Do you really want to be responsible for tracking that in game? Or would you rather just let @OneirosTheWriter track it and let him tell us when we need to vote on something related to auxiliaries?

Dead serious question. Like, would it make the game more enjoyable for you if we had the responsibility of proactively deciding that there needs to be more auxiliary space and coming to the QM with it instead of waiting for him to come to us?

Yeah in my eyes that is exactly the sort of question to should be answered by the players/us. It is exactly the sort of large scale, strategy level question that is what drew me to this quest in the first place.

I mean if we go with you idea of him only asking if we need I honestly don't see why there should be a vote about it since the answer seems clear to me. In that case he should just divide that part of the game from the Starfleet and remove it completely from our control (which I would also be okay with)
 
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That's not actually answering my question. Do you as a player want to be responsible for making that decision? I personally feel it's too much in the weeds. If there needs to be more auxiliary spaces, I want the QM to come to us with a clear vote to make, and if not I don't want to have to worry about it. I don't want to have to nag him and try to do the equivalent of write-in votes if they aren't on offer as part of the standard options.
Then the QM needs to do that because we've getting poked over and over IC with no votes to address it.
 
Yeah in my eyes that is exactly the sort of question to should be answered by the players/us. It is exactly the sort of large scale, strategy level question that is what drew me to this quest.

I mean if we go with you idea of him only asking if we need I honestly don't see why there should be a vote about it since the answer seems clear to me. In that cases heute should just divide that from the Starfleet and removed it completely from our control (which I would also be okay with)
Well, it is mostly divided.

Logistics, Medical, and Engineering have their own separate budget. And they also will have their own shared dedicated yard.
 
That's not actually answering my question. Do you as a player want to be responsible for making that decision? I personally feel it's too much in the weeds. If there needs to be more auxiliary spaces, I want the QM to come to us with a clear vote to make, and if not I don't want to have to worry about it. I don't want to have to nag him and try to do the equivalent of write-in votes if they aren't on offer as part of the standard options.

Depends on the level of abstraction. If we have to understand Oneiros' spreadsheet of economic doom*, then no. If it's something like Federation-wide or sector quotas of each type of auxiliary, then it's just an extension of the shipbuild planning + garrison requirements + fleet distribution gameplay mechanics, and I'd be fine with that.

* Seriously, if you've ever seen it, it's crazy. Different types of cargo even distinguishing between BR/SR and BR/SR ore, modeling speed and travel times, demand and supply, race-specific economic/cargo aspects...
 
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No. of Votes: 12
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No. of Votes: 6
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No. of Votes: 2

Not seeing a plan with freighters or cargo ships. I'll make my own, with blackjack and hookers!

Or not. That Six Renaissance plan runs headlong into our crew shortage.

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[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet

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B) There are concerns over security. Civilian warp cores are low powered, and are very locked down. Fleet-grade cores are almost literally contained antimatter. Civilian-grade shipwrights are not qualified for Fleet-spec work.

Our auxiliary yards will be building our Rennie-based hospital ships and whatever Engineering replacements we eventually build; they will handle M/AM warp cores and fleet-grade ship construction. There is no way around this fact. This concern is garbage; it's going to happen and they're going to be qualified or they wouldn't be doing it.
 
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On the build plan: I'd really love to vote for the 6 Renaissance plan. It's just that that's the riskiest plan, because unlike SR shortages, there's not even a political way to get more standard crew immediately. Well, we could mothball a Constellation, but with our shortage of hulls, I'm very leery of doing that in the next two years. I also expect next year to have more than the 1/1/1 crew casualties modeled in the shipbuild plan sheet.

We have some leeway to mothball a Constellation if necessary.

Speaking of which, I've got a deployment question. Which are people more worried about, the Cardassian Border Zone or the Sydraxian Border Zone?

If you had a choice of:

Deployment A
CBZ - 1 Excelsior, 1 Connie-B, 1 veteran Oberth (T'Mir)
SBZ - 1 Connie-B, 1 Centaur-A

Deployment B
CBZ - 1 Excelsior, 1 Centaur-A, 1 veteran Oberth (T'Mir)
SBZ - 2 Connie-Bs

...or some combination thereof, which would you pick? I'm basically trying to send all the Miranda-As to the GBZ, barring one in Vulcan.
 
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Not seeing a plan with freighters or cargo ships. I'll make my own, with blackjack and hookers!

That would be because freighters and cargo ships are not under our mandate. That may change, but for the moment we don't have that option. Our budget is for garrison and exploration ships. Auxiliary ships have their own budgets and available crew, which we don't have control over.
 
We have some leeway to mothball a Constellation if necessary.

Speaking of which, I've got a deployment question. Which are people more worried about, the Cardassian Border Zone or the Sydraxian Border Zone?

If you had a choice of:

Deployment A
CBZ - 1 Excelsior, 1 Connie-B, 1 veteran Oberth (T'Mir)
SBZ - 1 Connie-B, 1 Centaur-A

Deployment B
CBZ - 1 Excelsior, 1 Centaur-A, 1 veteran Oberth (T'Mir)
SBZ - 2 Connie-Bs

...or some combination thereof, which would you pick? I'm basically trying to send all the Miranda-As to the GBZ, barring one in Vulcan.
Excelsior and Connie-B in in one, Connie-B, Centaur-A and T'Mir in the other. slightly more worried about the SBZ because the Sydraxians just might be sore losers and try to get back at us elsewhere.
 
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[X][NAME1] USS Voshev
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[X][NAME2] USS Rru'adorr
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][BUILD] 2314 6 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits

Speaking of which, I've got a deployment question. Which are people more worried about, the Cardassian Border Zone or the Sydraxian Border Zone?

I'd personally send them to the SBZ. If for no other reason than that way we also keep eyes on the Yrillians and have some reserve of ships closer to the Federation core. Let's face it, right now if we were to say, run into a single Biophage shuttle over by Machado then by the time we got sufficient reinforcements down there to fight the thing it'd already be merrily feasting on Ord Grind Duk.
 
I'd personally send them to the SBZ. If for no other reason than that way we also keep eyes on the Yrillians and have some reserve of ships closer to the Federation core. Let's face it, right now if we were to say, run into a single Biophage shuttle over by Machado then by the time we got sufficient reinforcements down there to fight the thing it'd already be merrily feasting on Ord Grind Duk.

I don't know what you mean by "send them". Are you proposing?

Deployment
CBZ - 1 Excelsior, 1 veteran Oberth (T'Mir)
SBZ - 2 Connie-Bs, 1 Centaur-A
 
I meant something along the lines of Deployment B, yes, or that.
 
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[16][BUILD] 2314 6 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
[7][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
[2][BUILD] 2314 3 Centaur-A, 4 Renaissance, two Miranda refits


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[20][NAME1] Voshev
[2][NAME1] USS Kom Zerf
[1][NAME1] Epona
[1][NAME1] Endeavour
[1][NAME1] Surranon


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[16][NAME2] Rru'adorr
[9][NAME2] Turlough

Total No. of Voters: 32
 
I'd honestly rather have an Excelsior in the SBZ than many other places we deploy one. CBZ is probably the exception to that though. Maybe we can draw a GBZ Excelsior and give Ainsworth more smaller ships?
 
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