Added something to my earlier post that I meant to include but forgot. Addition in bold.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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I don't like to think of other postings as "lesser" than EC captain postings. To be sure it's a high-prestige, stressful job, but that doesn't mean other jobs are less important.
I also note that while we've never had a captain outright glad to go, some of them seem to acknowledge how stressful the position is. It's a hard job and it wears. 5 years of a lot and 10 years is an incredible amount of pressure on anyone. Frankly I think it's not surprising that a lot of our EC captains seem to develop "quirks" as they get deeper into their missions. You try doing that for years without going a little funny.
I'm still going to be advocating for taking the Courageous out of service for refit to Excelsior-A status at the end of it's 5YM in 2315. That neatly puts off the question of 'replacing McAdams' for a year, and we can see if she still puts her hand up after a year on shore to decompress. It also means the Excelsior-A Courageous will be nearly as good as an Elite old model Excelsior!
I also note that while we've never had a captain outright glad to go, some of them seem to acknowledge how stressful the position is. It's a hard job and it wears. 5 years of a lot and 10 years is an incredible amount of pressure on anyone. Frankly I think it's not surprising that a lot of our EC captains seem to develop "quirks" as they get deeper into their missions. You try doing that for years without going a little funny.
I'm still going to be advocating for taking the Courageous out of service for refit to Excelsior-A status at the end of it's 5YM in 2315. That neatly puts off the question of 'replacing McAdams' for a year, and we can see if she still puts her hand up after a year on shore to decompress. It also means the Excelsior-A Courageous will be nearly as good as an Elite old model Excelsior!
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McAdams, I think, has earned a quiet posting.
The main reasons we brought her aboard on Courageous was that her 'turn' at an Explorer Corps ship had been in effect delayed by about five years, and that we needed a new captain for Courageous who could nurse the ship back to health after the disastrous encounter that ended Ajam's five-year mission. The woman who'd been Eaton's XO during the ship's previous five-year mission seemed like an obvious choice.
She's accomplished that goal now, she's pushing sixty, she's had a colorful and very challenging career (e.g. those Yan-Ro assassins who keep trying to kill her). I think it's time to let her be 'tranquil as still waters' a bit more and 'blurring into action' a bit less.
So as one of McAdams' longest-time and most devoted supporters, I am saying that it would probably be best to find a new captain for Courageous after she receives her post-mission refit/servicing in 2315-6.
Thing is, Eaton is clearly due for promotion to rear admiral (promoted 2306). Thuir isn't (promoted 2311). Thuir belongs in a good commodore slot- like the ones being held by Eaton and T'Lorel right now.
With Uhura vacating the top slot, it seems obvious and logical to move up either Eaton or T'Lorel to replace her, which leaves one vacancy in the ASTF. Removing the other of the two at the same time to send them somewhere else probably isn't a good idea. Not when we're trying to maintain continuity of the command team.
It's one thing to replace the top boss and promote one of her two understudies, slotting a new person in to replace the understudy.
It's a very different thing to replace the top boss, promote one of her two understudies, then send the other understudy off to the other side of the galaxy.
The former is more of a normal progression of things; the latter is a major shakeup.
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pbluekan
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I had no idea Eaton was that spectacular as an officer, let alone candidate. I knew she was good, but thems some stats. Shed be a good one to put there as a replacement for Ainsworth. I do think we can't just up and replace Ainsworth. There needs to be pretext beyond "we think you don't play well with others so we're replacing you with someone clearly your better"
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Maybe we could transfer her to a staff position in Tactical. Or, heck, if she hangs around a few years we could seriously consider making her the vice admiral in charge of Tactical if Sulu gets flagged as our next admiral after Sousa. I don't think Ainsworth is ever likely to reach the top slot, but she's a solid contender for Starfleet Tactical.
lbmaian
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Saavik gaining +1P brings her in line with the newer EC candidates with 2-3 bonuses.
So this could just be a narrative way for Oneiros to bring the current EC captains up to par.
And why Straak, with his now mediocre singular surprise encounter bonus, has been expanding his harem.
So this could just be a narrative way for Oneiros to bring the current EC captains up to par.
And why Straak, with his now mediocre singular surprise encounter bonus, has been expanding his harem.
pbluekan
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It's an idea, but I was hoping save the tactical slot for RAdm. Pathe Lathriss. He's a fairly ideal candidate.
Like I said, we let Ainsworth kick ass, win a big battle, then have a quiet restructuring. I really do think as SF assets attrit we will need the Member fleets to link more closely to keep up the operational tempo.
To use a shitty metaphor, Ainsworth is the sprinter we need now, but we will require someone more suited to long distance later.
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Okay, but I'd like to have somewhere good to move Ainsworth to after we can say "your work here is done, my warrior" or something sort of Klingony like that. 
Lathriss is a political time-bomb in the Operations slot and I'm not sure he'd be much better in Tactical. It's a long way short of fair but I'm not sure we can do anything about it.
How about Personnel?Okay, but I'd like to have somewhere good to move Ainsworth to after we can say "your work here is done, my warrior" or something sort of Klingony like that.
Hopefully something will turn up, but honestly I'm willing to make Ainsworth a little grumpy rather than have her attrit our forces unnecessarily because she can't get the Members to fleet up.
I also don't think this will happen for like, at least half a year.
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How about Personnel?
Hopefully something will turn up, but honestly I'm willing to make Ainsworth a little grumpy rather than have her attrit our forces unnecessarily because she can't get the Members to fleet up.
Well, let's remember a couple of things.
1. The Amarki are stilling sending ships; they're merely operating independently rather than as part of her Task Force.
2. When it comes to future member fleets, we have the option to "yellow light" them and force them to operate as part of Ainsworth's Task Force, with the proviso they'll likely send fewer ships.
Anyway, let's see what the situation looks like in another 4 months or so, at the end of the year, as you said.
pbluekan
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He may be far less of a timebomb in a position he is so obviously suited for, though. At some point we're going to have to bull past the issue of newer members in top slots, at the very least, the Amarki were the first of the newer group, and have proved themselves beyond doubt.Okay, but I'd like to have somewhere good to move Ainsworth to after we can say "your work here is done, my warrior" or something sort of Klingony like that.
Lathriss is a political time-bomb in the Operations slot and I'm not sure he'd be much better in Tactical. It's a long way short of fair but I'm not sure we can do anything about it.
Yeah, Ainsworth's failure to get the Amarki onboard and integrated for an assault on Deva is actually a pretty big flop.
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I dunno. The Apiata seem willing to coordinate with her. I wouldn't write her off just yet.
And we're down one cruiser- but, at least for the short term, so are the Cardassians.
Saratoga, staggering, bleeding from a nasty-looking head wound:
"Y- y- you should shee the othergggh."
[collapses, is towed off to hospital]
That's why we sent her Avandar. Unless the Sydraxians have reinforced Deva IX so hard that it's going to cripple their overall fleet posture elsewhere in their space, really gambling on not needing warships anywhere else... their defenses are likely to be weaker now than they were at the first battle, assuming Ainsworth strikes quickly.
And we're down one cruiser- but, at least for the short term, so are the Cardassians.
Saratoga, staggering, bleeding from a nasty-looking head wound:
"Y- y- you should shee the othergggh."
[collapses, is towed off to hospital]
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Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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Just because they aren't following her orders doesn't mean they can't work together. The Apiata were screening us to ensure the Cardassians couldn't take advantage of our first assault, for example. The Amarki aren't stupid, and if they think Amarki interests are best served by launching a joint assault on Deva, that's probably what they'll do.
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And it's not like the Sydraxians aren't a fairly direct threat to Amarki space.
Historically their raids have been directed further to trailward, but I can imagine the Amarki field commander deciding it's to everyone's advantage to put a few good dents in the Hierarchy's fleets and bases.
Historically their raids have been directed further to trailward, but I can imagine the Amarki field commander deciding it's to everyone's advantage to put a few good dents in the Hierarchy's fleets and bases.
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Avandar just brings her up to her previous fleet strength at which she didn't want to engage both defending ships and the station. The Sydraxi are as capable of dropping everything else as we are, if not more. They can strip the SBZ and their immediate neighbors in the Yrillians and the Gretarians are not a threat to them. They can afford to bring their fleet strength up to the same level at which she can't do both with only Starfleet forces.
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I do wonder if we would have the option (likely with PP cost, or even required as part of a Snakepit) to order the EC to support a single operation in the GBZ and maybe tag the politicos of various member fleets to override their commanders on the spot to join in. It would be a risky move, but 40C of Excelsior punch added to our fleet might be necessary next year to, say, punch out 67 Gabriel. And the truism "the more you use, the fewer you lose" is very applicable to our operations.
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Only if the hierarchy trust the Yrillians that like us won't take pot shots at their shipping
"Never turn your back on a Yrillian." - Unknown Sydraxian, 2317
"Okay Wow that was super racist." - Unknown Yrillian like, two seconds later.
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We can't hire them to do so, and the Yrillians generally want to get paid. And we're not particularly likely to carry out punitive action, whereas the Sydraxi might. More to the point, they could only induce a relatively small number of Yrillians to work for them, even with payment and the like, and they're probably better-liked in Yrillian space then we are; they've been right next to them for a longer time.
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We just blew up or seriously damaged every ship in the Sydraxians' Gabriel squadron, or at least the squadron that was covering their base.
It is vanishingly unlikely that the Sydraxians were able to reinforce to the same level they were at before our first battle at Deva IX, if we catch them before those damaged Kalindraxes are repaired. Even if they did reinforce back to the same level, Ainsworth "only" inflicts another military defeat on them, and destroys several more of their ships. Eventually they're going to run out of expendable ships; they can't afford to burn up their entire navy in the Gabriel Expanse.
Also, this.