Eh. Heavy damage to one of our ships constitutes enough of a "good news for their side" that this really isn't a win for us. We only have so many ships available to escort our civilian vessels, so having one of them put in the hospital for 9-12 months is a serious problem.

Basically, the outcome is close enough that we can't judge whether it was a win or a loss until we know the strategic consequences. I'd say this is a loss for us if having Challorn out of commission enables a Sydraxian raid to exploit a weakness and do damage later. I'd say this is a win for us if Ainsworth rapidly seizes the opportunity granted by the Sydraxians stopping to repair two of their ships and hits them hard in a tender spot. I'd say it's a tie if nothing major happens on either side as a result, because the casualties weren't that high and nobody actually lost a ship.

That said, note that the Sydraxian ships screamed and ran away as soon as their shields were collapsed by EXETER SMASH. This may represent a change in their rules of engagement, exactly the sort of change you'd expect if they are either one, afraid of us... or two, out of repair berths for damaged ships.

The Matthews-Rayburn Captain of the Year award is given specifically for acting to preserve redshirt lives, generally by doing something out of the ordinary. It's the collective old redshirt hands of Starfleet voting you "Best. Captain. EVER." At least for this year, and only if you did things in ways that result in minimizing redshirt casualties.

[Kirk would never, never have won this award, if it had existed back in his glory days, which it didn't, as the names of the awards show. He tried, but he just never could pull it off]

Mbeki got the 2311 award for managing to save almost the entire crew of the Miracht despite the ship taking a radical nacellectomy.

Saavik got the award one year just by putting in her log something along the lines of "I have declined to remain in a known ambush zone awaiting further developments, and am instead proceeding to Risa," which is, well, "Best. Captain. EVER."

Nash got it in 2310 for inspired safety briefings, and probably at least one other year given how good she is at keeping her crew alive.

Thuir got the, uh... 2302? award for his handling of Ulith III, and also received the more prestigious Kaplan-Mallory Award for same.

McAdams is definitely a contender, though. But the year is young, so who knows what will happen?
Hopefully, she gets the award because nothing else happened :
 
That said, note that the Sydraxian ships screamed and ran away as soon as their shields were collapsed by EXETER SMASH. This may represent a change in their rules of engagement, exactly the sort of change you'd expect if they are either one, afraid of us... or two, out of repair berths for damaged ships.

I'd argue that fleeing as soon as the fight goes against them is entirely consistent with Sydraxian behavior as we've experienced it. If anything, the last battle with them (where they kept fighting after taking a ship loss) was the exception.
 
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Hopefully, she gets the award because nothing else happened :
The thing is, people get the Matthews-Rayburn award by not getting their crew killed. Or by getting far, far less of their crew killed than you would expect under the circumstances. Having lots of Matthews-Rayburn candidates isn't necessarily a bad thing.

McAdams managed to save all but a few percent of her people from an erupting sun and three months stranded in space, and that's impressive. But someone else might manage to top it.

I'd argue that fleeing as soon as the fight goes against them is entirely consistent with Sydraxian behavior as we've experienced it. If anything, the last battle with them (where they stayed past the point of losing a ship) was the exception.
True; and notably that was the one time we had them pinned up against their own 'nest,' namely the Deva outpost. If they'd started warping out as soon as they lost shields, Rivers would probably have been able to maul the outpost pretty badly.
 
Hey, I just realized something! The Enterprise didn't get its quarterly Event.

M1 Captain's Logs (Sarek and Atuin + non-EC ships)
M2 Captain's Logs (S'harien)
M3 Captain's Logs (Courageous + Odyssey)

No Enterprise!
The rarest and most unusual thing of all happened to the Enterprise.

They had a normal and boring mission.

"What's that on the scanners?"
"An asteroid, Ma'am."
"Is it hiding an unknown alien ship?"
"No, Ma'am"
"Is it causing any anomalies? Like time or gravity fluctuations?"
"No, Ma'am"
"Is it about to crash into a planet with a pre-warp civilization on it and we need to talk about whether or not we should save them?"
"No, Captain. It's in a stable orbit and there's no life in this system."
"Is it filled with rare and valuable elements we can use?"
"No, just nickel, iron and traces of other metals."
"...Are you sure there's no aliens hiding in it?"
"I'll check again."
 
Cowards! They are without honor!

and it must rankle. The entire war from their perspective is just a long string of humiliations and resorting to increasingly underhanded tactics. I mean, they forced one of there allies to fake a distress call, and that resulted in the federation smirking at them as they had to slink away with their tail between their legs. Sure bias can cover a lot, but I rather doubt there civilian morale is super high right now.
 
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The rarest and most unusual thing of all happened to the Enterprise.

They had a normal and boring mission.

"What's that on the scanners?"
"An asteroid, Ma'am."
"Is it hiding an unknown alien ship?"
"No, Ma'am"
"Is it causing any anomalies? Like time or gravity fluctuations?"
"No, Ma'am"
"Is it about to crash into a planet with a pre-warp civilization on it and we need to talk about whether or not we should save them?"
"No, Captain. It's in a stable orbit and there's no life in this system."
"Is it filled with rare and valuable elements we can use?"
"No, just nickel, iron and traces of other metals."
"...Are you sure there's no aliens hiding in it?"
"I'll check again."
Leslie:

[Pauses]

[Pauses longer]

[sheds single tear]
 
The rarest and most unusual thing of all happened to the Enterprise.

They had a normal and boring mission.

"What's that on the scanners?"
"An asteroid, Ma'am."
"Is it hiding an unknown alien ship?"
"No, Ma'am"
"Is it causing any anomalies? Like time or gravity fluctuations?"
"No, Ma'am"
"Is it about to crash into a planet with a pre-warp civilization on it and we need to talk about whether or not we should save them?"
"No, Captain. It's in a stable orbit and there's no life in this system."
"Is it filled with rare and valuable elements we can use?"
"No, just nickel, iron and traces of other metals."
"...Are you sure there's no aliens hiding in it?"
"I'll check again."

Hmm.

The rock whisperer must have temporarily transferred some of his knack for locating useful mineral deposits.
 
*goes through the thread*

*sees Militarization point*

...One thing I don't like is the whole thread being punished because of one guy... :(
 
and it must rankle. The entire war from their perspective is just a long string of humiliations and resorting to increasingly underhanded tactics. I mean, they forced one of there allies to fake a distress call, and that resulted in the federation smirking at them as they had to slink away with their tail between their legs. Sure bias can cover a lot, but I rather doubt there civilian morale is super high right now.

They never had to "resort" to doing that. The Federation had engaged in absolutely no aggressive actions toward them whatsoever at that point.
 
I'm not sure it changes the strategic situation at all, but I think it's worth pointing out that an artificial core collapse actually has peaceful applications. Remember, the collapse which crippled the Courageous lasted for only a short period, and ejected a lot of stellar matter which then began orbiting the star. What if the brevity of the collapse was not due to an incomplete/imperfect device/technique, but was intended? With sufficient refinement, a momentary collapse of this type might be able to induce a star to spew out large clouds of BR and SR for (relatively) easy collection. And since the star doesn't entirely explode, its gravity will keep the valuable materials neatly contained in orbit, rather than flying off into the cosmos.

That said - regardless of the original intent of the device/technique, it is a functional superweapon, so the strategic situation may remain the same. I simply hope we'll remember that even a core collapse device is not proof positive of the Licori being maliciously hostile - all of this could be the work of one noble house, or even a few rogue mentats building off each others work. Does something need to change? Yes. But we have no reason - yet - to think that only war can bring about that change. Indeed, war with the Ked Paddah does not seem to have curtailed the Licori's incautious physics experiments; the threat of war with a larger power may have similarly little effect. Therefore, I support the general intent in the thread to prepare for war if it proves absolutely necessary, but to begin with (vigorous) diplomatic outreach and negotiation. Anything the FDS can tell us about the true power and role of mentats in Licori culture would also be very welcome, since it would help us understand whether this is something the Licori permit, or whether they are actually trying to restrain the mentats and failing, or what.
 
You know, even though they blew up a star, we still got no RP from it. One would think that we would learn something from that.

Also, shouldn't the shields in battlelog regenerate at +3 instead of +1 on the side of Federation.
 
*reads some more*

Oh look, an exploding star! More dead ships! Yaay?

Get your fucking shit together Ainsworth.
On the other hand, if the Council wants us to clean up Licori mess, it's a good opportunity to suggest to say "lol no". Either that, or we get permission to expand fleet or build pre-Akiras actual warships.
 
Most of our ships can already handle themselves in battle. No need for Defiant-esque ships.
 
You know, even though they blew up a star, we still got no RP from it. One would think that we would learn something from that.
I doubt the Courageous had enough time to get readings beyond "Mentat here, star bad, run now." We'd get rp if we understood how the mentat did it by watching it happen, capturing a ship with their data about how they were doing it or putting together clues after it happened. This was more like trying to learn about explosions by seeing how many lit firecrackers you can juggle.
 
Even if we did have data on it, that data will never see the light of day. We are not getting RP because everything has been classified about as heavily as time travel techniques
 
The only upshots of this whole affair are that we're going we're going to get a whole bunch of bonus progress on various techs and diplo progress with the Ked Paddah out of the ensuing war.
 
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