Yeah. If we can't improve relations with them, it's reassuring that nobody else can either. And given that the Cardassians explore in smaller ships than we do, there's a fair chance of the Ittick-Ka deciding to go for the jugular if they see one.

It'll be nice to force the Cardassians to put up with the kind of demented nonsense we've been dealing with from them- "oh, we don't want to negotiate with you if we don't have the upper hand!" :D

So maybe the 20pp was wasted and maybe it wasn't, but at least we learned some good news (the Ittick-ka are so obnoxious nobody's going to recruit them any time soon), and it was a reasonable thing to do.
 
I suspect they'll be too busy fighting all their neighbors at once to be much of a threat to us specifically. Or maybe they'll start harassing the Dawiar or Lecarre and force the Cardassians to do something.
 
So here is a prelim outline for the civilian ship spreadsheet, To Boldly Go Civilian Ships
Currently I have only inputted Amarkia, Apiata and Andoria (ships under construction has not been added yet). Please let me know if you want any layout revisions before I do the rest of the races. I will get to those changes tomorrow.
 
Hey Neighbors! You know that cruiser that we just launched. the one that you are probably at least a little afraid of because its just better than everything else in its weight class? yea. between Starfleet and the Federation member fleets, we just laid down 13 more. now ain't that just fantastic!
 
I'm just saying, there are parallels...
Not really, well unless you step in and GM Fiat it. High Science is the role the Kepler was designed for, high Presence comes naturally since some of the best Science give good Presence scores. Medium Shields comes from the fact that shields are on a completely different frame then Sci/Pres so there is no disadvantage to taking it. Combat 3 comes from the fact it's incredibly difficult to get below Combat 2, as in I've had no weapons and C2 on a design, and easy as cake to get Combat 3.

Dropping down to a smaller hull size does reduce Combat, Presence, and Shields but it reduces Science by an equal amount so it's still just as generalist just a tad cheaper. Basically unlike the video there isn't any disadvantage to making stats outside it's direct mission high.
 
"Hey, you're bigger and stronger then us so we're not going to talk to you until we're stronger."
"What? Sorry I was looking at my dozen new cruisers. You were saying?"
"..."
 
The Romulans built a new cruiser, and then started .. I think it was 5 or 6 more - limit on crew/resources/available berths/strategy/other?

The Klingons are prototyping a new cruiser or capital design - how many will they lay down?

Do the Cardassians have a new design in the works? If they don't, they logically should be looking at doing one soon. How many can they build?

For that matter, how many Jalduns can they build in the same time period that we are building 13 Rennies while still keeping up Excelsior production.

(And if the winning vote had of been the 6 Rennie plan, then it would be 15 ....)

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We do have to remember, we only get direct control of 5 out of the 14 Rennies built/under construction under normal situations. The other 9 are out of our hands unless there is a State of Emergency - and we really don't want those ...
 
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I wonder if the new Cardassian ship (they've got to be working on one) will be a new cruiser family to replace the Jaldun/Kaldar duo, or a new battleship to replace the little-used Lorgot? Probably the former, but given their Combined Arms doctrine I wouldn't be too surprised if they wanted to start making more capital ships.

The Romulans probably see the Daljerra as being more or less equal with the Renaissance. Rennie has slightly higher combat stats, but the Dalj can cloak. They likely expected as much from the Federation, though the number of rennies we're building may throw them for a loop.

We still know nothing about the new Klingon battleship, except that it will probably be very tanky like its Vor'cha and Neg'var successors. Since its a capital ship though, it'll probably be a closer parallel to the Excelsior or Ambassador than the Rennie.
 
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You begin to outline a few suggestions and Jorlyth nods along slowly. At the end her lips are pressed thinly, but she is still nodding. "Well, that's possible... The Hawks won't like it, and I suspect the Developers will be no great fans either. They'd want to handle things in-house. It may come down to what we can offer the Pacifists and Mercantilists."

[Options to develop a Council-level approach to the Yrillians will be presented during a 2314.Q2.M2 Council Sessions post]

That...doesn't bode well. All the previous deals had an element of enthusiasm. Not so much this time.

Ittick-ka - Rejected, FDS unable to make meaningful contact.

Federation Diplomatic Service commencing an assessment of future prospects with the Ittick-ka. Current belief is that the Ittick-ka will refuse overtures from any other powers where it does not hold the upper hand. This is also believed to include the Cardassians, or Klingons. Chance of violent results if something cannot be done to change Ittick-ka attitudes is high.
Council Sessions Preparing

The Council will be holding a special session with the FDS to examine the failings of the attempted diplomatic outreach to the Ittick-ka. Some Starfleet officers will be requested to provide recorded testimony of encounters with the Ittick-ka, but this will occur mainly between Council and FDS.

Also not promising. Hopefully FDS will get something out of this, or else this was basically a 20pp mini intel report on Ittick-ka foreign attitudes.

One Constitution-B (NCC-1752) at Lor'Vela OCF is being crewed this quarter
3 Officer, 4 Enlisted, 4 Technician

The last Connie-B that we'll ever build.

The second-to-last Connie-B that'll ever be built (I think) - last is the Vulcan NCC-1753 due in 2316.

Ships Commenced in 2314.Q2:

Andor - 1 Renaissance (NCC-2613)
Vulcan - 1 Renaissance (NCC-2612)
Tellar - 3 Renaissance (NCC-2609, 2610, 2611)
Human - 3 Renaissance (NCC-2606, 2607, 2608)
Betazed - 1 Renaissance (NCC-2614)

lolwut

Can they actually afford that???
 
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