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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Starfleet Ship Design Bureau, Refit ("To Boldly Go...")
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tryrar said:
Hey, can we get the name Challorn as the first of the Rennies? It seems like an appropriate honor for a ship performing so well
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Let's name an Ambassador-class after Challorn, or an intermediate long-range explorer, or a warship class. The Oberth class is getting old, and the Intrepid doesn't come until 2370.
 
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2304.Q2 - The Snakepit
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    • 2304.Q2

    When you take your place on the podium it is to the sound of applause. You much prefer it to the skulking whispers and speculation that greeted your arrival at the podium in the aftermath of the USS Cheron bombing and the loss of the Dunwich IV colony. Instead you are now lauded along with your staff for your roles in leading the response to the Biophage. Of course, the applause is never louder than when your first words are, "I am pleased to announce that the State of Emergency in the Romulan Border zone is over."

    The powers harnessed by the State in a crisis are dreadful in their enormity, and their bestowment upon you is the greatest act of trust. There is no greater vulnerability to the tyrant than the moment of emergency, when all look for expedient answers and short-term comfort. None are quite so keenly aware of it as the Federation Council. The act of seeing you renounce your elevated powers is thus cathartic.

    You swear blind that you even see Councillor Stesk smile at you.

    Over a number of days, you spend outrageous amounts of time in Council and Committee meetings, making budgetary claims and requests. The Council is in agreement, the margin for error in Starfleet's capabilities needs to be greater, and resolving that starts with them. To this effect, even before you begin the horse-trading, you are told of a basic, 'free', increase in your budget.

    [Federation Council has approved additional 50 br and 30sr per year budget increase]

    Still, with the name Kahurangi the flavour of the month here in Paris, and news services abuzz with images of Vulcan children lining up for their vaccines, you know you can wrangle a lot more than that.

    [ ][COUNCIL] Submit a plan to the Council
    (You may select any number of options, as long as you can pay the Political Will cost. You currently have two-hundred and eighty-nine (289) Political Will to spend.

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    Federation Council Options for 2303.Q2
    • Request expansion of San Francisco Fleet Yards, 15pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times]
    • Request expansion of 40 Eridani A Shipyards, 20pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times]
    • Request Excelsior berth at a shipyard, 30pp (6 turns, gain new 3m t berth)
    • Request new Shipyard in orbit around Andor, 30pp (10 turns, gain new shipyard starting with one 2.5m t berth)
    • Request funding to start Utopia Planitia Shipyards, 135pp (16 turns, gain new shipyard starting with 2 3m t berths, 2 1m t berths, immediate activation of a Light Cruiser research team)
    • Request new Starbase I [Write in Sector] 20pp for home sectors or RBZ, 30pp for KBZ
    • Reduce Militarisation Level 75pp [Increased due to low level]
    • Increase Threat Level 50pp [Increased due to peaceful outlook]
    • Request Ongoing Budget increase 25pp (Roll for success)
    • Request Allocation for an Excelsior's resources, one-off-infusion of an Excelsior's cost, 20pp
    • Request Academy Expansion, 20pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
    • Request Temporary Explorer Corps Recruitment Drive, 20pp, (Gain 2 Officer, 2 Enlisted, 2 Techs, PLUS Convert 2 Officer, 2 Enlisted, 2 Techs from normal service)
    • Request Start of Ambassador class project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 50pp
    • Request Start of Renaissance class project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 35pp
    • Request Start of Custom Explorer project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 60pp
    • Request Start of Custom Cruiser project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 40pp
    • Request Start of Custom Escort project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 55pp
    • Request Refit Program for Miranda class [+1 S,H,L for 20br, 10sr, 1 Year (4 turns)], 6 turns, 45pp
    • Request Refit Program for Constellation class [+1 C,S,D, for 20br, 10sr, 1 Year (4 turns)], 6 turns 45pp
    • Request Refit Program for Centaur class [+1 S,L,P,D for 15br, 15sr, 1 Year (4 turns)], 6 turns 45pp
    • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 30pp
    • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken multiple times]
    • Arrange to have an Old Guard Admiral convinced it is time to retire, 20pp


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    Federation Grading:
    Current Minimum Science = 50 [Now 75]
    Current Maximum Combat = 190 [Now 103]

    (Soft cap, will gain +1 Militarisation per 10 pts over - will increase with Threat Level by 10)

    Minimum Concurrent 5 Year Missions = 3
    Current Militarisation Level = 2
    Current Federation Threat Level = 4

    Council Objectives:
    85 Science by 2311
    2 New Oberths by 2311

    Starfleet Ambitions:
    Operate no fewer than 5 concurrent Five Year Missions by 2311.

    Current Federation Full Members:
    Humans
    Vulcans
    Andorians
    Tellarites

    Current Federation Affiliates:
    Betazoids 265/500 + 1 = 266/500
    Rigellians 186/500 + 14 = 200/500
    Caitians 173/500 + 10 = 183/500
    Amarki 240/500 + 15 = 255/500
    Risa 145/500 + 4 = 149/500
    Caldonians 125/500 + 12 = 137/500
    Gaeni 125/500 + 9 = 134/500

    Currently Known Others Possible Members:
    Orions 95/100
    Yrillians 45/100
    Dawiar 25/100
    Kadeshi 35/100
    Sotaw 35/100

    Major Powers
    Romulans - Unusual (The recent cooperation has caused relations to enter an unknown phase that is still being assessed)
    Klingons - At Peace
     
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    • OneirosTheWriter said:
    By the way, I'd love to hear how people felt about/enjoyed/didn't enjoy the Biophage emergency from a mechanics stand point and a narrative stand point to help me improve things in future.
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    I liked the mechanics, but one issue for me was the disconnect between the normal capabilities and the crisis capabilities. For instance both normal research and crisis research covered the same biophage techs, but somehow our crisis team started out researching at 12 times the normal rate (and ended up at 24 times the normal rate). I think that is a good bit beyond what can be explained by overtime, and it's not like there was no urgency before the state of emergency was called. In future cases either the same topics should not appear in both places, or there should be some multiplier used, like a 10 point normal tech corresponds to a 50 point crisis tech. A crisis tech that costs the same as a normal tech should similarly clearly be a lot narrower.

    I also don't think there should be both an action to expand mobilization level and actions to mobilize assets that are always required, these are a bit too close to the same thing. I can think of 3 possible changes:
    1. Federation council just picks mobilization level based on the state of the crisis, mobilize assets as done here.
    2. Mobilization level is not a thing and we mobilize assets as done here, but the federation council gives us trouble if we mobilize more than they think is appropriate.
    3. We take an action to expand mobilization level and willing teams just become available to be picked automatically without further action. An internal diplomacy action is only needed to recruit reluctant teams.
    Of these I slightly prefer 3.
     
    Wow, that's a TON of pp :o:D

    We've got way more than enough to start on Utopia Planitia and convince several old guard Admirals to retire :)
     
    Not final, does this include everything we need?

    [X] Plan Industry, Recruitment and Diplomacy
    -Shipyard Expansions:
    --Request new Shipyard in orbit around Andor, 30pp (10 turns, gain new shipyard starting with one 2.5m t berth)
    --Request Excelsior berth at 40 Eridiani, 30pp (6 turns, gain new 3m t berth)
    --Request funding to start Utopia Planitia Shipyards, 135pp (16 turns, gain new shipyard starting with 2 3m t berths, 2 1m t berths, immediate activation of a Light Cruiser research team)
    -(total 195 * 0.9 = 175.5 pp)
    -Request Ongoing Budget increase 25pp (Roll for success)
    -Request Academy Expansion, 20pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
    -Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 30pp [doctrine]
    -Request focused Diplomacy on Orions, 10pp
    -Request focused Diplomacy on Amarki, 10pp
    -Request focused Diplomacy on Betazoids, 10pp


    Building/expanding shipyards at the non-human core worlds (remember we are still in the process of building one at Tellar Prime as well) should help prevent any negative feelings over going ahead with Utopia Planitia, as should picking a non-human male as replacement for Yamada Keiko if a competent one is available.
    Only doing 3 diplomatic pushes on affiliates because that seems like the level we can continue to sustain in normal years.. (Edit: Can only afford 2 this year after adding the tech team). The Orions are close enough to affiliate that we should go ahead and make them one (hopefully they get the quarterly rolls an affiliate gets if they reach that status with the first one?)
     
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    Just looking at it and tossing out ideas:

    Request funding to start Utopia Planitia Shipyards, 135pp (16 turns, gain new shipyard starting with 2 3m t berths, 2 1m t berths, immediate activation of a Light Cruiser research team)
    Request new Shipyard in orbit around Andor, 30pp (10 turns, gain new shipyard starting with one 2.5m t berth)
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    We can afford both to get Utopia Planeiia out of the way (With good Light Cruiser team!) and finish the set of shipyards, fullfilling our promise and helping to set up for our fleet expansion.
    Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy)
    Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy)
    Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy)
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    Starting a sustained push towards Amarki and Betazed membership, and tipping the Orions over into Affiliates.

    Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 30pp
    (Doctrine)
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    Pick up that doctrine team
    Request Academy Expansion, 20pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
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    We've been needing to do this for a while anyways, and since we'll be expanding hte fleet we may even need to hit this twice.

    That's all still only 245, points left over!
     
    @OneirosTheWriter:
    Can we take focused diplomacy (or Academy Expansion) multiple times?
    Also, can we new-build Centaur/Miranda/Constellation refits?
     
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    @Nix Dammit, how did you get that so fast? That's about everything I was gonna put!

    *grumble Grumble*

    Though, drop the catians and one of the academy expansions to pick up that doctrine tech team reward and you have my vote

    Actually, I'll just nick you plan and do the changes I want :p

    [X]Building the Peace
    -Shipyard Expansions:
    --Request new Shipyard in orbit around Andor, 27pp (10 turns, gain new shipyard starting with one 2.5m t berth)
    --Request Excelsior berth at 40 Eridiani, 27pp (6 turns, gain new 3m t berth)
    --Request funding to start Utopia Planitia Shipyards, 122pp (16 turns, gain new shipyard starting with 2 3m t berths, 2 1m t berths, immediate activation of a Light Cruiser research team)
    -Request Ongoing Budget increase 25pp (Roll for success)
    -Request Academy Expansion, 20pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
    -Request focused Diplomacy on Orions, 10pp
    -Request focused Diplomacy on Amarki, 10pp
    -Request focused Diplomacy on Betazoids, 10pp
    -Request new Doctrine Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 30pp

    Total cost is 281, leaving some left over

    Ninja'd by Nix
     
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    Given the sheer amount of PP we have and how long it will take to finish.. I'm going to press the issue in getting it started. Better now then later.
    135
    And the academy expansion.
    +20=155
    That leaves 140 pp to spend, which is still a rediculious amount
     
    Now is definitely the time to spend a shitload of political will massively expanding shipyards. It's the main bottleneck through which everything else has to go. I'd rather have no cash and a ton of shipyards when we need them than be flush with cash and officers but be unable to get them the ships they need.
    • x2 Request expansion of San Francisco Fleet Yards, 15pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times]
    • Request expansion of 40 Eridani A Shipyards, 20pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times]
    • Request Excelsior berth at a shipyard, 30pp (6 turns, gain new 3m t berth)
    • Request new Shipyard in orbit around Andor, 30pp (10 turns, gain new shipyard starting with one 2.5m t berth)
    • Request funding to start Utopia Planitia Shipyards, 135pp (16 turns, gain new shipyard starting with 2 3m t berths, 2 1m t berths, immediate activation of a Light Cruiser research team)
    • Request Academy Expansion, 20pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
    That'll run 265pp but the benefits will be huge all around. Utopia Planitia will be a gift that keeps on giving, Andorian shipyards means spreading our economy out and making up a bit for the human bias, the Excelsiors have more than proved their worth. The expansion of the Academy will give us officers for all the new ships we'll be able to have coming down the pipe if we need to suddenly blow our budget expanding.

    Let's take advantage of our windfall for everything it'll get us in terms of infastructure. This could stand to be a huge jump in Starfleet capabilities. We'll need that expansion to properly serve and protect all the new affiliates and such anyway; we don't need to accelerate that process until we can expand to meet them anyway.
     
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    tryrar said:
    @Nix Dammit, how did you get that so fast? That's about everything I was gonna put!

    *grumble Grumble*

    Though, drop the catians and one of the academy expansions to pick up that doctrine tech team reward and you have my vote
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    Not ruling that out, what do others think? Keep in mind we are already getting a new tech team with UP.
     
    [X] Aftermath of War [289pp]
    -[x] Request New Shipyard in Orbit around Andor [27pp]
    -[x] Request 3Mt Berth at Andorian Shipyard [27pp]
    -[x] Request 3Mt Berth at Tellar Prime Shipyard [27pp]
    -[x] Request Funding to Start Utopia Planetia Shipyards [122pp]
    -[x] Request Academy Expansion [10pp]
    -[x] Request Focused Diplomacy on the <Orions> [10pp]
    -[x] Request New Starbase in RBZ [20pp]
    -[x] Request New Starbase in KBZ [30pp]
    -[x] Request New Tech Team [Doctrine] to be added to our Design Bureau [30pp]


    I'd like to get a Starbase into each Border Zone. Largely so that we're less concerned about entities sneaking through and/or around, but also to give that Firebase for our ships there to retreat to if needed.
     
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    Yea, I agree on grabbing that Doctrine team AKuz's reward made available.
     
    Nix said:
    Not ruling that out, what do others think? Keep in mind we are already getting a new tech team with UP.
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    True, but Doctrine Teams do a very different thing than Ship Design teams do, and with how long they take to show results, getting started ASAP is important.

    Plus, I'd like to figure out a way to squeeze the Constellation Refit in to a plan somewhere. It's a solid boost to their capabilities, and we do have seven of them.

    The refit on the Centaur seems weird to have as an option, the class is only 3 years old at this point!
     
    open_sketchbook said:
    • x2 Request expansion of San Francisco Fleet Yards, 15pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times]
    • Request expansion of 40 Eridani A Shipyards, 20pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times]
    • Request Excelsior berth at a shipyard, 30pp (6 turns, gain new 3m t berth)
    • Request new Shipyard in orbit around Andor, 30pp (10 turns, gain new shipyard starting with one 2.5m t berth)
    • Request funding to start Utopia Planitia Shipyards, 135pp (16 turns, gain new shipyard starting with 2 3m t berths, 2 1m t berths, immediate activation of a Light Cruiser research team)
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    1 m t berths are not going to be hugely useful going forward, the next light cruiser is probably going to be too big for them, the 2.3 m t berths are going to be the ones for light cruisers (and can also serve escorts) in the next generation, only the 3m t ones for explorers. Also people voiced concerns about UP raising resentment and suspicion of rascism, expanding the SF shipyards at the same time is only going to fuel that more.

    EDIT: Dropped the second (disallowed) academy expansion and the Caitians, added doctrine tech team.
     
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