To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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I think the Romulans need to work on their Universal Translators a little more.
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
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But can you work in black? Or very very dark gray?
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We have three years for ship production before the change in requirements would take place which includes the 4 renaissances from the current wave
If you feel like writing it up, I would be interested in Ainsworth's thoughts on the greater Gabriel Zone strategic situation now that she's been in command for a good year or so. (Wow, has it been that long already?)
Like, right now we're just assigning her ships based on what we think we can spare. But does she have specific requests beyond... "all the ships"? A sense of what she can or cannot accomplish with varying levels of support? With the current plan she's going to have 17 ships to play with by the end of the year. I have no idea whether she views that as a good force or barely sufficient for needs or what.
AKuz
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i do all the best greys and blacks and grey and grey and grey and grey and grey and grey. all the colours a perfectly normal human can see
i also do yellow
i also do red
please ignore extra thikk seams in ur red uniforms. is perfectly normal and not suspicious at all and was an accident and i never do it again
u want blue?
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That's a suboptimal design IMO. Also, sausage making in progress, please ignore.
I'll post my designs later, once I get back to a computer. EDIT: Posted. Well, reposted, with an online image host.
Check the SDB thread for details, and join the discussion there if you are interested in: Game Balance, Spreadsheets, Javascript, Google Apps Script, Lag, and broken images. Oh, and Ship Design.
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I needed an example for comedic effect.
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Didn't the treaty of Celos prohibit any military conflict outside of the Gabriel region? Would that not mean that they would be prohibited from attacking our forces outside of the expanse? As for why I suggested the area as a supply chain, it was less for a second angle of attack, and more that by claiming that region, Syndraxia and Yrillia would only have the Gabriel expanse as a potential expansion zone, where we can shoot 'em, or they stay where they are and become as irrelevant as the Dwarves.
aeqnai
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Wanna pressure the Ashalla Pact into breaking the Treaty? Cus this is how you pressure the Ashalla Pact into breaking the Treaty.
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If they choose to start a war due to us providing a minor amount of pressure due to cutting those two species off from nothing that is affiliated with the pact, than they are going to break the treaty if we succeed in Gabriel. At least this way, they are caught off guard and will be equally unprepared for the war.
I guess I don't understand the point. You can't reasonably 'claim' that area of space unless you actually put down colonies and give some sense of using it. Otherwise you're just arbitrarily saying that all the space around them belong to the Federation because.... well because we say it does? In which case they ignore our claims, and then we're the ones shooting first.
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@ThoughtMaster , how exactly do you propose to 'claim' a huge swath of space, which may well be inhabited by other sentient species with their own opinions on the matter, and prevent the Sydraxians from making use of it? If we're obviously hooking around behind them in an attempt to envelop their space, how do you expect them to react? Do you really think the Cardassians won't either demand that we stop, or demand that the Treaty of Celos be revised to incorporate this new trick of ours?
Your idea seems to be based on the idea that the Sydraxians and the Cardassians as a whole are so brick-stupid and inflexible that we can basically do anything we want to them, and their puny little brains won't even be able to comprehend the GENIUS of our strategies, that just happen to revolve around our magic do-anything-we-want powers.
Your idea seems to be based on the idea that the Sydraxians and the Cardassians as a whole are so brick-stupid and inflexible that we can basically do anything we want to them, and their puny little brains won't even be able to comprehend the GENIUS of our strategies, that just happen to revolve around our magic do-anything-we-want powers.
AKuz
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R U telling me that this /isn't/ Manticorian Star Empire simulator?!?!?!?
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Dunno if you should expect anything approaching common sense in that. This is coming from the person who suggested we use the Biophage against Cardassia.
Chaos Blade
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wait, weren't we playing with the "Abundant Lead deposits on Enemy species homeworlds"?
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Actually, that was more an idea to open up the possibility of use of the M.A.D. doctrine. As for using the loophole, it was primarily a reaction to how empty that section of space is, and I thought it would be a good idea to scout the area for possible colony sites, or to locate Syndraxian instillations.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Considering that even for the USA in the depths of the Cold War, Mutually Assured Destruction was never an explicit doctrine, the idea that the Federation would countenance something like that would be laughable if you weren't absolutely serious.
lbmaian
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Actually, we know that sensors (science) do play some sort of role in detection - we just don't know the specifics and how they're applicable to the GBZ. There have only been narrative hints.
Ainsworth allocated her two Centaur-As to the escort force - we all assumed that this was just because Miranda-As would be more efficient on the primary task force, but what if there was more to it than that?
It's not worth keeping around those Centaurs for such a nebulous reason (unless Oneiros clarifies what science stat is good for there), but I also wouldn't straight out say that there's no reason to have Centaur-As in the GBZ.
I figured it was more along the lines of Amarkia and Ferasa still having Syndicate-based event tables and probabilities, and that only after Q1 this year, will they have returned back to "normal".
For anyone curious.
Based on current designs, current ETC for the Ambassador Prototype is 2323.Q4. Current ETC for the first "wave" of Ambassadors built after the prototype is 2329.Q1.
So in other words, take the entire in-universe timespan this game has been running and add that to the current date. That's when you can expect Starfleet will have more than a single Ambassador. These big ships sure are long term projects, aren't they?
Based on current designs, current ETC for the Ambassador Prototype is 2323.Q4. Current ETC for the first "wave" of Ambassadors built after the prototype is 2329.Q1.
So in other words, take the entire in-universe timespan this game has been running and add that to the current date. That's when you can expect Starfleet will have more than a single Ambassador. These big ships sure are long term projects, aren't they?
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Does that include the discount from heavy industry?
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That would be very much mutually assured destruction, as a Biophage that managed to infect the whole of the Ashalla pact races, and thus has access to their ships and infrastructure would wind up turning on us, probably either wiping us out or weakening us enough that a takeover by our new Romulan or Klingon overlords would be inevitable...
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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Can we stop tempting Oneiros to start handing out the Militarization Points?
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Keeping up with Sydraxian activities on their other borders is a very good idea, and I suspect we'll have Explorer Corps ships make the rounds periodically.
While I doubt the UFP would seriously consider trying to weaponize the Biophage, any military planner is going to remember that both the Federation and her neighbors have ready access to both WMDs and delivery systems in the form of starships. Orbital bombardment with photon torpedoes would not be gentle on population centers.
Even without cloaking devices, everyone in this stellar neighborhood could do terrible things to one another if they no longer cared about being able to use conquered real estate.
UbeOne
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The Federation is not the type of polity to utilize something like the Biophage, even as a deterrent. It goes against their values, and it's liable to turn on them anyway.
That's more of a Romulan or Cardassian thing. As for Klingons... I doubt it. They know how to be sneaky, but the Biophage doesn't sound like an honorable method of warfare.
Besides, starships are already WMDs on their own.
That's more of a Romulan or Cardassian thing. As for Klingons... I doubt it. They know how to be sneaky, but the Biophage doesn't sound like an honorable method of warfare.
Besides, starships are already WMDs on their own.