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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Starfleet Ship Design Bureau, Refit ("To Boldly Go...")
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[X] [COUNCIL] Plan Intelligence, Education, Diplomacy and Industrial Expansion
-[X] Request Academy Development, 35pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
-[X] Request Science Academy Development, 15pp (Gain +1 Techs throughput)
-[X] Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 20pp [pure medical, possible background: split Starfleet Medical Command research into two divisions, Medical Equipment (existing team) and Experimental Treatments (new team)]
-[X] Request Mining Colony at Ulen Gao VII, 8pp (4 turns, gain +20 (25) br/year)
-[X] Request Mining Colony at Peco Sigma, 8pp (4 turns, gain +10 (20) sr/year)
-[X] Request Mining Colony at Castor IV-2, 8pp (4 turns, gain +20 (30) sr/year)
-[X] Request new Starbase I [Betazed] (15+12) * 0.75 = 20.25pp
-[X] Request new Shipyard at Betazed, 18pp (8 turns, 2 1mt Berths)
-[X] Request new Shipyard at Apinae , 33pp, (12 turns, 1 3mt Berth, 1 1mt Berth)
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp [Yrillians]
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp [Ittick-ka]
-[X] Deploy Improved Listening Posts to a Border Zone to gain a 25% chance of generating +1 Intel report for powers on that border. (Cardassian Border Zone), 20pp
-[X] Reorganise a Starfleet Command from a Rear Admiral position to a Vice Admiral position: 20pp for Starfleet Intelligence

Total = 245.25 pp.

[X][FACTION] Approach the Expansionists. Doubtless they have heard of pro-Cardassian leanings among the Yrillians that would have them siding with the Sydraxians in the event of a general war. The Council has also given frequent reminders of how squeezed Starfleet is for transports in its auxiliary fleet. Why not solve one problem with another? Yrillians are famous for building more ships than they strictly need. We would like to begin an outreach program by hiring Yrillian cargo ships and freighters to alleviate our temporary shipping crunch. Depending on availability, this could be extended to include other auxiliary ship work where the Federation's expansion has left us straining. The goal is to alleviate that strain and simultaneously to show ordinary Yrillian work gangs how working with the Federation aligns with their interests, thus increasing pro-Federation sentiment among the Yrillians at large.

[X][NAME] Lasieth Craft Yards
 
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Hm... So @Briefvoice... Any thoughts or comments on the overall reasoning behind some of your choices? It looks like we couldn't shake loose the political will for any more mining colonies, which is a pity but we'll buy them up as fast as we can, I'm sure. We found a LOT of potential colony sites this year.

Aside from that it looks a lot like what I was drafting; we may want to review the "new tech team" to be "medical/something" instead of "pure medical," but that's a matter for further discussion.

There clearly isn't enough political will to have more than two diplomatic pushes going right now, and I suppose that both the Ittick-ka and the Yrillians are higher priority than, for example, the Dawiar or the Ked Paddah.

[I cannot help but imagine the Ittick-Ka as our version of the Sheliak]

[Actually there are a lot more differences than similarities now that I think about it]
 
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Simon_Jester said:
There clearly isn't enough political will to have more than two diplomatic pushes going right now, and I suppose that both the Ittick-ka and the Yrillians are higher priority than, for example, the Dawiar or the Ked Paddah.
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If we're not going to be making a political deal with an eye towards mediating the Ked Paddah/Licori conflict then I'd like to push the Ked Paddah at least. The Ittick-ka are seemingly quite distant...
 
aeqnai said:
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You know, this makes me wonder what will happen with the cardassian listening post within the strait now being within Federation territory? Also means that the Dawiar are now completely reliant on the Lecarre for all imports and exports, and even then they would have to pass by Corvo to get there. How long till the dwarves switch sides?
 
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Quietly packed up and abandoned, probably.

@Glassware, unless I'm badly mistaken, if we don't improve our relations with the Ittick-Ka very soon we're likely to wind up with them becoming a Cardassian affiliate within about five minutes of the time the Cardassians first discover them. And the rise of a new Cardassian affiliate on our rimward flank would be a very bad thing indeed.

Establishing normal diplomatic relations with these guys and not ignoring them is absolutely critical. If we ignore them the way we ignored the Sydraxians and the Dawiar, we are going to regret it five years down the line.
 
I think Federation lacks both civilian Intelligence agency and Federal law enforcement. Can we push for those? Because Starfleet trying to fulfill Military, Law enforcement, Intelligence, Exploration, Science and Economy all at once is just getting silly.

And it is not like we are staying away diplomacy either. So lessening of the burden a bit might be useful.
 
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Simon_Jester said:
Quietly packed up and abandoned, probably.

@Glassware, unless I'm badly mistaken, if we don't improve our relations with the Ittick-Ka very soon we're likely to wind up with them becoming a Cardassian affiliate within about five minutes of the time the Cardassians first discover them. And the rise of a new Cardassian affiliate on our rimward flank would be a very bad thing indeed.

Establishing normal diplomatic relations with these guys and not ignoring them is absolutely critical. If we ignore them the way we ignored the Sydraxians and the Dawiar, we are going to regret it five years down the line.
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Fair enough. I'll just support mediating the war with a deal, then:

[X][COUNCIL] Plan Intelligence, Education, Diplomacy and Industrial Expansion
[X][FACTION] Approach the Pacifists about a focused diplomatic initiative with the intent of mediating the Ked Paddah/Licori war to prevent needless loss of life.
 
I continue to disagree with Briefvoice's phrasing of the faction vote, so here is an alternative. The same thing but focuses on relations rather than our auxiliary problems, which sounds farcical to me the way it's presented. We should not be asking one of our Council factions to believe that a semi-hostile power is the solution to our expansion issues.

[X][FACTION] Approach the Expansionists. Doubtless they have heard of pro-Cardassian leanings among some Yrillians that would have them siding with the Sydraxians in the event of a general war. We would like to begin an outreach program to show ordinary Yrillian work gangs how working with the Federation aligns with their interests. Start perhaps by hiring Yrillian cargo, which would also help our shipping crunch, but other basic ideas include survey or prospecting work, space construction, exchange of goods, sponsoring entertainment tours, or hiring shipyards for civilian projects. Any sort of win-win arrangements we can offer to increase pro-Federation sentiment among the Yrillians at large.
 
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Briefvoice said:
-[X] Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 20pp [pure medical, possible background: split Starfleet Medical Command research into two divisions, Medical Equipment (existing team) and Experimental Treatments (new team)]
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Hmm, why would we not pick a 2nd specialization for our new medical team though?
 
We should probably take all the Mining Colony options.

I'm not sure about the rationale behind building more shipyards, given we're heading for a crew crunch, apparently?
 
AKuz said:
The Romulans meanwhile just shake their heads with a wry smile and go "Yeah, that'll happen sometimes. Don't let it bother you too much"
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Would they though? I mean sure they'd understand that under the Federation's crazy system that is how things go but it doesn't change one simple fact:

This. Has. Never. Happened. Before.

Remember in TBG the Federation started with just four races and continued with just those four for 145 years. It's only in the last decade the number of members has started to climb. That means this is the very first time in the entire 153 year history of the Federation someone outside the core four has been elected President.



....actually now that I've gone and written all this I remember that alien dude from The Undiscovered Country. It would be kinda odd for him to have been president in the TBG Federation but unless @OneirosTheWriter says otherwise that is canon. So I guess this moment isn't as monumental as I'd hoped. :(
 
Night said:
But does this mean they have a tiny human with white hair to stroke on their armrest?
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A monkey.

Or possibly a teacup pig?

Tasoli said:
I think Federation lacks both civilian Intelligence agency and Federal law enforcement. Can we push for those? Because Starfleet intelligence trying to fulfill Military, Law enforcement, Intelligence, Exploration, Science and Economy all at once is just getting silly.

And it is not like are staying away diplomacy either. So lessening of the burden a bit might be usefull
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Honestly, I don't think we want a civilian intelligence agency separate from Starfleet; it'd give them too much power and too much risk of turning into Section 31. Domestic law enforcement would be good, but as the Orion events have shown, at the moment each species has its own law enforcement arm with its own style. There will be pushback against creating an organization with overarching jurisdiction, especially since not all the member species have the same kind of needs when it comes to controlling crime. The Betazoids and Apiata probably have very different kinds of crime problems than the Caitians and the Andorians, for instance.

Glassware said:
Fair enough. I'll just support mediating the war with a deal, then...

[][FACTION] Approach the Pacifists about a focused diplomatic initiative with the intent of mediating the Ked Paddah/Licori war to prevent needless loss of life.
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The FDS is clearly already building up towards this (which is why we're getting reports from their ambassador on the spot). The trick is that if we try to push that diplomacy right now, we risk doing so on the basis of insufficient information. Even the last few months have revealed several things about the nature of the conflict that we didn't fully appreciate before, and that the Licori had given us a rather biased and rosy version of their side of the story.

I think we need a little more time to make the facts clear, before we try to bring the weight of the Council down on top of the diplomatic teams already working on the scene.

Plus, the Yrillian deal is important and promises to kill two birds with one stone- more ties with Yrillians and therefore less risk of them uniting against us in the future, and also fewer problems for our domestic economy.
 
[X][FACTION] Approach the Pacifists about designing a cloak-capable diplomatic vessel for diplomacy with Cardassian clients.
 
So it looks like the shipyards and berths dropped by 2pp, did not notice any other changes. THough the new listening post project is awesome and something we want to try to get at least one per snakepit. Next one should be SBZ, then KBZ (since we have a romulan report_ with RBZ being last. Going with @Briefvoice vote, I just wish we had one more PP to get another mining colony. And I would have liked 3 diplo pushes but the new border zone project is definitely worth only doing 2 pushes.

[X] [COUNCIL] Plan Intelligence, Education, Diplomacy and Industrial Expansion

[X][FACTION] Approach the Expansionists. Doubtless they have heard of pro-Cardassian leanings among some Yrillians that would have them siding with the Sydraxians in the event of a general war. We would like to begin an outreach program to show ordinary Yrillian work gangs how working with the Federation aligns with their interests. Start perhaps by hiring Yrillian cargo, which would also help our shipping crunch, but other basic ideas include survey or prospecting work, space construction, exchange of goods, sponsoring entertainment tours, or hiring shipyards for civilian projects. Any sort of win-win arrangements we can offer to increase pro-Federation sentiment among the Yrillians at large.

[X][NAME] Lasieth Craft Yards
 
Glassware said:
If we're not going to be making a political deal with an eye towards mediating the Ked Paddah/Licori conflict then I'd like to push the Ked Paddah at least. The Ittick-ka are seemingly quite distant...
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The FDS is already working on mediating the Ked Paddah/Licori conflict. We've been getting regular reports about it.

Simon_Jester said:
Hm... So @Briefvoice... Any thoughts or comments on the overall reasoning behind some of your choices? It looks like we couldn't shake loose the political will for any more mining colonies, which is a pity but we'll buy them up as fast as we can, I'm sure. We found a LOT of potential colony sites this year.

Aside from that it looks a lot like what I was drafting; we may want to review the "new tech team" to be "medical/something" instead of "pure medical," but that's a matter for further discussion.
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Sure! A lot of this we've been discussing in the thread for ages.

1. We need as many personnel as we can get, so the academy developments are no-brainers.
2. I could only afford three mining colonies with everything else, and I picked the two that generate special resources and the Ulen Gao mine, which we hope will lead to more relationship-boosting encounters with the Laio.
3. We promised the Betazoids a starbase, so that's just carrying throguh on a committment.
4. The Betazoid shipyard is the cheapest way to get some new 1mt berths, which we'd like to have for repairs, refits, amd ptoentially building auxiliary ships there.
5. We have talked about the need to get a new Excelsior berth out near the Cardassian border, where it'll be easily available for repairs. Hence Apinae.
6. Doubling down on Yrillian diplomacy with the council deal in an attempt to get them firmly neutral.
7. Ittick-ka need to be kept out of Cardassian hands.
8. Who doesn't want a free Intelligence report? I want a free intelligence report!
9. Making Starfleet Intelligence a Vice Admiral post makes it 'stronger' and provides more resource. We will get a chance to keep Linderly, with an even stronger bonus, or there might be another candidate with a really kickass bonus. Also further relieves 'up or out' pressure.
 
UberJJK said:
Would they though? I mean sure they'd understand that under the Federation's crazy system that is how things go but it doesn't change one simple fact:

This. Has. Never. Happened. Before.

Remember in TBG the Federation started with just four races and continued with just those four for 145 years. It's only in the last decade the number of members has started to climb. That means this is the very first time in the entire 153 year history of the Federation someone outside the core four has been elected President.



....actually now that I've gone and written all this I remember that alien dude from The Undiscovered Country. It would be kinda odd for him to have been president in the TBG Federation but unless @OneirosTheWriter says otherwise that is canon. So I guess this moment isn't as monumental as I'd hoped. :(
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I meant that the Romulans are used to the Federation doing weird and random stuff that runs on the Federation's own naive internal logic.
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
I continue to disagree with Briefvoice's phrasing of the faction vote, so here is an alternative. The same thing but focuses on relations rather than our auxiliary problems, which sounds farcical to me the way it's presented. We should not be asking one of our Council factions to believe that a semi-hostile power is the solution to our expansion issues.

[X][FACTION] Approach the Expansionists. Doubtless they have heard of pro-Cardassian leanings among some Yrillians that would have them siding with the Sydraxians in the event of a general war. We would like to begin an outreach program to show ordinary Yrillian work gangs how working with the Federation aligns with their interests. Start perhaps by hiring Yrillian cargo, which would also help our shipping crunch, but other basic ideas include survey or prospecting work, space construction, exchange of goods, sponsoring entertainment tours, or hiring shipyards for civilian projects. Any sort of win-win arrangements we can offer to increase pro-Federation sentiment among the Yrillians at large.
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You could have used nicer language than "farcical". I actually did alter things to include elements of your version, which you apparently didn't even notice. However I'm not backing down on my version. I believe it's critical that this is addressing a real problem in our auxiliary shipping, not a fake need made to simply for diplomatic purposes. If you find the idea that this could be a genuine solution to be farcical, then you shouldn't vote for it at all, even with altered language.
 
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