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Mbeki is bonkers at diplo. +1 P AND reroll? That's amazing. Surprise bonus is just gravy.

Demora's pretty damn good at diplo as well. Her reroll is generally worse (first contact in fed space is the only time she'll fire and Mbeki doesn't) but she's probably got the best counterintel ability we'll ever see - for Counterintel HUMINT she's running +2 and a reroll. That's better than Nash+Leaniss.

And T'Rinta has evolved to another budget Nash ability. +1 C and L makes Odyssey a lot stronger in war.

In summary, this is generalist diplomancer versus counterintel diplomancer versus battleship captain. If we were not on the brink of war I'd rule T'Rinta out and look between Mbeki and Sulu. We ARE on the brink of war, though.

@OneirosTheWriter
Does Mbeki's Surprise Encounter reroll have anti-ambush uses in wartime?
 
By the way, I said I would do this and I will.

If you vote for T'Rinta I guarantee at least three omakes fleshing out her and her bridge crew. Maybe more, but a minimum of three. I already have ideas for how she behaves on the bridge and some fun crew notes. I'll do one for each of her first three Captain's Logs. Three omakes fleshing out her personality.

Anybody wiling to counter-offer for Mbeki?
 
Quick analysis of the candidates:
Demoru Sulu would be ideal against the Syndicate or Lecarre with her +1 against espionage bonus if her FYM can be geared that way somehow.
Langa Mbeki is the best actual explorer with that surprise encounters re-roll.
T'Rinta would be the best if/when the EC ships have to be pulled into a crisis involving combat (like the one that's potentially brewing up).

@OneirosTheWriter, do any of our existing FYM captains gain any bonuses as well, now that we have captains that have 3 separate bonuses (well, excluding Nash's effective 6 bonuses)?
 
AKuz said:
Ahhhhh.

I didn't think a person could physically live with all this suspense for this long!

> : [

I can't really pick a captain yet... This would be a lot easier choice if we knew weather or not the galaxy is on fire > : P
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Yeah, as nice as it is to be making progress again, shouldn't we know what's happened during the talks by now, IC?

Anyway, T'Rinta has a nice bonus but if she's using it something has gone wrong or we are at war.

On the other hand, as much as I want to give Sulu a command, Mbeki's diplomacy bonus seems like it would be more useful since it reads like it applies to all diplomacy rolls other than first contact ones, which makes it beat the pants off of Sulu's which is limited to federation space, unless of course I've miss read something here.

Next, re-roll on surprise encounters sounds more useful than +1 to espionage rolls for a explorer corps captain. Sure, we use them for espionage sometimes but that's not what they're there for and I'd rather not use a green crew and captain for such a job if we have a choice in the matter. It applying to counterespionage rolls would be nice but still doesn't change my opinion.

So, I guess I'll go with Mbeki for now unless someone comes up with a very good reason for another choice.

[ ][FYM] Langa Mbeki.

Edit: Vote changed.
 
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Briefvoice said:
@OneirosTheWriter that should not be counted as a winning vote. It was snuck in by a few voters because there was no "no change" option for what I consider to be a pretty wrong-headed rationale.
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More than that, I think this whole priority vote thing needs to be redesigned.

There's just not enough information, and my vote was a bit of a shot in the dark. Arguments for or against it run into ignorance.

It's also too open-ended and lacking structure - there are 300+ possible options, factoring in # members X # options X short/mid/long-term.
 
Briefvoice said:
By the way, I said I would do this and I will.

If you vote for T'Rinta I guarantee at least three omakes fleshing out her and her bridge crew. Maybe more, but a minimum of three. I already have ideas for how she behaves on the bridge and some fun crew notes. I'll do one for each of her first three Captain's Logs. Three omakes fleshing out her personality.

Anybody wiling to counter-offer for Mbeki?
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I can respect this.

[X][FYM] Captain T'Rinta
 
[X][FYM] Captain Vol Chad

Best captain.
1. Current captain of the USS Sappho (which we had a lot of great omakes about)
2. Increase rate of experience gain
3. Tellarite (and we have not had one for an EC captain)
 
Briefvoice said:
[X][FYM] Captain T'Rinta



@OneirosTheWriter that should not be counted as a winning vote. It was snuck in by a few voters because there was no "no change" option for what I consider to be a pretty wrong-headed rationale.
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I'll remove the priority vote from future MWCO votes. I'll still continue to list them because it helps to let you guys know what your member worlds are thinking.

For this one, I'll remove it from the winning votes.
 
I want to vote for Sulu on sheer principle, but that sends some political signals we don't want.

Mbeki, however, has a spectacular new bonus and he was already one of our guys. Not granting him a new seat after he was cleared of wrongdoing sends a message that we still find him responsible. As much as T'Rinta's combat bonus and potential for narrative entertainment is attractive, we're still explorers. I'll go with the explorer captain who saved his crew.

[X][FYM] Langa Mbeki
 
Briefvoice said:
By the way, I said I would do this and I will.

If you vote for T'Rinta I guarantee at least three omakes fleshing out her and her bridge crew. Maybe more, but a minimum of three. I already have ideas for how she behaves on the bridge and some fun crew notes. I'll do one for each of her first three Captain's Logs. Three omakes fleshing out her personality.

Anybody wiling to counter-offer for Mbeki?
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I'll write one omake.

But it'll be 6k words long
 
What's our timeline on current Explorer Corps commands? I'd like to give Mbeki another year on the beach if possible, the loss of your command is a Big Deal. But I also want to give Dremora and The Torpedo Whisperer commands, and Vol Chad, and ahhhhhh!
 
[X][FYM] Langa Mbeki

Remember that Odyssey is staffed by Miracht's old crew. Crew and captain together again.
 
Night said:
What's our timeline on current Explorer Corps commands? I'd like to give Mbeki another year on the beach if possible, the loss of your command is a Big Deal. But I also want to give Dremora and The Torpedo Whisperer commands, and Vol Chad, and ahhhhhh!
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There will be another EC ship next year. In fact, we just voted to crew the Atuin with an EC crew. There will also likely be another EC ship the year after that.
 
I can understand the Mbeki vote and the message it sends in putting him back in. But if that was not a factor I would like people to consider Vol Chad for the next EC ship launching next year. His bonus is that the crew ranks up faster and we have seen the difference that the crew rating gets at passing events. People like Mbeki and Sulu are great but are better at replacing captains on experienced ships. Vol Chad is great for taking a green crew and getting them to the point that they will be known as explorers.

Looking forward, next year we have a new EC ship and also the S'harien finishing its 5 year mission. In 2315 we will have another EC ship and the Courageous finishing. Both of the finishing ships are listed as blooded and would benefit from Captains that give rerolls.

Edit: Looking at it again that may mean S'harien finishes at the end of 2314 which would mean a new captain in 2315 and Courageous finishing in 2315 meaning a new captain of 2316.

So what it looks like is:
2313-Oddessy (current vote-new ship)
2314-Attuin (new ship)
2315-Unnammed (new ship), S'harien (currently Blooded)
2316-Courageous (currently Blooded)
2317-Enterprise (Elite) and Sarek (Veteran) (maybe a new EC ship as well)
 
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Wow, Vol Chad's bonus is potentially stupidly good. Someone check me on this but didn't it require 10 successful events to gain a experience level? If this bonus cuts that down to even something like 7 or 8, it's a great choice. If it's 5 or 6 its easily one of the best bonuses we've yet had as an option.

Each ship can only have up to 4 events per year under normal circumstances so at best it would normally take two and a half years to gain a level, and in reality it would usually take much longer. This bonus would cut it down pretty significantly no matter which case it was.

His +1 hull bonus is completely insignificant however, which is unfortunate. In spite of that however, I'm going to change to him since briefvoice just reminded us that we have more EC ships coming out that we can stick the others on.

[X][FYM] Captain Vol Chad
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
A talented communicator and scientist, who survived the loss of the Miracht. Gain +1 Presence, re-roll non-First Contact Diplomacy, re-roll on Surprise Encounters.
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Holy shit.

OneirosTheWriter said:
After running a ship with one of the lowest rates of mental health incident reports and successful events, Vol Chad has made it onto the Panel. Increase rate of crew experience gain, +1 H.
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This is good too.
 
Kaze said:
Wow, Vol Chad's bonus is potentially stupidly good. Someone check me on this but didn't it require 10 successful events to gain a experience level? If this bonus cuts that down to even something like 7 or 8, it's a great choice. If it's 5 or 6 its easily one of the best bonuses we've yet had as an option.

Each ship can only have up to 4 events per year under normal circumstances so at best it would normally take two and a half years to gain a level, and in reality it would usually take much longer. This bonus would cut it down pretty significantly no matter which case it was.

His +1 hull bonus is completely insignificant however, which is unfortunate. In spite of that however, I'm going to change to him since briefvoice just reminded us that we have more EC ships coming out that we can stick the others on.

[X][FYM] Captain Vol Chad
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8 events to go from green to bloodied, now 7 thanks to a tech we researched. But even cutting 1 or 2 of that means we get those bonuses sooner. But yeah Vol Chad is the trainer captain. Best case we get someone like him to rotate onto non-Elite ships to get them to Elite and then put the captains with the static bonuses and rerolls on them during the next 5 year mission. Also Vol Chad is the Sappho captain which is a fun ship.
 
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