or '99, when she was on sabbatical.

I'm still not quite sure what I want to study at the academy yet. Something in the School of Astrosciences will do for a major, but that doesn't cover what track I'll follow. It won't be administration though. It's a necessary track, but that doesn't make me want to sit behind a desk all day. I want to be on an Excelsior or Ambassador, pushing the frontiers, one light-hour at a time.

I'm not sure what else to say, so I'll end this log here. With a lot of hard effort, and a bit of luck, I can - no - I will soar through the stars.

Cadet Oliver Rondeau, signing off.
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"Computer, end log."

A/N: Thoughts? Consider this a prologue/pilot for a series, as well as a RFC. I'm still in the world generation stage, but this should be a nice appetizer.

Iron Wolf · Apr 26, 2017

AlphaDelta said:
Anyway, this week is dedicated to getting us adjusted to Academy life, and Starfleet in general. Aside from a few tours, introductory seminars and activities, and our physical, the week is empty. Great-Aunt Sofie, who ran security on the Lexington, mumbled something about lowering standards when I got in, but I am pretty sure she means well. She was very happy when she heard the Lexington was being refitted - she served under Admiral Kahurangi on the Lexington.

I think technically speaking Lexington wasn't refitted as much as it was recommissioned as basically an entirely new vessel. If it's one of the ones that got cannibalized it would basically consist of the Refit Lexington's nacelles and some warp core and computer components IIRC.

Paging Commodore Leslie I MEAn @Simon_Jester

AlphaDelta · Apr 26, 2017

Iron Wolf said:
I think technically speaking Lexington wasn't refitted as much as it was recommissioned as basically an entirely new vessel. If it's one of the ones that got cannibalized it would basically consist of the Refit Lexington's nacelles and some warp core and computer components IIRC.

Paging Commodore Leslie I MEAn @Simon_Jester

Fair enough. Edited (as of 30 seconds in the future).

OneirosTheWriter · Apr 26, 2017

Briefvoice said:
Weren't you going to add a vote on where to assign the Rru'adorr within the LBZ force?

Oops - I've added that in now.

Briefvoice · Apr 26, 2017

Now that the Ship vote is open, I have edited my vote to add it it. I propose adding the Rru'adorr to Task Force 4, since right now TF only has C26. A second Excelsior will beef it up considerably and give it more ability to hold off a serious attempt by the Arcadians to penetrate our lines and hit one of our worlds. ("Serious" meaning 5+ ships.)

Briefvoice said:
[X][SHIP] Task Force 4

EDIT: I think that Task Force 4 could use one more heavy hitter. It's a little under-powered right now if it had to hold off a serious strike. So I'm assigning the Rru'adorr there.

[X][WS] Plan Recon and Diplomacy
-[X] Starfleet Academy Red Squad Runabouts - Recon team (4 cost for Starfleet, gain +1 to outpost and starbase attempts to detect incoming ships)
-[X] Generate Generic Internal Diplomacy Team from United Earth (10 Cost to Starfleet, 5 Cost to Member World, gain Internal Diplomacy Team)

This is pretty cost efficient. We get another recon team and we get a generic team, with 14 of the cost from Starfleet (the place we're least worried about losing war support).

How about my proposal above? EDIT: Benefit is that we can assign the generic team to start raising war support, cushioning shock, and that sort of thing.

Simon_Jester · Apr 26, 2017

Iron Wolf said:
I think technically speaking Lexington wasn't refitted as much as it was recommissioned as basically an entirely new vessel. If it's one of the ones that got cannibalized it would basically consist of the Refit Lexington's nacelles and some warp core and computer components IIRC.

Paging Commodore Leslie I MEAn @Simon_Jester

Basically, due to improper mothballing procedures and bad interactions with an experimental material science technique from the 2270s, the old Constitutions are masses of loosely connected metal dust in the shape of a Connie. Only the warp nacelles (some of them) and deflectors (some of them) and the internal machinery (some of it) were salvageable. The Constitution-Bs contain a significant number of salvaged parts, and spare parts for the Constitution-As that were never used. However, the entire physical framework of the ships had to be rebuilt, and much of the equipment was replaced with more modern equipment.

We certainly paid for the ConnieBees as if they were brand new ships, though we got a reduced price on the SR cost for the first four (including Lady Lex), as a result of reuse of Constitution-A components. That was an omake bonus, though.

So basically, the question of whether 'our' Lexington is the same Lexington that got shot at during the M-5 incident in Kirk's day is a variation of the "Ship of Theseus" question in philosophy.

AlphaDelta · Apr 26, 2017

Simon_Jester said:
Basically, due to improper mothballing procedures and bad interactions with an experimental material science technique from the 2270s, the old Constitutions are masses of loosely connected metal dust in the shape of a Connie. Only the warp nacelles (some of them) and deflectors (some of them) and the internal machinery (some of it) were salvageable. The Constitution-Bs contain a significant number of salvaged parts, and spare parts for the Constitution-As that were never used. However, the entire physical framework of the ships had to be rebuilt, and much of the equipment was replaced with more modern equipment.

So basically, the question of whether 'our' Lexington is the same Lexington that got shot at during the M-5 incident in Kirk's day is a variation of the "Ship of Theseus" question in philosophy. We certainly paid for the ConnieBees as if they were brand new ships.

I changed it from refit, which is definitely wrong, to recommission.

I think I'll change it again to rebuild, or both.

Aeondrac · Apr 26, 2017

[X] Briefvoice

Nervos Belli · Apr 26, 2017

AlphaDelta said:
I changed it from refit, which is definitely wrong, to recommission.

I think I'll change it again to rebuild, or both.

If you want to be poetic, you could call it a reincarnation or a rebirth.

Simon_Jester · Apr 26, 2017

Looking back, the model we seem to be going with for the Constitution rebuild project is that outlined in three of my omakes: These Old Bones, Old Heart, New Sinews, and Old Voices, New Vigor.

[Incidentally, some of the image links are broken because of the Great Dropbox Kerfloop; I still have the images, but don't know the best way to re-upload them in a way that will be stable. Suggestions?]

Glassware · Apr 26, 2017

[X] Briefvoice

Adhoc vote count started by Briefvoice on Apr 26, 2017 at 9:03 PM, finished with 44428 posts and 3 votes.

1 people have voted
[X][WS] Plan Recon and Diplomacy
-[X] Starfleet Academy Red Squad Runabouts - Recon team (4 cost for Starfleet, gain +1 to outpost and starbase attempts to detect incoming ships)
-[X] Generate Generic Internal Diplomacy Team from United Earth (10 Cost to Starfleet, 5 Cost to Member World, gain Internal Diplomacy Team)
- Briefvoice
1 people have voted
[X][WS] Plan Recon and Diplomacy
- Void Stalker
1 people have voted
[x][WS] Base Plan Runabouts and Ships
-[x] Starfleet Academy Red Squad Runabouts - Recon team (4 cost for Starfleet, gain +1 to outpost and starbase attempts to detect incoming ships)
-[x] Federalise Fleet Units from Rigel: 1 Turtleship
-[x] Federalise Fleet Units from United Earth: 1 Constitution-B, 1 Centaur-A
-[x] Federalise Fleet Units from Tellar: 1 Centaur-A
-[x] Bank 10 points
- SynchronizedWritersBlock

Adhoc vote count started by Glassware on Apr 26, 2017 at 10:38 PM, finished with 44437 posts and 2 votes.

2 people have voted
[X] Briefvoice
- Aeondrac
- Glassware

Adhoc vote count started by Glassware on Apr 26, 2017 at 10:38 PM, finished with 44437 posts and 2 votes.

2 people have voted
[X] Briefvoice
- Aeondrac
- Glassware

AlphaDelta · Apr 26, 2017

Nervos Belli said:
If you want to be poetic, you could call it a reincarnation or a rebirth.

Hmm. My characterization is a bit bland. Any ideas for spicing it up? Oliver is Canadian, but that's all I have right now.

@Simon_Jester: Here's an idea for you.

Simon_Jester said:
Looking back, the model we seem to be going with for the Constitution rebuild project is that outlined in three of my omakes: These Old Bones, Old Heart, New Sinews, and Old Voices, New Vigor.

[Incidentally, some of the image links are broken because of the Great Dropbox Kerfloop; I still have the images, but don't know the best way to re-upload them in a way that will be stable. Suggestions?]

Imgur? I dislike it, but it's stable.

EDIT: Thread is sleepy

Only a handful of pages in a day.

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