To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

[Artemis1992]

Will the Captain selection be counted in block or each alone?

 

[AKuz]

Not jumping on the Straak train? He seems fairly popular as an alternate choice.

Also I have to wonder if this vote isn't a little weird. @OneirosTheWriter, are you looking at which Captains have the most overall votes regardless of their placement, or are people's votes strictly counted as Captain + Placement? For example, I'm looking at @aledeth 's vote. He and I clearly both want Michel Thuir as a 5YM Captain, but I'm worried because he's putting Thuir as the Courageous' captain and I'm putting him as the Miracht's our vote is effectively split.

V O T I N G S Y S T E M S

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Shoot, miscounted, changed

 

[Muer'ci]

[X][TLOREL] Director of Operations, Starfleet Explorer Command, +2 pp/year
[X][EATON] Director, Starfleet Data Modelling, Ship Design Bureau, +1 to Sensor Research

[X][FYM] Select Captains
-[X] USS Courageous: Maram Ajam
-[X] USS Sarek: Straak
-[X] USS Miracht: Michel Thuir

[x][COM] Commodore Viraan zh'Dohlen

I want Sulu, but I want him moving up, not sideways. Will wait till it's an actual promotion, not just reassignment.

 

[Iron Wolf]

Hopefully Sulu doesn't get miffed about being passed over, so to speak, and then forms an unholy Alliance with Harriman to unseat us.

 

[nocarename]

[X][TLOREL] Director of Operations, Starfleet Explorer Command, +2 pp/year

[x][EATON] Director, Starfleet Data Modelling, Ship Design Bureau, +1 to Sensor Research

-[X] USS Courageous: Maryam Ajam
-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Straak
-[X] USS Miracht: Michel Thuir

[X][COM] Rear Admiral Hikaru Sulu

I will say that the mirror universe log killed most of my enthusiasm for actually finishing the Ballad of Captain T'Lorel a.k.a. 'I phasered them and now we're friends: the musical'.

 

[Artemis1992]

By the way, the Mirror Verse has clearly shown that we are too good. The counterparts are extremly, cartoonishly EVIL because we are that good.
If we went a bit closer to neutral, maybe the counterparts woulld become more pragmatically evil and we would make an entire universe a better place.
Is that not worth sacrificing a bit of our moral highground?

 

[UbeOne]

Is that not worth sacrificing a bit of our moral highground?

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The Federation relies on the moral high ground. That's not something we can give up.

 

[Artemis1992]

The Federation relies on the moral high ground. That's not something we can give up.

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Not for making an entire Universe a better place? Is that not the true Highground?

 

[Theunderbolt]

And while it's all happening, Nash ka'Sharren is out there plundering the flower of Cardassian family virtue exploring the grandness of space, far beyond these petty concerns.

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In the future there will be four known standards for captains in the federation.

The Kirk, the Picard, the Sisko, and then there's the Nash.

 

[UbeOne]

What about the T'Lorel?

 

[Theunderbolt]

What about the T'Lorel?

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That is the secret forbidden technique passed down through the diplomacy corp for when Maximum Diplomacy is needed.

 

[Nix]

Here are three attempts at ships. Comments?

Spoiler: Escort

Spoiler: Cruiser

Spoiler: Explorer

@Nix? @anon_user? @sebsmith?

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Intentionally going without design techs and pretty reasonable for that. Nice fine-tuning of the energy budget. Whether It would actually make sense for us to do it like that (no design techs) is a separate issue, and I don't think so, but you clearly grasp how to do it.

 

[UbeOne]

Intentionally going without design techs and pretty reasonable for that. Nice fine-tuning of the energy budget. Whether It would actually make sense for us to do it like that (no design techs) is a separate issue, and I don't think so, but you clearly grasp how to do it.

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How about the ships themselves compared to their peers?

What level of design techs would you recommend?

 

[Random Member]

Not for making an entire Universe a better place? Is that not the true Highground?

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Ours is the only reality of consequence.

 

[UbeOne]

That is the secret forbidden technique passed down through the diplomacy corp for when Maximum Diplomacy is needed.

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This technique has been passed down the T'Lorel line for generations!

 

[10ebbor10]

By the way, the Mirror Verse has clearly shown that we are too good. The counterparts are extremly, cartoonishly EVIL because we are that good.
If we went a bit closer to neutral, maybe the counterparts woulld become more pragmatically evil and we would make an entire universe a better place.
Is that not worth sacrificing a bit of our moral highground?

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While the fans call them mirror universe, that's only a nickname, not a fact.

What if the actual nature of said multiverse is merely an "eviler than thou" universe. Then becoming less good would be worse.

 

[SynchronizedWritersBlock]

[X][COM] Commodore Viraan zh'Dohlen

Snakepit is coming in a quarter. If there's a furor about Sulu, we can quell it then.

 

[AKuz]

If they want him somewhere, they can force out the Old Guard Tactical Admiral so we can slide Sulu in

 

[Iron Wolf]

Not for making an entire Universe a better place? Is that not the true Highground?

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The truest High, ground or otherwise, can be found at Buddy's Buds Cannabis Emporium, located at 3040 W Hast--

 

[UbeOne]

"Reputation is nice and all, and Rear Admiral Sulu certainly deserves his, but I choose my officers based on their skills. I will not deny his talent, but it just so happens that the others have what I need more."

 

[Theunderbolt]

This technique has been passed down the T'Lorel line for generations!

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HFW she see's her child doing orbital bombardment calculations for his/her thesis.

 

[Briefvoice]

So here's a little preview on possible Fleet Composition in 2311.

Right now we have 6 Excelsiors and 4 more under construction. We will probably do one more when the Andor shipyard opens up next year, because why not?

Shipyards
San Francisco Fleet Yards: SF3mt-A, SF1mt-A, SF1mt-B
40 Eridani A Shipyards: 40E3mt-A, 40E3mt-B, 40E1mt-A, 40E1mt-B
Ana Font Shipyard: AF2.5mt-A
Andor: AN2.5mt-A (available 2307)
Utopia Planetia: UP3mt-A, UP3mt-B, UP1mt-A, UP1mt-B (available 2309 Construction)

2306Q1
SF3mt-A: Excelsior (year 1/4 construction) *new*
SF1mt-A: Constellation (year 3/3 construction)
SF1mt-B: empty
40E3mt-A: Excelsior (year 3/4 construction)
40E3mt-B: Excelsior (year 1/4 construction) *new*
40E1mt-A: empty
40E1mt-B: empty
AF2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 2/4 construction)

2306Q2 - Request Constellation Refit program

2307Q1
SF3mt-A: Excelsior (year 2/4 construction)
SF1mt-A: Centaur (year 1/2 construction) *new*
SF1mt-B: Centaur (year 1/2 construction) *new*
40E3mt-A: Excelsior (year 4/4 construction) *crew deduct*
40E3mt-B: Excelsior (year 2/4 construction)
40E1mt-A: empty
40E1mt-B: empty
AF2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 3/4 construction)
AN2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 1/4 construction)

Begun in 2307:
1 Excelsior, 2 Centaurs
Requires 390 br, 270 sr (if insufficient resources, scrap Soyuzes to make up the difference.)
Required Crew Deduction: 1 Excelsior
Complete: 1 Excelsior (in 2308Q1)

2308Q1
SF3mt-A: Excelsior (year 3/4 construction)
SF1mt-A: Centaur (year 2/2 construction) *crew deduct*
SF1mt-B: Centaur (year 2/2 construction) *crew deduct*
40E3mt-A: Excelsior (year 1/4 construction) *new*
40E3mt-B: Excelsior (year 3/4 construction)
40E1mt-A: Constellation Refit (year 1/1) *new*
40E1mt-B: Constellation Refit (year 1/1) *new*
AF2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 4/4 construction) *crew deduct*
AN2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 2/4 construction)

Begun in 2308:
1 Excelsior, two Constellation refits (20 br, 10 sr each)
Requires 270 br, 170 sr
Required Crew Deduction: 1 Excelsior, 2 Centaurs
Completed: 1 Excelsior, 2 Centaurs (in 2309Q1)

2309Q1
SF3mt-A: Excelsior (year 4/4 construction) *crew deduct*
SF1mt-A: Constellation Refit (year 1/1) *new*
SF1mt-B: Constellation Refit (year 1/1) *new*
40E3mt-A: Excelsior (year 2/4 construction)
40E3mt-B: Excelsior (year 4/4 construction) *crew deduct*
40E1mt-A: empty
40E1mt-B: empty
AF2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 1/4 construction) *new*
AN2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 3/4 construction)
UP3mt-A: Excelsior (year 1/4 construction) *new*
UP3mt-B: empty
UP1mt-A: Reserved for Renaissance prototype
UP1mt-B: empty

Begun in 2309:
2 Excelsior, two Constellation refits (20 br, 10 sr each)
Requires 500 br, 320 sr (continue to scrap Soyuz and then Mirandas to make up the difference)
Required Crew Deduction: 2 Excelsiors
Completed: 2 Excelsiors (in 2310Q1)

2310Q1
SF3mt-A: Excelsior (year 1/4 construction) *new*
SF1mt-A: Constellation Refit (year 1/1) *new*
SF1mt-B: Constellation Refit (year 1/1) *new*
40E3mt-A: Excelsior (year 3/4 construction)
40E3mt-B: empty
40E1mt-A: Constellation Refit (year 1/1) *new*
40E1mt-B: Constellation Refit (year 1/1) *new*
AF2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 2/4 construction)
AN2.5mt-A: Excelsior (year 4/4 construction) *crew deduct*
UP3mt-A: Excelsior (year 2/4 construction)
UP3mt-B: empty
UP1mt-A: Reserved for Renaissance prototype
UP1mt-B: empty

Begun in 2310:
1 Excelsior, four Constellation refits (20 br, 10 sr each)
Requires 390 br, 270 sr
Required Crew Deduction: 1 Excelsiors
Completed: 1 Excelsiors (in 2311Q1)

2311 Q1 Fleet
Excelsiors 11 = 66C, 66D, 55S
Constitution 1 = 5C, 5D, 4S
Refitted Constellations 8 = 32C, 32D, 24S
Oberths 4 = 4C, 4D, 20S
Centaurs 4 = 12C, 8D, 8S
Miranda 10 = 30C, 20D, 10S

Assumes all 4 Soyuz and 1 Miranda has been scrapped. I really, really want to scrap those Soyuz. It would be a disaster if one actually responded to a random mission.

Total Fleet:
38 Ships
149 Combat
135 Defense
121 Science

Of course we may build more ships than that if the resources are there once UP comes online, but as a target what does everyone think of the above?

 

[SuperSonicSound]

@OneirosTheWriter

There are some bugs with the ship design sheet that I've found for how the warp core jumps to the next level up even though there is still enough power available due to power core rating design fudge factor.

 

[ClawClawBite]

Can we crew that build given current academy rates with some margin for emergency?

 

[Nix]

How about the ships themselves compared to their peers?

What level of design techs would you recommend?

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It's not very clear what role the ships are supposed to have, and what do you mean by peers? They have a relatively low defense stat so they wouldn't be good for home defense, but otherwise they are fine.

Depends on many factors, the skill level of the design team, whether you need it finished quickly for some external reason, how long the prototype would take, whether you need the savings for something specific you are aiming for, the outlook for berth/resource/crew availability, how adequate the previous ship class of that type still is...