[X] Plan Industry, Recruitment and Diplomacy

It's entirely possible that we'll butterfly Q's asshole "toss the Enterprise right where it'll inform an extinction-level threat about the Federation" shenanigans somehow.
Having recently re-watched that episode Picard honestly deserved getting slapped down. He was being incredibly arrogant, with a good dash of raw stupidity, in his dismissal of Q.

Of course the side effect of the whole situation, unleashing the Borg upon the Federation, is beyond acceptable but Q is kinda infamous for not caring about the side effects of things.
 
Having recently re-watched that episode Picard honestly deserved getting slapped down. He was being incredibly arrogant, with a good dash of raw stupidity, in his dismissal of Q.

Of course the side effect of the whole situation, unleashing the Borg upon the Federation, is beyond acceptable but Q is kinda infamous for not caring about the side effects of things.
Good thing our Picard won't be Season 1 Jackass Picard :D
 
[X] Plan Industry, Recruitment and Diplomacy

Also, is it possible to expand berths?
Even if it is it's probably cheaper to build a large berth than to expand a small one and build a new small berth as replacement. We'll still want some small berths because they are perfectly fine for some ship types, just a smaller proportion than now.
 
Even if it is it's probably cheaper to build a large berth than to expand a small one and build a new small berth as replacement. We'll still want some small berths because they are perfectly fine for some ship types, just a smaller proportion than now.
Fair enough.

Still, I'm expecting some size creep, so it would be nice to expand our small berths to handle the same proportion.
 
It's entirely possible that we'll butterfly Q's asshole "toss the Enterprise right where it'll inform an extinction-level threat about the Federation" shenanigans somehow.

Wouldnt we have done so already? The beast is even worse than the borg. The whole point of that escapade is that Q wanted to remove the naievity from their idealism. Thats not really something needed here.
 
Omake - Starfleet Hiring Practices - Katsuragi
Just a quick omake I had to throw together after getting a laugh out of some earlier discussion.

To say that starfleet intelligence hadn't done a particularly good job in the crisis would be both underplaying it and being overly harsh depending on the viewpoint one used. The end result, however, was that professionally and publicly some degree of accounting needed to be held.

A slight frown crossed you face as you looked over the options available for replacement. You'd always had a certain degree of distaste for intelligence types, even as you had done a brief tour in the department to get a feel for it. You knew that it was an unfair assessment but it just seemed to attract a certain kind of person that sent shivers down your spine more often than other departments did.

The first two candidates were pretty much perfect as far as the position went. Long service histories dealing in intelligence matters. One was the more typical variety, having spent most of their carrier behind a desk. Keen mind for data analysis and knowing where to maneuver resources to get results. Stereotypical Vulkan, you mused to yourself.

The second candidate was more like watching one of those old spy videos from the 20th century. Once you had the clearance to get past all the redacted areas of the service record, at any rate. Enough action and undercover work to make ka'Sharren blush if you were being honest about the situation. Fitting that they shared a race, you supposed.

It was the final canidate that drew your eye more than the other two. She didn't have a history directly working for star fleet intelligence but that likely drew you more to the application given your gut distaste for SI types. By all accounts, she was a self made woman. An orphan that grew up on the streets of a human colony. Managed to put together a network of children to gather little pieces of information here and there to give herself an advantage in life. Spent a few decades of building up and visiting various races planets and doing the same thing. Seemed to be something of an moral type having foiled various shady situations with her network.

She vanished for near a decade before she was picked up on Earth for vagrancy, of all things. Local intelligence suspects she was in the process of setting up a network here on Earth and are still combing through Starfleet to make sure she didn't get her hooks in at all.

It's a bit unconventional, but you could get her a pardon and recruit her to lend her talents to Starfleet. Yes, you think this might be the best option.

.....................

"How's it look?"

"Hm? Oh, yeah. The male Andorian and Vulkan candidates are by far the best qualified candidates we've got to take over. Whoever gets picked."

There was a chuckle from the first. "And the third "canidate?"

The second laughed as well. "Oh, the boys in intelligence had a fun time coming up with that. Found a hobo chick we're working on getting sorted back into society. Made up a nonsensical background and credentials for her. The admiral should get a good laugh out of it given the criticism that's been tossed towards the department for previous hiring practices."

At that moment, a third officer rounded the corner, ashen face. "We've got to doctor some documents fast!"

"Hm?"

"Your fucking prank! Three guesses on how we're screwed, and the first two don't count."

The two original hallway goers exchanged looks. "You're kidding me, right?"

The ashen face man just glared. "Do I look like I'm kidding? We've got to make sure those documents are ironclad, get our new "Head of intelligence" up to speed, and pray to the great Voyager probe it never comes to light or being out of a job and SI being a laughingstock will be the least of our concerns."
 
Fair enough.

Still, I'm expecting some size creep, so it would be nice to expand our small berths to handle the same proportion.
Escorts are defined as scale <= 3, which corresponds to 900 t. So long as we are building escorts at all we will always have a use for 1m t berths. We'll just exclusively build larger berths during expansions and the proportion of small berths will fall naturally. Since overall fleet size will grow that should mean the number of small berths stays around the useful level. If we occasionally build/repair an escort at a larger berth or a higher share of the small berths is idle that's not a tragedy either.
 
Escorts are defined as scale <= 3, which corresponds to 900 t. So long as we are building escorts at all we will always have a use for 1m t berths. We'll just exclusively build larger berths during expansions and the proportion of small berths will fall naturally. Since overall fleet size will grow that should mean the number of small berths stays around the useful level. If we occasionally build/repair an escort at a larger berth or a higher share of the small berths is idle that's not a tragedy either.

We should probably end up with each Member world with at least one Explorer berth, and on 1mt
 
We should probably end up with each Member world with at least one Explorer berth, and on 1mt
Eh, the 2.5 mt ones can be used for smaller ships later, when explorers start to be too large for them. I don't think it makes sense to throw resources at the 1m t berth issue either way. They are less useful than the large ones, enough so that building them specifically doesn't make much sense, but not so much that trying to get rid of them makes sense either. Just keep the ones we have, the ones that come as a side effect of shipyard projects like UP now, and the ones we inherit from accessions. I don't think any planet will be upset over only getting to build glorious explorers.
 
If The Beast was worse than the Borg, we'd have lost. They may have been terrifying, but they weren't more dangerous.
In and of itself, The Beast >> The Borg. Thing is, the Borg come with a few millennia, I think, of Prep Time. The Beast on the other hand only showed up yesterday, relatively speaking.
Of course the side effect of the whole situation, unleashing the Borg upon the Federation, is beyond acceptable but Q is kinda infamous for not caring about the side effects of things.
Mmm, I don't know, because the result of the side effect had the Federation prepping for the Dominion war. Sounds like something Q would quite happily arrange.
 
If The Beast was worse than the Borg, we'd have lost. They may have been terrifying, but they weren't more dangerous.
The beast clearly had the potential to be worse than the Borg, and envisioning a scenario where Starfleet would have been utterly hopeless against it doesn't require much fantasy at all, so it should be enough to inhibit such a Starfleet arrogance from forming. I think that's what @SuperSonicSound meant.
 
The beast clearly had the potential to be worse than the Borg, and envisioning a scenario where Starfleet would have been utterly hopeless against it doesn't require much fantasy at all, so it should be enough to inhibit such a Starfleet arrogance from forming. I think that's what @SuperSonicSound meant.

It is, if the beast had come into contact with the Borg for instance it's highly probable that it would have devoured them.
 
It is, if the beast had come into contact with the Borg for instance it's highly probable that it would have devoured them.
The Biophage just wants to eat you. Unlike the Borg, the Biophage doesn't care about ideologically purity of being a singular intelligence spanning an entire civilization. It is prefectly fine at spawning mutate offspring and such as long as it spread's itself.
 
Timely reminder that the prelude to Best of Both Worlds involved the Borg quietly assimilating outposts in exactly the place the Beast ravaged just now.

Because that's not worrying at all.
 
EDIT: Never mind.

Uh, this is akward. I just noticed my plan is half a point over the budget (misread something before). And there is nothing that wouldn't really hurt to cut out...
:oops:

@OneirosTheWriter, could I maybe get half a pp as reward for the maps or something?
 
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