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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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We already have warships. That's basically what a MiriA is. I'll bet that the S2 is mostly better short-range sensors and not crippling the thing realistically by snipping off important things for stats.

Akira isn't that great except 1v1.
 
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Forgothrax said:
We already have warships. That's basically what a MiriA is. I'll bet that the S2 is mostly better short-range sensors and not crippling the thing realistically by snipping off important things for stats.

Akira isn't that great except 1v1.
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Our warships aren't going to look at all like the front page one, because the way to make a C-efficient warship isn't to pump C, it's to pump H, L, and evade, which is comparable effective to pumping C but causes less political issues. The net result is also likely to double as a garrison escort/cruiser.
 
what will it take to get rid of the militarization point? Or are we at the point where we do want it?
 
ctulhuslp said:
Thuir is cheating though. Captain Common Sense and all.

Sorry, where is Thuir now?

EDIT: Nevermind, found him. Can we feasibly eventually make him Commander?
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What, as in, the top admiral of Starfleet? Sure, why not? Just keep promoting him.

On your original point... I'm looking it over, and I suspect all the Explorer Corps captains who served since 2301 have gotten the Matthews-Rayburn Award at least once. I'm pretty sure we'll find that Nash got it twice. Giving Thuir the Kaplan-Mallory Award is just recognizing how magnificently sensible he truly is.

UbeOne said:
*goes through the thread*

*sees Militarization point*

...One thing I don't like is the whole thread being punished because of one guy... :(
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Me too, UbeOne. Me too.

I'm prepared to accept that I (and/or others) may have borne some of the responsibility for that, but only if Oneiros is willing to explain what we did wrong, so that we can figure out how not to do it in the future.
 
Forgothrax said:
We already have warships. That's basically what a MiriA is. I'll bet that the S2 is mostly better short-range sensors and not crippling the thing realistically by snipping off important things for stats.

Akira isn't that great except 1v1.
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Akiras are a.) awesome, b.) pretty clearly a spiritual successor to the Mirandas, c.) awesome, d.) just as good at group-fighting as 1v1 as any other Feddie ship is/will be, and e.) awesome.
 
Simon_Jester said:
I'm prepared to accept that I (and/or others) may have borne some of the responsibility for that, but only if Oneiros is willing to explain what we did wrong, so that we can figure out how not to do it in the future.
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Alternatively, we accept it, deal with it, and the next time someone comes up with that kind of cockamamie scheme, we just ignore them instead of devoting 5 pages to arguments on an obviously inane topic and recriminations for the original poster.

We're adults, right?
 
Simon_Jester said:
I'm prepared to accept that I (and/or others) may have borne some of the responsibility for that, but only if Oneiros is willing to explain what we did wrong, so that we can figure out how not to do it in the future.
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pbluekan said:
Alternatively, we accept it, deal with it, and the next time someone comes up with that kind of cockamamie scheme, we just ignore them instead of devoting 5 pages to arguments on an obviously inane topic and recriminations for the original poster.

We're adults, right?
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Do we still have the Doomsday Machine in storage? This might be a good time to repair it and let it loose amidst the Licori home systems.
 
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Raron said:
You know, even though they blew up a star, we still got no RP from it. One would think that we would learn something from that.
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Well, we learned "don't blow up stars," but we already knew that, you see. ;)

Alastor Mobius Toth said:
*reads some more*

Oh look, an exploding star! More dead ships! Yaay?

Get your fucking shit together Ainsworth.
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About the only thing she could do to avoid this kind of stuff would be to attack the Sydraxians harder. And if even Ainsworth isn't attacking them yet, there's probably a very, very good reason. She's the most proverbially aggressive admiral we've got. She's so aggressive, appointing her to the Explorer Corps would have alarmed the Council hard enough to net us a militarization point. She wouldn't be on the defensive without a reason, so blaming her for it doesn't seem fair.

On the other hand, if the Council wants us to clean up Licori mess, it's a good opportunity to suggest to say "lol no". Either that, or we get permission to expand fleet or build pre-Akiras actual warships.
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Thaaat sounds like a good way to get Sousa replaced. "Our ships can't fight" isn't really the problem here.

pbluekan said:
Alternatively, we accept it, deal with it, and the next time someone comes up with that kind of cockamamie scheme, we just ignore them instead of devoting 5 pages to arguments on an obviously inane topic and recriminations for the original poster.

We're adults, right?
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On some level I cannot help but resent when twenty people or so have to all pretend that the loud rude person with the stupid ideas isn't in the room, for fear that we will be punished if we talk to him even if we all disagree. Living that way doesn't make me feel very much like an adult; it makes me feel like I'm on a schoolyard with a bully who can harass me freely because if I get mad I'll get in as much trouble as he does.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
Ambassador's Log, Morshadd, Ambassador Elisa Bairn, Stardate 25511.4

I honestly cannot call to mind the last time I raised this much unholy hell with someone. And if ever I do recall such a time, I am positive it will not be with a senior government minister. His Arcadian Majesty's Interior Minister was ashen faced and surprisingly accepting as I gave him a piece of the Council's mind. They are promising an investigation and full disclosure into the incident, though I am told by representatives of the various science academies that the exact mechanism employed by the Mentat is as yet being suppressed.

I don't mind that. I'm perfectly happy for that information to never rise into the public eye again.
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Diplomatic chewing out Omake go!

Screaming Diplomatically

Diplomacy, it is said, is the art of saying "Good doggy" while you look for a stick.

By the same token, it is equally the art of telling someone there isn't a big enough stick in the universe.

Now, diplomatically, you don't say things like "you maniacs" or "cut that shit out or we'll hurt you" or "what in the ever-loving jamaharon of Risa is wrong with you". It's diplomacy. But even diplomacy has its ways of expressing such things.

A discussion that includes the phrase "threat to the stability of the quadrant" more than once is usually an unhappy one. Toss in a few "unfriendly act"s, a phrase that typically warns someone they could get shot at, some statements of "grave concern" to indicate the matter is not negotiable, an oblique reference to the last time someone almost blew up Courageous (did we mention the Syndicate? No? That's because they're not worth mentioning anymore!), and finally the ultimate step "or we may be forced to consider action", hanging there ominously like the proverbial Sword of Damocles.

Then you have the equivalent of "By the unhallowed fates of Ulithi III and the martyrs of Lironh, sort out your problems quick because they're becoming our problems and you will not enjoy how we solve them and we will not accept anything less than full compliance because you are literally threatening to take out a major portion of the quadrant by whoopsies here. Science without logic! Somewhere Surak has been hooked up to a generator and is spinning fast enough to power most of Vulcan. You've already put one of your own colony worlds in danger. By whoopsies! Think about what would have happened if it had worked."
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