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Eddie Leslie:
"I don't always drunkpost, but when I do, it gets turned into the lyrics to Banned from Argo."
"I don't always drunkpost, but when I do, it gets turned into the lyrics to Banned from Argo."
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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- Australia
Okay, so I only woke up a couple hours ago (nearly 2 in the afternoon) because I kept waking up during the night with an awful toothache (need to get a wisdom tooth out).
So I don't exactly know what planet I'm on atm (handy when running a trek quest).
I was actually aware of that already ;D
So I don't exactly know what planet I'm on atm (handy when running a trek quest).
I was actually aware of that already ;D
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- Australia
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Drunkposting - not even once.
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- Australia
Vote has closed - anyone able to give a final tally?
There is a tie on Task [Lady]:
Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) | Page 1696 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.4
Task: AOG
[X][AOG] Assign to Betazed
No. of Votes: 16
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Task: ENG
[X][ENG] Rush Betazed Starbase Construction (2x Speed)
No. of Votes: 17
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Task: FLEET
[X][FLEET] Plan Even Distribution
-[X] Tellar Constitution-B to Task Force 1
-[X] 2 of Tellar Miranda-As to Task Force 2
-[X] 1 Tellar Miranda-A and Tellar Constellation to Task Force 3
-[X] Rigellian Oda-Gach and Vulcan Oberth to Task Force 4
No. of Votes: 10
[X][FLEET] Plan Members Together
-[X] Tellar Constellation and 2 Miranda-As to TF1
-[X] Move the UES Calgary to TF2, assign the Tellar Constituion-B and 1 Miranda-A to TF2
-[X] Assign the new Oda-Gach and the Vulcan Oberth to TF4
No. of Votes: 7
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Task: IND
[X][IND] Prepare components for 2x1mt Repair Yard Berths (3 Months)
No. of Votes: 16
[X][IND] Rush Starship Construction for Courageous
No. of Votes: 1
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Task: LADY
[X][LADY] Lobby Council on your behalf (Chance of random war support gains)
No. of Votes: 6
[X][LADY] Convey a write-in request to Licori House of her choice
-[X] Feel out willingness to make and keep a deal on mentat control
No. of Votes: 6
[X][LADY] Increase Mobilisation Rate by +10
No. of Votes: 5
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Task: VSC
[X][VSC] Assign to Clover
No. of Votes: 16
Total No. of Voters: 18
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- Australia
Hmm, we need a tie-break for Admiral Kahurangi's assignment?
So if this lobby effort crashes and burns as a waste of an action, will SWB be convincingly refuted?
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- Germany
No. Just because a diplomatic approach doesn't succeed on first try doesn't mean it can't succeed at all.
This would be like concluding that a war approach is automatically futile as soon as we lose the first battle.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Enterprise:
"Well obviously I am to you, now."
[sticks out her tongue]
Enterprise:
"Ooooh, that is a toughie. I've met a LOT of spaceships. HmmmMMmmmmm..."
"V'Ger was kind of... mysterious and amazing and grand. I'm not sure if there's such a thing as transspaceshipism, but I think she's on the other side of it. It was kind of humbling getting a chance to set her straight. Then again, I never liked V'Ger." [frowns] "Show-off."
[thinks]
"Back in Jim's early days, I didn't get many chances to meet ships as you might think, and a lot of them were Klingons. [face scrunches up in distaste] The Cardassian frontier fleet ships actually would have been a lot nicer than the Klingons used to be, if only they didn't have this weird blind spot about getting along with anyone ever. Devoras was cool. Fun to tease, but I really liked getting to work with her. The fight with the Biophage was so terrifying I'm not even sure how to explain it, but there were some compensations. Hmm... I don't really think of Riala as an alien anymore, she's family now. So... yeah, I'm going with Devoras. At least if we stick to the last forty or fifty years."
"Renaissance is, as far as I can tell, totally new to the game, with almost no history as anything other than, like, a yacht. So naturally she's the most adorable little thing I've met since the Constellations were new." [tilts head, looking off into the distance and into the sky at an angle and smiling, starts cooing] "Oo's a cute widdle overachieving talented widdle babycruiser? Oo are! Yes oo are!"
"La- Leaniss-" [Enterprise corrects herself firmly] "is a real go-getter. Not afraid to dream big, and believe me that's important. She talked us out of a lot of trouble back in the day, and she's sharp as a cosmic filament. I'm fond of her. She's an outstanding captain and a- anyone would be lucky to have her."
[Looks a bit sad]
"Ambies sound nice. Being one could be, uh... I'm not sure what to call it, interesting? Trying to keep up with them is going to be fun too."
[Pauses, musingly]
"If you live long enough, you run the legs off the new girls until they learn a healthy respect, and you get to see yourself become one of them. Though I'd rather not try it exactly the same way. I. Um. Not that I'd actually say no if if Nash came back again with a cutlass between her teeth and a Jolly Roger to hoist some time in the '20s and told me we had to go off practically alone together to save Sam or Leaniss or some such." [blushes] "That was fun to have happen once. But, uh, Excelsior's still grumpy about it thirty years later, so I um- mostly?- hope it doesn't happen again. Yeah. That's right." [nods firmly, trying to settle herself back down]
I was more trying to raise awareness. There's such a shortage of canon characters in this timeframe that any we do get are precious, IMO.
Ah well, good to know the approach can't fail us, we can only fail it.
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Seriously, what's the problem? As near as I can tell, @SynchronizedWritersBlock is pushing for diplomacy in order to improve our overall strategic picture; either we resolve this entire crisis without firing a shot, or we arrange to at least shoot fewer people.
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- Canada
Depends on what you call a 'waste of an action'; diplomacy doesn't guarantee tangible rewards.
My intuition is that we're going to need to fight, one way or the other. However, diplomacy might usefully reduce the scope of the conflict. For instance, we might agree to back the Emperor in a consolidation war to subjugate the other houses, in exchange for an agreement on Mentat controls... which will be enforceable once the Emperor is the ruler, instead of the first among equals. Also, I'm fairly certain that diplomacy will affect how much trouble we have picking up the pieces once the fighting is over.
Jenny
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Captain Anne Usha: "What do you miss about past designs of yourself? What would you like to see in future designs of yourself? Please be specific."
Wait, isn't Tuvok kicking around in here somewhere? Or is he on super-sabbatical?
this isn't an Enterprise question
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- Mid-Atlantic
There are two separate questions here.
One is whether diplomacy is a good or bad idea for resolving this crisis. There are very large rewards associated with succeeding at diplomacy, and very little risk if we don't entirely neglect physical defenses (which we aren't).
The other, totally different question, is whether it is a good idea at this time to ask Admiral Kahurangi, specifically and personally, to approach one of the representatives of the four Licori noble houses that happen to be represented by delegates on Earth, within the next two weeks. This could turn out to be a waste of time for a huge array of reasons that have literally nothing to do with whether interacting with the houses is a good or bad idea in a general sense.
SWB may or may not be taking the 'we need to push diplomacy' a bit farther than I'd like, and he's being considerably more dismissive of the need for physical preparations than I'd like (i.e. opposing the team that we wound up needng to rush work on the Betazed starbase). But that doesn't mean the right response is to turn cranky and passive-aggressive about anyone else who wants to try diplomacy.
One is whether diplomacy is a good or bad idea for resolving this crisis. There are very large rewards associated with succeeding at diplomacy, and very little risk if we don't entirely neglect physical defenses (which we aren't).
The other, totally different question, is whether it is a good idea at this time to ask Admiral Kahurangi, specifically and personally, to approach one of the representatives of the four Licori noble houses that happen to be represented by delegates on Earth, within the next two weeks. This could turn out to be a waste of time for a huge array of reasons that have literally nothing to do with whether interacting with the houses is a good or bad idea in a general sense.
So... can we please get a grip on the flow of salt? We're not entirely neglecting the development of our physical defenses, they're getting stronger every week.
SWB may or may not be taking the 'we need to push diplomacy' a bit farther than I'd like, and he's being considerably more dismissive of the need for physical preparations than I'd like (i.e. opposing the team that we wound up needng to rush work on the Betazed starbase). But that doesn't mean the right response is to turn cranky and passive-aggressive about anyone else who wants to try diplomacy.
I don't even think it's realistic to resolve the crisis without firing a shot. That would be too much too fast. Now if negotiations dragged out over say, 4 or more month-long action turns then it would become possible.
I do think it's realistic that we'd have a chance of convincing one or more houses to consider making some kind of deal, or to consider working with us after the war, if we reach out to them now. I also think that it's possible, if the FDS are trying the same thing, to reduce the scope of the conflict after a long and difficult negotiation. Maybe.
And as for the starbase rush, it would have been covered the next turn no matter what so that's not really fair either. I'd still rather have the diplomatic team now and get 4 weeks out of then and the engineers later than an extra 4 weeks work on the SB.
I do think it's realistic that we'd have a chance of convincing one or more houses to consider making some kind of deal, or to consider working with us after the war, if we reach out to them now. I also think that it's possible, if the FDS are trying the same thing, to reduce the scope of the conflict after a long and difficult negotiation. Maybe.
And as for the starbase rush, it would have been covered the next turn no matter what so that's not really fair either. I'd still rather have the diplomatic team now and get 4 weeks out of then and the engineers later than an extra 4 weeks work on the SB.
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I'd say it's fair as a criticism, even if in hindsight you don't think it was an important thing. A lot of people consider that starbase to be a very high priority.
"An arboretum. I know, I know, Nash fixed that. Next time, I want an arboretum from the keel up. They made room for one back in '43, they can do it now."
"Also, if you so much as twitch in my direction with that module nonsense, I will find a way to sic my veterans on you. There are a lot of them. And some of my agents... have character shields." [scowls]
Enterprise:
"An arboretum. I know, I know, Nash fixed that. Next time, I want an arboretum from the keel up. They made room for one back in '43, they can do it now."
"Also, if you so much as twitch in my direction with that module nonsense, I will find a way to sic my veterans on you. There are a lot of them. And some of my agents... have character shields." [scowls]
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Reaching our also shows that we are not violent prone aggressors. If we manage to get our point of view understood by at least on house, that will make ante-Federation propaganda harder to pull (and I am aware that it could be spun as 'bought by the Federation'. It cannot any longer be spun as 'shot without trying to avoid').
Modules do seem like someone else's great idea. Maybe a focused regional fleet like the Apiata's.
Completely tangential, but I just remembered that Kahurangi was injured in the M-5 computer incident.
Completely tangential, but I just remembered that Kahurangi was injured in the M-5 computer incident.
We still don't have that doctrine specialist either. I think the perfect hindsight plan might have been engineers, diplomats, and Kahurangi, because we thought we needed HI for the engineers but it turned out we already had a lot of parts in stock. Not that the perfect hindsight plan means anything at all.